Not looking forward to all the “your stuff isn’t working!!!1one” from the free Legacy library avatar users. (Of course first I have to fix everything from the last six months when their scripts created appliers that didnt work for anyone... other than me)

Alaska I am confused, because they cannot use appliers at all on the library, bom layers only...is that what you mean that they will think its not working because their appliers dont work?

SasyScarborough : there are a few "fun" "quirks" to those free legacy bodies. the location of the nails makes both skins and alpha masks problematic. they also screw with the head sliders for no apparent reason other than that they can, so they are just a headache waiting to happen for all head and shape makers. and none of this is presented to the user as

being an issue built into the bodies, it's all thrown at new users as is.

(and i haven't done more than try one on for 5 minutes, so there are no doubt more "quirks" i haven't found yet that will be biting people in the ass)

some day i'll have to find out what priority the hand and wrist animations that cannot be stopped are. but for BoM, the nails specifically are a bit of a nightmare- it's in a commonly bled into area for alpha masks, anything around the waist (shirts etc, partially even bras), anything around the lower legs (pants, socks, stockings, etc). there are no fixer

nails included with the kit for skins that don't have them (any not specifically made for them) or for fixing nails after you've worn a BoM shirt, and alpha masks will make your fingernails and toenails disappear for mysterious to the end user reasons.

SasyScarborough : Yes, I sell stuff labelled as "Legacy compatible" and with Legacy appliers that will not work on the free body, but don't think it's realistic to relabel. New users will need that learning curve of what the library avatar can actually support versus the paid, but it's all just labelled "Legacy" :| And Allegory detailed the nail polish pains...

...which you might find too if you try to support them with Flair. (I've opted out for now)

true, there is also the whole all the things that they don't do, on top of all the things they do differently!

Allegory : Alaska : I brought it up to the lindens & Philip at the last meeting because it was obvious that the QA team had no idea how SL uses the SLUV , watermarks from people protecting their skins and creating alphas straight across front and back will hide the nails, I also reported the chin issues to meshbody, they said they will fix it.

I was just checking what specifically, but makes perfect sense that they didn't come up with a new format, and absolutely who wants to go double labeling, it is going to be fun for sure

apparently while the meeting was streaming people didn't know what I meant, but I didn't see Gogo in discord saying show pictures lol

they did say they will look into it, Cosmic Linden did, I guess she is part of Steeltoes crew on that

SasyScarborough : while the chin is most obvious, it's doing something weird with entire heads- at least the female body looks like it's pulling the entire head, but not eyes, down a little. (i don't mess with overriding bones currently, so i'm not sure how they even managed to do it, in truth)

Allegory : they did say it was a mistake, that they were fixing it, but no idea how long it would take LL to replace it in the library, but also seemed like Cosmic didn't know about that either, and someone at the meeting was like 'it fits the lelutka heads just fine' even though I had said other heads etc lol was a funny moment for sure, but their QA is ??

it took me minutes to not only see an issue, but guess where the nails were put, and love that people have already released workarounds for it, because if they think that people are going to upgrade for that they have another think coming lol

it definitely does it to the library lelutka heads- it's not totally content breaking BUT it's going to make for major confusion for anyone switching to the full version of the body (or any other body) when they see something subtly to not subtly different for their head shape.

Alaska : I got your Bare lingerie last, and that applier worked for my Legacy body! It doesn't save to the Legacy hud though, and when I click your applier now, it tells me: [06:21] bottom: Applying Textures...
[06:21] bottom: Error 400 - Server error.
Server registration failed, using last known textures
[06:21] bottom: Applier finished.

The Clara bodysuit works.

I just fixed Bare two days ago... 𝗌𝗂𝗌𝖼𝗁 : are you saying it still has problems? Even with redelivery? Supporting Legacy has been challenging.

Alaska : No no no, it was the original applier, I didn't get a redelivery so far!

My alt got a “license not found” error with it originally when I finally tested it on another av so not even the error messages are consistent let me know if redelivery works if you get a chance! And I’m aware Sophie socks also have issues, updating them next.

Just got the redeliveries and they all work great!

𝗌𝗂𝗌𝖼𝗁 Thank you for confirming!