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i miss the days where people adhered to "don't like, don't read"
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me as a teenager definitely was out there reading things i was probably not old or mature enough to read, despite the warnings put into place
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but i can recognize that it was my fault, that i was old enough to know better, instead of blaming the author or artist for writing or drawing it.
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today i came across something that was talking about how so many people use writing and art to process trauma and how its ugly and of course you had teenagers in the comments like
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"is this a proshipper thing?" or "how is this different than fetishizing it?"
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often it is creators that are bipoc or queer that are the most harshly criticized
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the online community has become very ...strange
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putting work out there with topics that are traumatic or uncomfortable is not endorsement -- and you are not obligated to engage with these things if they upset you.
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I will never understand how the simple concept of "if you don't like it, don't engage with it" seemingly has become a rarity rather than commonplace
sugah
so long as it's tagged appropriately for people to avoid it; we're good
sugah
imo
sugah
but more people these days LOOK for stuff to actively antagonize ?
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thats just it, though. people will still seek out things that are tagged and then attack the creator for it.
cricketussy
it's so bizarre
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this boyfriend dungeon game where the devs put up a content warning for certain aspects of the game that might be triggering to some, and people are still saying that it's not enough, that they want those elements removed all together
cricketussy
I'm playing and so far the warning put up is entirely sufficient, jesus christ people
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not every game has to work for everyone and thats fine
cricketussy
Also poking around the thing you linked, this comment is such a good comparison:
cricketussy
Stories are like scary houses imho:
You can leave at any time, but the workers dressed as murderers cannot, that's why you're not supposed to hit them. They just wanna give you a cool experience, even if it's negative. Without that understanding, no one can tell good stories.
cricketussy
also I would like to set these people complaining on playing some dating sims I've played that had neither warnings nor IC acknowledgement of things being creepy
cricketussy
The character I'm sure people are complaining about has been pretty explicitly acknowledged as a creepy jerk by where I'm at in the game, which really isn't that far in
cricketussy
I just hate how when I was discouraged out of trying to write professionally years ago, it was all on the order of "what I like will probably be rejected/not make money" and now every time I think about going back to it, I realised it's escalated to "anything I publish might result in death threats"
cricketussy
like a decade ago when I was legit thinking about trying to be a published writer, that was not a thing that even occurred to me but now?
juliette lives
cricketussy : honestly it's not a big deal if you just don't put yourself on social media, but it sucks bc that's how you promote books
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remember when people just stayed in their lane and didn't hateread/obsess over the ships they dislike
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and "squick" was a thing well used
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bring back the 2000s era
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i remember before really like late 2008 or 2009 the most Diskhorse i saw (outside of "is twilight mormon propaganda?") was how liking spuffy was being pro rape
juliette lives
wicker stan
I honestly think itโ€™s stemming from people being aware of predators/groomers in fandom spaces and trying to lay down some kind of rules to identify them but in practice it just really doesnโ€™t work that simply.
wicker stan
Itโ€™s a frightening thing to be aware of and not really able to do anything about.
wicker stan
And speaking from experience, the woman who targeted me never wrote anything โ€˜traditionally objectionable'
wicker stan
These 'rules' just do not work or hold up in practice, predators will be predators in whatever space you try to create :/ but thatโ€™s not a fun or uplifting message and thereโ€™s no way to sell it.
StupidSexyVโš der
I mean it's that. But it's also a HUGE extension of purity culture and helicopter parenting - anything not moral is BAD and BAD IS EVIL and these children are now teenagers and have never had agency over anything because they are my babies and have no idea that other people aren't going to overly mollycoddle them like their parents do
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