OhCecilia
I'd love it if people used the whole "if the heart is beating, it is a life and should live" argument to outlaw eating meat. Because last I checked, both animals and zygotes have about the same level of self-awareness. Actually, zygotes have less self-awareness and less personality.
Star Just Star
A zygote walked into a bar......
Amber
also wasn't there something about how the ultrasound machine fakes the heartbeat anyway? Like at what point is it a heartbeat if it's faked by a machine? (for human fetuses)
Fearyfox(Reyn)
IIRC at 6 weeks, there is NO heart yet. Its not developed enough.
OhCecilia
Amber : I didn't know until you said something and I googled and found this
Is a 'fetal heartbeat' really a heartbeat at 6 weeks...
(((Cajsa)))
Heart cells will beat in a petri.dish
OhCecilia
(((Cajsa))) : I can't believe I'm only learning this at 44. It makes the heartbeat bill stuff even more ridiculous.
Amber
I only learned this recently too on Twitter, tbh
ღChrista Echosღ
what about those births that can cause harm to the mother. My sister had this happen to her, her baby died in utero and she had to have it aborted.
OhCecilia
ღChrista Echosღ : they're already going after women who miscarry and women have already died because they were refused abortions to save their lives
Amber
a California DA prosecuted two women for stillbirth/miscarriages because he said their drug use led to the death of their fetuses. He was tossed out but one of those women spent 16 months in jail.
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