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Corpus Hermeticum讀書筆記

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Persona 系列召喚人格面具時喊的Thou art I, and I am thou 居然是真的
是魔法師召喚赫米斯通訊時的儀式之一

Hermetica: The Ancient Greek and Latin Writings whic...
目前看的是這個版本, 免費的.很難讀但是考究跟解說都很足.

hermetica corpushermeticum 神秘學
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赫米斯文集實在是太散亂了 比道德經易經還難懂
在希臘時期受柏拉圖影響就已經失去了很多埃及時期的精髓不說
連希臘時期都要為埃及原文的原意做補充
搞得現在一個兩三頁的段落有30頁的註解
真的是跟道德經有得拼
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更糟糕的是我們現在能獲得的只有西元2世紀的希臘文版本
而這個二世紀的希臘文版本是試圖保留距之不知道多少年的埃及煉金術(倒)
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然後有人改寫了好讀版
好讀版完全沒有保留希臘的精髓到令人生氣
根本是創作文
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Hermetica在很多地方保留了希臘人的尿性
就是以對話與雙人辯證為主
沒有保留這個雙人辯證形式就沒辦法保留希臘人的思維模式了
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那個年代的思考主要還是靠對話辯證
中國有子曰 印度有佛說 希臘好歹有阿基里斯跟烏龜賽跑
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對於什麼都要思想作為證據的希臘人如此玷污埃及文化
嗯好吧⋯⋯反正也沒有其他選擇
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總之西洋三大魔法-煉金術通靈術占星術的基石就這本書了
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Hermetica的主旨與東方煉金術完全相同
去除人類身上屬土的部分, 純化屬靈的部分 揚升或者回到源頭
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神是心智 靠著話語創造四大元素成為萬物
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God has three sons , viz . the Logos , the Demiurgus - Nous , and the Anthropos
神有三個兒子. Logos, Demiurgus-nous, 以及人類
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這部分跟一之法則所說的人在第三次元非常相似
一個兒子創造了第一次元(礦物), 二兒子創造第二次元(生物),三兒子創造有著與造物主同樣心智的生物(人類)
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也就是一之法則所說的三個維度
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人愛上了自然世界 屬靈與屬土的結合產生活著的人類
這跟佛教天人愛上色慾界的食物變重回不去有點像
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Hermetica非常重心智辯論
得知道/神為何的方式也是思考為主
因為受柏拉圖思維影響太深
搞得玄學變得很二元對立
元兇就在此
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屬神即善 非神即惡 不屬肉體即屬靈
凡是會毀壞的即屬土 凡會腐化毀壞的事物皆為惡不屬靈
不生不滅即屬靈
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可以看出基督教對神全知全能三位一體唯一不二純粹完美的概念很大一部分受hermetica影響
但沒有猶太教那套伊甸園巴別塔原罪那套
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阿拉伯那邊的支線叫Sufism
Sufism, Gnosticism 跟佛教基本上目的根本一模一樣 手法跟看法也差不多
就是要移除小我 破除帷幕 與神合一
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煉金術真的每個文化都有分支
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We have to rise above all that is corporeal , and make our way up to the Good . And to do this , we must put forth all our strength . It is not easy ; for the things that attract us here below are visible , and the Good is invisible .
這基本上跟佛教說要脫離色欲界一樣
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the worshipper's denial that he is other than God ( üs årlos öv ; ) is in accordance with the distinctive character of Egyptian religion .

基本上埃及人認為萬物皆道 而你不可能是神之外的其他東西, 就跟道德經沒兩樣了
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It is impossible to choose out any one place , and say that God is there rather than elsewhere ; for God is himself the all - containing place ' .

神是允許一切存在的那個空間的概念也是從hermetic 來的, 或許可追溯至埃及
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比較hermetics 跟 Sufism 的共通處大概可拼湊出埃及煉金術的原本樣貌
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ως άλλος ών και συ γαρ ει 8 [ ε ] αν ώ . This is the typical utterance of mysticism ; ' I am Thou , and Thou art I. In the Greek mystery cults , the worshipper sought some kind and degree of union with the particular deity to whom his worship was addressed ;
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but among the Greeks , the abolition of the boundary - walls of separate personality was seldom spoken of in such emphatic and uncompromising terms .
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In Egypt , on the other hand , the Pyramid - texts of the VIth Dynasty( 2500 B.C. or earlier ) are full of phrases which show that by that time the primitive worshipper's sense of identification with the object of his worship ( or at least his assurance that he would , after death , be identified with his god )
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had already been stereotyped in traditional formulas of unknown antiquity;

and the same sort of language persists in Egyptian documents of all periods , ' down to the time when the magicians of the Roman age borrowed the phrase συ εγώ και εγώ σύ ? from reputable cults to use it for their own sordid purposes . The tone of this hymn is not Greek, but Egyptian
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所以Persona的Thou art I, and I am thou起源也是埃及. 因為基本上希臘對人格的界線並沒有那麽模糊 但這種人神合一與邊界的喪失在古埃及(第六王朝及之前)很常見
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題外話 無論 Hermetism Sufism 不二論 佛教等神秘學的主要認知都是”我即是道 道即是我”
不過走在路上宣稱”我就是神”通常會被當成瘋子丟石頭
於是可能造成了這樣的密教的地下化或著秘傳化

- 其實不是不想廣為流傳 而是這樣的說法即使在現在也很難成為主流
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目前所有文化的煉金術有可能都能追溯回埃及金字塔時代
至少聽說道家內丹與埃及金字塔煉金術是有很多相通處的
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The order of the heavenly bodies is perfect ; their movement is cyclic or recurrent , ( and accordingly , they are individually immortal . ) Terrestrial organ isms suffer dissolution ; but by this dissolution they are reabsorbed into the cosmic elements , which are immortal .
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這部分就是hermeticism 跟占星學的關聯了
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All things are good to begin with , being made by God ; but in the cosmic process , good turns to evil . The qualities of things are determined by the influence of the heavenly bodies ; and by that influence some things are made bad , and others good .
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基本上人會好壞壞是星盤害的 幹
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The bodies of these beings are composed of the cosmic elements ; their various qualities are imposed on them by the operation of the heavenly bodies ; and their life is breathed into them from the life - breath of the Kosmos .
人的性格是星象賦予的
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$ 2. εις τον άνθρωπον συνεπεισρέουσιν αλλήλαις . See 89 , where we are told that the sense and thought of all Goa ( including man ) are derived from the sense and thought of the Kosmos , and that they pass into the individual fõov from the atmosphere in the process of breathing . .
奇怪 又提到呼吸
天地之氣藉由呼吸與萬物交流
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All individual souls come into being by separation from the world - soul . The individual soul is incarnated on earth , first in an animal body of the lowest grade , and then in animal bodies of higher and higher grade , until it enters a human body .
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At that stage , it may begin to be divine ; and if it does , that will be its last earthly incarnation ; on its release from the human body , it will be changed into a daemon , and subsequently into an astral god . But if the soul , when it has entered a human body , continues to be bad , it is reincarnated in the bodies of beasts .
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也就是說Gnostics也相信輪迴
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Thus some that were once creeping things change into things that in the water dwell, the souls of water things change to earth-dwellers, those that live on the earth change into things with wings, and souls that live in air change into men, while human souls reach the first step of deathlessness changed into daimones.
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And so they circle to the choir of the Inerrant Gods; for of the Gods there are two choirs, the one Inerrant, and the other Errant. And this is the most perfect glory of the soul.
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But if a soul on entering in the body of a man persisteth in its vice, 1 it neither tasteth deathlessness nor shareth in the Good; but speeding back again it turns into the path that leads to creeping things. This is the sentence of the vicious soul.
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同樣段落不同翻譯 與佛教六道輪迴類似
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And the soul’s vice is ignorance.For that the soul who hath no knowledge of the things that are, or knowledge of their nature, or of Good, is blinded by the body’s passions and tossed about.
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This wretched soul, not knowing what she is becomes the slave of bodies of strange form in sorry plight, bearing the body as a load; not as the ruler,but the ruled.This [ignorance] is the soul’s vice.
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基本上輸給身體慾望即為惡
這真的非常宗教觀
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也非常佛教
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The Divine Pymander - Google Search
基本上這本書也是Corpus Hermeticum
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Hermetica is a category of literature dating from Late Antiquity that purports to contain secret wisdom, generally attributed to Hermes Trismegistus, "thrice-great Hermes", who is a syncretism of the Greek god Hermes and the Egyptian deity Thoth.
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A collection of several such Greek texts from the 2nd and 3rd centuries, remnants of a more extensive previous literature, were compiled into a Corpus Hermeticum by Italian scholars during the Renaissance, notably by Marsilio Ficino, whose Latin translation went through eight incunable editions before 1500, and a further twenty-two by 1641.
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John Everard's historically important 1650 translation into English of the Corpus Hermeticum, entitled The Divine Pymander.
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連英翻都很古老⋯⋯
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The Hermetist compares the Kosmos to a human head . The ' cerebral membrane of the Kosmos is the outermost sphere ; ' and ' the things which are united to this cosmic meninx are the fixed stars and the planets . They , like the Kosmos itself and all living things within it , are composed of soul ( νοητόν ) and body ( υλικόν ) ;
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but being in or near the outermost sphere , in which the soul or life of the Kosmos is concentrated , they have in them more soul than body ’ ; whence it results that they are consequently ' not bad ' . On the other hand , all living organisms in the sublunar region have in them ‘ more body than soul ’ ;whence it results that they are consequently bad
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地圓說非常古老
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