duck bastard
[kickvic] alright, last plurk, plus info dump
duck bastard
since mike dunford's livetweet of the dismissals was just put up
duck bastard
i need to update the info dump so much
Maidstrong
duck bastard
everyone can celebrate iswv and vic eating shit
https://images.plurk.com/6zf7o6gyJbajWtn3GzTNIS.png
Doctor Ansem
DʀᴀɢɴHᴏᴍᴇᴏᴘᴀᴛʜʏ
For the record: Vic's claims were dismissed with prejudice
✰✰𝕾𝖙𝖆𝖗𝖑𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙✰✰
ℓα∂у уєииєfєя
Rizu
A definition with examples for those curious about what Dismissed with Prejudice means. If you don't want to click, the short of it is Vic CANNOT file for this lawsuit again
ℓα∂у уєииєfєя
Also, thank you so much for putting these up. We really appreciate it!
Guardian Bear J
It's not rare that something is Dismissed with prejudice... but when it happens, it means they fucked up royally. XD
Guardian Bear J
As in "The court sees through your bullshit, don't come here with this again."
nɑnɑmin
does that also preclude appeals? or just him starting over with a new claim?
Guardian Bear J
They can appeal, but generally, it won't make a difference.
DʀᴀɢɴHᴏᴍᴇᴏᴘᴀᴛʜʏ
Appeals are their own thing
DʀᴀɢɴHᴏᴍᴇᴏᴘᴀᴛʜʏ
The problem for him is
DʀᴀɢɴHᴏᴍᴇᴏᴘᴀᴛʜʏ
He had 0 actual evidence
Guardian Bear J
Appeals are not the end-all, be all that the media likes to claim they are.
DʀᴀɢɴHᴏᴍᴇᴏᴘᴀᴛʜʏ
And he can't introduce new evidence in an appeal
Guardian Bear J
Actual appeals going through tend to be the result of judicial fuck-ups... or politics.
nɑnɑmin
yeah. I've been following along. I just wasn't entirely certain on how far dismissed with prejudice reached.
Guardian Bear J
There's not any politics here that will save Vic's sorry ass.
Rama
Also today, Ty Beard claimed on twitter that Greg Doucette lied about how much the court transcript from the TCPA hearing cost, was shot down immediately with screenshots of the transcript listing the price, and backpedaled like ten minutes later
Rama
I made a twitter account for the sole purpose of calling him on his bullshit
DʀᴀɢɴHᴏᴍᴇᴏᴘᴀᴛʜʏ
Vic now has to decide if he wants to appeal or cut his losses
Rama
I'm new to twitter, but I think this is how to link it
Ty Beard on Twitter
Rama
Scroll up to see the first tweet I guess
คςєภคгtєς๏
Ken
Oh wow. Watching the stans lose their shit is gonna be fun.
HIKIKOMORTIS
Oh man, Vic and his cronies got buried
00000000
Nick is apparently tweeting as his intern again, or at least the account he was using last time he did that is active again.
00000000
Well. "Intern."
𝒋𝒖𝒊𝒄𝒚!
i'm so glad he got smacked
𝕿𝖆𝖈𝖔𝖛𝖆𝖓𝖎𝖆
00000000
(Hopefully he doesn't have actual interns.)
00000000
Rizu
I was just about to link thatrofl
00000000
(For those who don't want to click on that, it's a tweet that just reads "Halftime.";-)
Poinsettia 🌺
Rizu
but seriously dude needs to cut his losses and go back to estate law
Poinsettia 🌺
Eat shiiiiiiiit VicTeam
00000000
...You know what, not even going to complain about the surprise wink emote this time.
𝖘𝖎𝖑𝖛𝖊𝖗 𝖘𝖕𝖎𝖉𝖊𝖗
I just sincerely hope this means Vic, Nick and Ty can finally fuck off and leave Moncia alone.
Rizu
okay reading the replies on that Ty tweet, at least one of the vicstans is like "no, this is a loss, stop"
duck bastard
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGDay03WwAM-O48?format=jpg&name=small
Rizu
Rizu
(it's funny I promise it's worth the click, especially for fans of Monty Python)
Azure ☪ Moon
TIS BUT A FLESH WOUND
HurricaneChris
What are you going to do, bleed on me?
Rizu
I've counted at least 4 stans going "no stop"
Rizu
I think more of them are getting to the acceptance stage
Rizu
(and by stans I mean "tweets obviously in support of vic but seeing how ludicrous continuing from here is";-)
Rizu
... WHY
Rizu
minus the emote lol
ShaynaIsHere
/replurks gladly
Cookie Politics
man, I'm not even in law and I know notes in court are written/typed in crazy shorthand
Cookie Politics
how the fuck does Ty not understand that transcribing that takes a lot of work?
lucineblue
estate lawyer
Rizu
^this
duck bastard
as someone who works alongside the court and it's clerks, like... yeah that shit starts adding up!
duck bastard
we charge people not only by pages, but by year
duck bastard
which can be a lot when it's only a few pages of a filing
duck bastard
....and must have been atrocious for a transcript
duck bastard
especially one that covered as much time as the hearing did
Cookie Politics
for those curious, here's an example of written shorthand used in courts
https://imgs.plurk.com/QwC/Dds/fYvJoZvghPG5xf6bkbr3tAGKc3Y_lg.jpg
lucineblue
and all the hmming and hawing
Rizu
... that is terrifying
soap.
okay some of those seem like more effort than the original letter lmf
Cookie Politics
and this is the keyboard if you're typing notes
https://imgs.plurk.com/QwC/Kwq/CM6NvMfsPUusggmTIBkarVTMpVK_lg.png
Cookie Politics
notice the number of keys
Cookie Politics
you ain't taking the raw documents typed on this thing and sending them to the public to read
Rizu
... wow. you have to learn a whole new typing system to transcribe in courts
Rizu
that's kinda intimidating
inadequate tits
doppelbanger
...huh, you guys
doppelbanger
i live in mn so i thought i'd look him up to see if there's been any coverage by the local lawyer community and https://images.plurk.com/7FApTsCtqsNUXULx4E1o67.png
Doctor Ansem
IT EXPIRED AGAIN
Rizu
oh good so unless he tries to renew he's no longer a lawyer
Doctor Ansem
doppelbanger
this is publicly available information just so's ya know
Nox
Realistically theres a part of me that's saying "theres a good chance they're as slow to update as any other database" but
Nox
I really hope it's just a case of Nick Fucked Up
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
BWAHAHHA
Cookie Politics
even if it is just a slow database, it's funny as hell
𝑑𝑖𝑎𝑚𝑜𝑛𝑑 𝑑𝑢𝑠𝑡
replying to get notifs lol
'Sail
tube_slinger
I'm looking forward to the fees and sanctions hearing
tube_slinger
as well as Team Vic realizing that appealing isn't going to lead them to the magical victory they were promised
sᴡᴀɢᴡᴀɢᴏɴ
ALEX NO
i cannot wait for this hearing.
ALEX NO
i hope it's like soon as fuck.
𝑑𝑖𝑎𝑚𝑜𝑛𝑑 𝑑𝑢𝑠𝑡
lol he can't appeal when he's too broke
A Grinning DM
Oh my god the Stans saying that this was Ty’s plan all along like this is some sort of 8 dimensional chess game.
Winter❄️Blade🗡️
his plan? LOL... bets on how long it'll take before they start saying Ty was in on the conspiracy against Vic?
DʀᴀɢɴHᴏᴍᴇᴏᴘᴀᴛʜʏ
A Grinning DM : There was one implying that the Judge's plan is to get this overturned and. IDK?????
tube_slinger
amazing
Nox
Not sure if this'll work but
War on Christmas Veteran on Twitter
Nox
I really, really wanna know what Slender here thinks "dismissed with prejudice" means
Uncontrollable
It means "I have read something inapplicable or misapplied something"
Alice
between Nick's Twitter account being suspended and the full dismissal of all charges with prejudice, I've got the doofiest grin on my face right now
Alice
I wonder if any of those idiots that thought it'd be smart to go threaten and harass the judge are regretting it now
Uncontrollable
Of course not.
Uncontrollable
They think they didn't harass ENOUGH.
Nox
I mean it did get them mediation to fuck up
Uncontrollable
If they'd just been LOUDER and more VOCAL everyone would realize what a BAD JUDGE HE IS
tube_slinger
yeaaah, I can't see them having that much capacity for self-reflection
HIKIKOMORTIS
I just resent that idiots like that can give all fans a bad name to the outside world.
HIKIKOMORTIS
Just like there are still people who think all anime is porn.
Alice
yeah, sadly I agree that they likely didn't learn a damn thing
Alice
but it would be nice if at least one of them had a "maybe I was a dumbass" epiphany. /sigh
Nox
Even the ones that have accepted this is a loss are still convinced Vic is just being unfairly demonized, so...
Nox
wouldn't put money on it
duck bastard
Rama
I'm glad to see that my layman's assessment of the case was correct in some detail, too
Rama
The dismissal amounts to "Ty didn't present any useful evidence", which was basically what I got out of everything so far.
Nox
And what useful evidence he did manage to accidentally submit, he failed to correctly argue it
Nox
(and even that was very flimsy, things like "look I have proof they talked" )
Nox
(or worse, it was utterly devastating to his own case)
Ashabel
Haven't seen this mentioned, but.
Ashabel
Ashabel
Media is starting to report on it.
Rama
Rama
Ty Beard
Hyatt
against my better judgment I checked out Ty's tweet accusing Greg of lying about the cost of the transcript. amazing how many Vic and legal team supporters accuse Greg of grifting, when he raised far less money that Nick and Ty and broke down where the money raised went
Beans
Beans
imagine seeing all of this go down and you still think you're the one in the right and Vic is being treated unfairly
Kung Fu Chef
Good lord
Nox
Nox
I'm not a lawyer and even I found enough problems in that hot take that I just wanted to scream
Rama
I mean if you want to play that game, TY NEVER FUCKING ESTABLISHED DAMAGES
Rama
Also I guarantee this person is an ancap.
DʀᴀɢɴHᴏᴍᴇᴏᴘᴀᴛʜʏ
I commented that lol
Nox
I did get that vibe. Brought on flashbacks to one that was on a forum site I was at for a while a few years back. None of us were surprised when the dumbass got himself arrested
DʀᴀɢɴHᴏᴍᴇᴏᴘᴀᴛʜʏ
"Ty never proved any damages"
lucineblue
ancap?
Doctor Ansem
Anarchocapitalist
คςєภคгtєς๏
i think i've also seen ancap as referring to anti-capitalists, but.
Doctor Ansem
My experience is with one particularly deluded one who hated taxes and thought things could be enforced with nonagression pacts
Rama
Anarcho-capitalist yeah
Rama
Government minimalist which thinks any government protection of rights is unnecessary except, for some reason, property rights.
Doctor Ansem
Yep.
คςєภคгtєς๏
this is hilarious to me because when i looked it up when i first heard it somehow i found that it meant anti-captialist, which is the exact opposite of anarcho-capitalists, basically. XD
00000000
Ty is going to be on Nick's show tonight, apparently. (That's Nick's "intern's" account.)
Nox
Wycked Syxx on Twitter
I'll actually file this one away in the category labeled "Things that DON'T make me go 'hmmmm....'" tyvm
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
things that make me go hahahahahaha
Doctor Ansem
Things that make me point and laugh
NᴇᴡYᴇᴀʀ'sEᴇᴠᴇᴇ
the iswv take on this is giving me a killer headache...
Hyatt
it makes a little more sense when you remember that they tend towards the alt right who are already out of touch with reality
CChuuni
(thinking) so they think Nick and Ty conned them into giving Jamie, Monica, and Funi more money?
CChuuni
I mean...
CChuuni
they're right but I'm pretty sure it wasn't intentional
NᴇᴡYᴇᴀʀ'sEᴇᴠᴇᴇ
It makes a little more sense that way, but is absolutely still headache inducing.
Hyatt
but at least reality is working and not bending to their messed up view of it! win!
NᴇᴡYᴇᴀʀ'sEᴇᴠᴇᴇ
True!
Nox
Wonder if you could start a GFM for the defendants at this point and pitch any donation as a way to "OWN THE LIBS"
Nox
Just see how many of these fuck goblins would blindly throw money at it without a second thought.
CChuuni
pretty much
CChuuni
I mean that's exactly what the "build the wall" nonsense was
CChuuni
and that was by a KNOWN grifter
Poinsettia 🌺
https://images.plurk.com/2mL1FAZYVZTOCGjvDJyPBM.png ISWV is taking it well
Poinsettia 🌺
S u p r e m e C o u r t
lucineblue
oh god
lucineblue
these people need therapy...
Rᴏʟʟɪɴɢ sᴛᴀʀ ★
w h e e z e s
Nox
The Supreme Court- even the state-level one- is absolutely never touching this thing
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
wow that comeback
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
fucking rip
Nox
I mean Kavanaugh might push for it at the national level since he's also a documented sexual predator but I'm pretty sure the other 8 justices would just get the spray bottle
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
i don't want to live in the timeline where kavanaugh's also a confirmed unwashed weeb
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
/shitposting
Nox
Oh, also Lemoine's taken his Twitter account off protected status just to publicly victory lap in the aftermath of this
Nox
Calliente
Calliente
This kills me
00000000
ℓα∂у уєииєfєя
go тo вread
oh god just take the L
go тo вread
you lost...
Hyatt
not until he's squeezed all the money he can out of Vic's cult
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
Asher Langton on Twitter
wow there is a lot to unpack here
lucineblue
that's what it really comes down to for a lot of these guys, isn't it?
lucineblue
"What if I fuck up and get called a rapist?"
lucineblue
this is why having sex ed focusing on consent and what it means, is important~!
Doctor Ansem
"Taking his balls and going home"
Nox
uuuugh...I've got rum, I've got nothing of importance to do tomorrow...do I really wanna chance it and try to watch Screech's livestream in two hours to see how he tries spinning this
lucineblue
...
lucineblue
I'll draw you art if you do.
lucineblue
if you live plurk it for us to see >o>
Nox
Part of me already died a little noticing he categorizes his videos as "educational" so what difference is a liver going to make I guess
Doctor Ansem
Look at it this way
Doctor Ansem
Your liver will be in better shape than his
Alice
I agree about the sex ed issue. If they were taught about consent, it'd be better for everyone, including them.
Nox
okay best quip about this so far goes to someone in the chat
Nox
"You don't understand! This is the second best outcome they could have hoped for!"
Alice
Like it or not, it's just not acceptable to forcefully grab or kiss someone without their consent. This shouldn't be hard for them to grasp and yet
'Sail
Mike S on Twitter

"He sounds hot. Like, 200 degrees Incelsius."
'Sail
(lmao)
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
holy fuck
Nox
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
INCELSIUS
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGEAcivXUAcGn7n.jpg also
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
https://imgs.plurk.com/QwC/JDD/GodMwMo1zkw9WS7In3UOgX7purG_lg.jpg
Nox
I saw that, apparently they clarified later they weren't a native english speaker
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
oof
Nox
ymmv on whether that excuse passes muster, since they clearly got one definition of prejudice right and google is a short url away, but w/e
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
I do not think I would commentate on any legal matters not in my first language tbh
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
not when legal definitions can mean totally different things than lay definitions
Alice
yeah, second language or not, it wasn't a wise choice
NᴇᴡYᴇᴀʀ'sEᴇᴠᴇᴇ
That all said, googling "dismissed with prejudice" brings up exactly what it means at the top of the page.
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
yeah so
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
no pass
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
google is free, etc
Alice
it honestly sounds like they were running their mouth without knowing what they were talking about and tried to use a second language as a backpedal and excuse
Ri
. . . so all i saw was DWP and that makes me happy.
Ri
DWOP is the bad one.
Ri
i'm way too familiar with DWOP thanks to work. x_x
Alice
personally, I make it a practice to google anything I'm not completely sure on before opening my mouth in a discussion
lucineblue
DWOP?
Ri
dismissed without prejudice.
Ri
DWP = good for accused, bad for accuser. DWOP = good for the accuser, may not be so good for the accused.
Ri
at work, dwop means it's getting kicked back for a rewrite and it's a pain in the ass for us because more paperwork
lucineblue
ugh
Ri
(i work in a prison, so neither is actually a good thing for us when the hearing examiner does his thing. we prefer straight up guilty.)
Nox
https://images.plurk.com/1U2TWb6EZknxo5YJJdbwau.png
This is...definitely a unique conspiracy theory, I'll give them that
lucineblue
//holds head
Alice
oh, for fuck's sake
Alice
I genuinely don't blame Chupp for questioning if they even understand what reality they're in
Calliente
Oh no, the men who defend pedophiles and sexual predators, and fear that someday they themselves might be at risk of being accused of things that absolutely happened one day by their victims, are losing faith in dating and removing themselves from the dating pool!
Calliente
Whatever shall we do
Calliente
What if they, too, one day bring a frivolous lawsuit with no evidence against people who said things about them and a judge doesn't let them sue???
Calliente
(That part is the funniest bit for me, Vic isn't even a victim here because HE WASN'T THE DEFENDANT so this ruling isn't even about the rape accusations that particular incel is so distressed about? It's literally just the judge saying "yeah these people did not conspire to make your already terrible reputation worse or cost you work opportunities" )
Calliente
("Pay their court fees, plus whatever sanctions I deem fit, for making these idiot accusations you had no proof for and then trying to sue them based on that zero evidence you had and wasting literally everyone's time and money" )
Calliente
So like...this guy is in 0% more danger of being accused of rape by women than he was before, this ruling is only precedent if he wants to sue people who accuse him of it with zero evidence that their claims aren't true
Calliente
But "panicking that I'll be accused of rape if I have anything to do with women at all" was the look he decided to wear today, so that's sure a thing
Alice
yeah, also that whole rant was just seeping in misogyny
Alice
whatever will women do without some misogynistic asshat trying to fuck them
Alice
besides potentially date someone who actually respects them as human beings
Alice
I also love how he claims not to be objectifying women while objectifying women
Nox
https://images.plurk.com/2H2scadMTtRH4hH6ZA5nEn.png
yet another interesting take from the ISWV crowd.
Alice
wow, way for them to bring up an unrelated issue in to muddy the waters as if their other bullshit wasn't already doing the job
pastel ranma
Wow just this melt down from them
Alice
not too long ago, these chucklefucks were all about honoring the judge's ruling when they thought he'd side with Vic
Nox
They're also going on about how Chupp deleted his facebook LIKE A COWARD!!!! even though the dude hadn't accessed it since like 2011
Alice
regardless of the outcome, they'd let it go at that
pastel ranma
and it's not cowardly to not want to be harassed online as what's essentially a civilian. He's not a celebrity like Vic.
Alice
yeah, seriously
Nox
If anything it's better for them that he did, considering I'm pretty sure there's legal ramifications for threatening a judge
Nox
(which they most certainly do not understand)
Alice
if he's not using it anyway and receiving death threats from frothing fanatics, nuking the account is a logical decision
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