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God help me, I can't put this off forever.
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Onwards with Episode 4.
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Ange and Mammon are cute.
lily!
It's... really sad seeing the comparison between Ange and Maria then and now.
lily!
Like something obviously happened to Maria that made her lose Sakutaro, and I think that's going to parallel whatever made Ange stop believing in magic until she met Bernkastel.
lily!
awww https://images.plurk.com/5vxS6MXJuiX7epC3h59Pqz.png
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oh this is gonna hurt https://images.plurk.com/23K8KLuYhPQBLoDIBZAfsr.png
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;w; https://images.plurk.com/3ZRrUZuFTtwVbhXKIDwmMS.png
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As an aside, stuff like this is why I'm convinced Kyrie doesn't JUST care about Rudolf. I think she legitimately cares about both of her kids.
lily!
If she was entirely fixated on Rudolf, she wouldn't have risked putting him in a bad mood by smuggling Ange over to an arcade to meet Battler.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY HEART https://images.plurk.com/3SsdAMvhUaeYC4pDxU9dqQ.png
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ouch oof https://images.plurk.com/3ugOZLEHFsfQ82MQSAubnd.png
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAA https://images.plurk.com/Znze49aZk2HojJwrZqt13.png
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ange.....
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Magic is what feels like magic in the world of witches. If it's a magical thing, a symbol to young Ange, then it's magic. https://images.plurk.com/5obHJy2ECIFkFr3ap8ptyp.png
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Interesting. https://images.plurk.com/517cf7nhBqujdKg7cYVzq9.png
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;w; https://images.plurk.com/3IackXC2HibxC9GEaaDnJD.png
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this is all so much https://images.plurk.com/6j8zCa17DwKxr0HmH34qX3.png
lily!
mammon you are gay https://images.plurk.com/3w31bLyz3MXdtsNbRnb8tD.png
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ange you are gay https://images.plurk.com/6HnQu4ixhPxGT6alv8b4et.png
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ange you are making me cry https://images.plurk.com/6GA5sPxtQrUFBm28WVJ6Lz.png
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GOD. https://images.plurk.com/1zagY0Pca4YpMLDW0nE3wY.png
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oh this is gonna hurt isn't it https://images.plurk.com/4jrdo8cL26sfaAke3Xs1WM.png
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BREAKS DOWN CRYING https://images.plurk.com/6btfBsx2TbO70SspopfYo8.png
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SHE REMEMBERS
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IT SHOULDN'T EVEN BE POSSIBLE BUT SHE REMEMBERS
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oh i hate this https://images.plurk.com/5QBd2d7aeqiYBdXyULLqxB.png
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UH https://images.plurk.com/19nfEMyTLOK270rRx4rx9q.png
lily!
so mammon is not allowed to talk about things that would disprove the existence of witches it seems
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which means that whatever ange went through it pierced her belief in magic
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HERE WE GO https://images.plurk.com/HkvME46FDjsS80G4A1qwc.png
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LAMB TIME
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...ANGE does pose a pretty big threat to Lamb, huh.
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If she tries hard enough, she can break Bernie's birdcage.
lily!
Huh. https://images.plurk.com/1L6oJYdvi8MnvmsZCLsPJS.png
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ange is not here to deal with this bullshit https://images.plurk.com/1nYdqQYqJ1sFJnPivHfioy.png
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ange's liberal use f english is such an interesting character trait for someone who's so reserved
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i think she just
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really wants to be seen as COOL
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Ahhh, it's like a game of Star in MTG. https://images.plurk.com/6tHEu1N4T5U6mCoT8ZebAA.png
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what is going ON with you, lamb https://images.plurk.com/BeqvhbCmzhYC5rmsh6ZCK.png
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhh boy. who are we gonna trust https://images.plurk.com/2gAcYyxVFiqDwSpSTNKgym.png
lily!
Ah. Figured as much. https://images.plurk.com/1Yfu6ieR9CaSmfx7cspQXN.png
lily!
...god, we still don't know where "Ushiromiya Battler" comes from.
lily!
Because as I pointed out, the simple fact that he's here means that he can't be from Episode 1's native Battler.
lily!
There needs to be a combination of the letters and the library to foster enough suspicion to create this situation where the game can exist.
lily!
So, who is Ushiromiya Battler?
lily!
god, poor ange https://images.plurk.com/1wm4BbfNnXJrK5xk0UicH.png
lily!
this is a very effective scare tactic that lamb's using tbh. because if ange thinks that the game is her only chance to meet battler she'll be a lot more reluctant to finish it. but regardless of the truth, ange'll probably be able to see through to what lamb is trying to do here https://images.plurk.com/6Rn0fw0dBs8shg0mQRvIhy.png
lily!
The truth will be revealed, and they will all be murdered because conclusively a witch didn't do it and thus Ange can't resurrect them. https://images.plurk.com/22jDxTzJK8E0RkslbqGVAl.png
lily!
ah, right. kyrie DID trust her grandpa.
lily!
yeeeeeeeep https://images.plurk.com/4gRuLCgM2aYHn9qit5whCP.png
lily!
i would just like to say that the music for this segment fucking bops
lily!
...ah. The other outcome is that she erases her own existence that led her to this stage of the game, isn't it? https://images.plurk.com/Gniy8vZ8e9ZR5bRFhQTV4.png
lily!
Hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh. https://images.plurk.com/5ralw2l6MdCvdIhUCIi3Uz.png
lily!
The witch Bernkastel remains a witch, locked away from her friends. While Rika Furude gets her happy ending. https://images.plurk.com/2drBwblGHnPcP61GJrDw54.png
lily!
I was thinking too simplistically.
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We've already seen this process before.
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Ah. Of course. https://images.plurk.com/3L1AAnQAdcaq9LhdoESEa0.png
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1998 is the world of twelve years in the future. 1986 is the now. Of course. OF COURSE. I thought that phrasing was odd- https://images.plurk.com/3T41Sph2KXEhv14i39k8fV.png
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...I finally understand it. The game board, I mean. https://images.plurk.com/4T51y02wbVtJWnzmOEczGZ.png
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The game board does not have a single element of "truth" in it, no matter how expansive it is.
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It's a projection of potentially true Fragment somewhere, but just that, a projection.
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And if the projection is smashed-
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Which makes the question of WHO IS USHIROMIYA BATTLER all the more relevant
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this is all so much https://images.plurk.com/33rQwhluk4NJGNoKiHPzio.png
lily!
God. Poor girl. https://images.plurk.com/3jJ0Fjr0yOoygd6q1K5kEg.png
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i knew that this is where she was eventually going with this at least https://images.plurk.com/2myaOClL4O33PPKxx6yQgh.png
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA https://images.plurk.com/36LPNHzIf3QY5mQFmfLx6M.png
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then what game is the furniture playing, in both the domain of humans and witches?
lily!
Ouch. https://images.plurk.com/bAPq2mSN0XubSB58eush0.png
lily!
this is so much https://images.plurk.com/5U4zHc0vWGAhiA50lXSnd6.png
lily!
fadsu4jw90easDPFjuiadhfs https://images.plurk.com/62YR7TgGUUDPPocP0JCELg.png
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...just another birdcage for Beato. https://images.plurk.com/4WTTVMugls1fPrk6Cj2w9X.png
lily!
Now I see why mirrors are so important. https://images.plurk.com/4cY6Qaa2AI6usIQvB8URXT.png
lily!
The game, it's- it's literally smoke and mirrors!
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Reflect parts of a fragment for the board and the pieces.
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Use smoke to obscure what you don't want your opponent to see and call it magic.
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But none of it is real, because you're a reflection of a reflection of a reflection too.
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incoming "Dame daze. Zettai dame daze." https://images.plurk.com/PUKqmkEYU7teB8AOYVfE8.png
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It's a characteristic of this family to keep on going even when the path ahead has no rewards.
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It would've been so, so easy for Battler to give up, after all.
lily!
And plus, throwing a "zettai" in the face of the Witch of Certainty would be a great move.
lily!
god. poor ange. https://images.plurk.com/2y7vu3X4Z2X8E57XI8VlQS.png
lily!
ohohohohoho
lily!
new chapter, new flashback, new context for ange
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god i love the sisters
lily!
when ange remembered-
lily!
the stakes, the magic, that's when-
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god.
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Humans need fantasy to aspire toward, huh?
lily!
To live.
lily!
Living without dreams is condemning yourself to a miserable existenc.e
Quinn Angstrom
Full disclosure, the shit you were warned about earlier
Quinn Angstrom
are mainly in this chapter and the next one
Quinn Angstrom
so uhhhh brace yourself
lily!
hooooooboy
lily!
thanks for the warning
lily!
have you been enjoying my shotgun theorizing
Quinn Angstrom
always
lily!
Ha. https://images.plurk.com/7cLDyoGBlx2XVCE8A5rmzL.png
lily!
Thinking about it, the logic Lamb is attacking ANGE with is fundamentally flawed.
lily!
Because she's going at her with the assumption that ANGE or the Ange of 1998 has anything left to lose.
lily!
As long as one little girl, one Ushiromiya Ange of the year 1986 is happy, I think ANGE will be satisfied even if she disappears into the darkness.
lily!
Even one moment with Battler was more than she possibly could've hoped for.
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God, poor Ange. https://images.plurk.com/39DdCsOGiYuXsA9zqE70nu.png
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ange,,,,,,,,,,,,,, https://images.plurk.com/2DIl5e4A3x0Ooe0eOGqsSL.png
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"According to the occult message bottle I hated, it seems several of them even attacked my family." https://images.plurk.com/5LIbHR7mMpI9YYJvBaPEs.png
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WEHS
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haaaaaah https://images.plurk.com/1hnSX12eFaktddT2kpQp4o.png
lily!
Pictured: my average reaction to Sakutaro. https://images.plurk.com/5CvXFGSG6W88KWGheF4ElB.png
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honestly i think mammon, bel, and satan are my fave of the sisters https://images.plurk.com/2vWAbHC3grGicTim9Q4q2P.png
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something i find really interesting is that the more that ange looks up to maria as an older sister and mentor figure, the more she fits that mold despite how young she is https://images.plurk.com/7fwr88mPULUu127ozIS26n.png
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god she is so autistic https://images.plurk.com/2N8uN2MsyiGkOgO1KP5EyM.png
lily!
MARIAAAAAAA https://images.plurk.com/7yAhTUaKjVSs5l6LnyXrMN.png
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god. poor maria
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poor all the kids
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Maria's been practicing, huh. https://images.plurk.com/4HReGbXckdqy8tWEaFsgVK.png
lily!
ange and all her witch friends it just
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god it just kills me
lily!
You know, like. I know this is intentionally reading against the text and what it's trying to imply.
lily!
But if we're going to go full death of the author, I think it would be interesting to examine Ange's witch friends in the context of online friends?
lily!
People who can comfort her, know her intimately, yet can't actually help her in the "real world."
lily!
1998 was a year where stuff like message boards and chat rooms really started taking off.
*lux
ange would have really enjoyed online friends as well as the anonymity/ability to be someone besides ushiromiya ange online i think
lily!
whoops that sent weirdly
lily!
But yeah, I agree there.
lily!
i'm dying squirtle https://images.plurk.com/5NfYfyzD5iAcevumpv9Le1.png
lily!
No wonder Lamb is so powerful. https://images.plurk.com/3xUa0ZLXtQJyoUsGEzPH2x.png
lily!
this is about to become very relevant isn't it https://images.plurk.com/riwZVoxkbPqlTxfp7lS6x.png
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ange just INSTANTLY catches on i love her https://images.plurk.com/3TzjGeFJPtiztpdhcgnkkM.png
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awwwww shiritori....
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oh i don't like this https://images.plurk.com/JHflg7vWRbhuC7gt5A5Xm.png
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fyi blogs will not be. very frequent this segment probably
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these assholes absolutely gave her the wrong test sheets on purpose
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that's sweet, mammon https://images.plurk.com/25mPRA1lrGfXnz7gYPYGr2.png
lily!
Oh no. https://images.plurk.com/7rhSsj1aMqZjdzOsTtspDq.png
lily!
ange ;w; https://images.plurk.com/4qZ5fo7MWhTEiGXAHyBmMD.png
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god this. this hurts https://images.plurk.com/452a6LRKHEiPqTTKgkWAYl.png
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god https://images.plurk.com/PuYpx5GKePd9GHvNrpv0W.png
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satan................ https://images.plurk.com/6nyLaXQBEFtpp6JR68xFLh.png
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MAMMON,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, https://images.plurk.com/5Y6KoXgkCFBbC7vBy3vssl.png
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SAME, ASMO. SAME. https://images.plurk.com/3eDXQy3UUdbbTpQzrtrwLr.png
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fuck. https://images.plurk.com/yC897ZaFdqVMfd1Ag62Ps.png
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ah. i. thought something like this would happen. https://images.plurk.com/6AXpeURAIU4L51j3tBwMjK.png
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Fuck. https://images.plurk.com/2LkK4oCeMaTJTdwVzhchtC.png
lily!
fuck, i
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this. hurts
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ange....... https://images.plurk.com/5VB30pCgU1UyrBCs3wz0it.png
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SHE'S TRYING SO HARD................ https://images.plurk.com/37jji2Wj7H7RtTvJK5yWiv.png
lily!
fuck https://images.plurk.com/3CtZFf3UESZTGW5lFzEEnV.png
lily!
FUCK. https://images.plurk.com/5TXa89jgGx6TSV15Bcr4PE.png
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ah. https://images.plurk.com/3Sh4zcYy1jUu552w9r5JXQ.png
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MAMMMMONNNNNN https://images.plurk.com/2GUz4fhXKm6IPrgcftCoOo.png
lily!
mammon cares about her so much and it's hurting me
lily!
Ouch. https://images.plurk.com/3ygZG3A5visAOnRP1fW3eE.png
lily!
god this all hurts just. so much. everything about this situation sucks so bad https://images.plurk.com/37LZv8mD1JXI49A6Lg2MO2.png
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FUUUUUUCK. MAMMON SAYING IT FOR ME https://images.plurk.com/4WbGLXXI0tvslJiuhoGwBT.png
lily!
i just. i,. fuck https://images.plurk.com/T3XMWv5ib1mnXHzmmaxyJ.png
lily!
oh thank god https://images.plurk.com/6wRcR4GvAyZtFWMiCmDMyO.png
lily!
this really is a microcosm of the cycle of abuse the entire game is about and it hurts so bad
lily!
fuck https://images.plurk.com/6pVlNov1L5B3EK6qid12ww.png
lily!
total denial of fantasy is just as harmful as total acceptance of it
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i think that's the primary thesis umineko is working towards
lily!
humans can't live in dreams, but we still need them to survive, to be our best selves
lily!
ange...................
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this is fucking me up, this is why i wanted to delay this episode, i, fuck https://images.plurk.com/3f5SDTZ602tlmIQRaWeLoE.png
lily!
maria brought... young ange to kuwadorian? https://images.plurk.com/1c2ERYeugBkawyuVKDWR2X.png
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i. fuck
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https://images.plurk.com/60t9zJ4bZFZHSxPYC2jDN8.png
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this is... god, i don't know what it is, but it's hitting a chord not much else has with me https://images.plurk.com/26F36UoX704Ne74xQSCp3O.png
lily!
and then we're... back to this problem https://images.plurk.com/T9beewOi9lpbALEiaPGze.png
lily!
fuck. https://images.plurk.com/6wJZe3We05NqRm5KdMm4PG.png
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no, ange, don't https://images.plurk.com/6RRYFRI4u7U8rkD0eaCVnE.png
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i just........... ange., https://images.plurk.com/79IGoaQABRMn8ZqZPRUhww.png
lily!
A witch's piece can't save a human. https://images.plurk.com/3zEhSd3zLrq70CEcTMojzb.png
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even after all that, she.... she still... https://images.plurk.com/2NB1tCFL4lM2yHuqjfOK6S.png
*lux
maria is a good kid
Rama
God
Rama
Even on a reread
lily!
https://images.plurk.com/4vBbT2NbOTSfCAID84QlKK.png
lily!
okay
lily!
maria time
lily!
this is going to hurt even more but if i put it off i'm going to put it off for another two weeks
lily!
oh.
lily!
this is... fuck, this is maria's end of the aftermath of that conference
lily!
maria...
Subarashii
this really is a microcosm of the cycle of abuse the entire game is about and it hurts so bad yeah, basically, which is probably why I like it so much
Subarashii
umineko is an unflinching look at what the cycle of abuse does to people
lily!
it's a killer scene but it's a very good storytelling beat
lily!
...four rabbits, huh. Her best friends in the forest band.
lily!
Are there two more Chiester sisters, then?
lily!
god this is some fascinating history here https://images.plurk.com/6zOe5FGjrovIVdWdyCvsVF.png
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awwwww https://images.plurk.com/4MRGH7j61J3hMvMRfslKr3.png
lily!
i am so glad the convenience store manager is nice to her at least
lily!
like. i don't think he believes in the animals. but he at least recognizes that maria's home situation is bad and she needs them, and that somebody telling her they don't exist would hurt her
lily!
i do appreciate the details of like
lily!
the adults in the shopping district trying to help maria as gently as possible
lily!
because umineko is a story about love and if everybody was horrible all the time it wouldn't be effective
lily!
oh no. https://images.plurk.com/2FVSadD9Lq4IyWoq9F0V5I.png
lily!
poor maria...
lily!
ah. i figured this is where it was going. which means there's going to be a major traumatic event attached to this https://images.plurk.com/5HHAigM6uhOlOc7oNNQIPd.png
Quinn Angstrom
that sentence says a lot about Maria's worldview and upbringing
Quinn Angstrom
that she assumes that bad things primarily happen because she did something wrong
lily!
it really does and it kills me
lily!
i mean this is a good philosophy but i think rosa has an ulterior motive https://images.plurk.com/A5PyXsXyi4avkGOm2FdYF.png
lily!
god, poor maria, https://images.plurk.com/1gavc4bca54ztocaMKgsk8.png
lily!
i knew this was coming but it still hit like a punch to the gut https://images.plurk.com/1xjnAKTNc3S2cry1zMcOHu.png
lily!
oh this is going to lead directly into the thing that i was warned about so i'm bracing myself https://images.plurk.com/4pbNJGmZeBjlXljBSB2mtW.png
lily!
i hate rosa so much
lily!
oh no. https://images.plurk.com/1PFdt7euWT6UQQKGdbanwK.png
lily!
you aren't raising her, rosa. you're killing her. https://images.plurk.com/3LLvDx3uoRAD57o9N13TXl.png
lily!
fuck off. https://images.plurk.com/MGb1M99jGHE1P5pjCjkiA.png
lily!
Fuck. https://images.plurk.com/4kQXPJH5dpT2V2yJnmIG8H.png
lily!
well there's that at least https://images.plurk.com/79uITDsClV8WIHM13A5Dn6.png
lily!
i think rosa has taken the crown of "character i hate the most" from kinzo https://images.plurk.com/5S2n4YUCebfZaUZ7pnV131.png
lily!
i hate rosa SO MUCH
lily!
YOU, ASSHOLE! YOU'RE A FUCKING ADULT! https://images.plurk.com/113mPzOJUaYKa4cRBa2aFU.png
lily!
SAKUTAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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c...an...dy.......
lily!
Fuck. https://images.plurk.com/3tdaRWeyuEn4gv9tBMHTty.png
lily!
just the total breakdown in the narrative after this happens just
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i
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god
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something i find interesting is the way the magic system works makes its limitations make sense from the domain of witches
lily!
but in the domain of humans it's really easy to point at it and say that "you're just making up the rules as you go along so you don't have to clearly demonstrate your powers in front of Humans"
Subarashii
well, also, everyone being terrible all the time isn't realistic, which is something I want to tell some writers
lily!
God. https://images.plurk.com/5vnlCwThtjtufwfLGKlbLf.png
Subarashii
so It's good ryu also adds 'yeah, people can be nice'
lily!
yeah fair
Rama
You've reached it
lily!
she is trying... SO HARD... for maria... sobs.... https://images.plurk.com/3V6aAFNaGS1iuML2YVvXdP.png
Rama
The saddest part of Episode 4 on the first read
lily!
something that i think is important here is the social worker's perspective
lily!
because as she's looking at this horrible scene
lily!
it doesn't matter whether sakutaro is factually "real" or not
lily!
because the fact of the matter rosa is still killing maria's only friend and that's what matters to maria
lily!
oh god on a FIRST read???
lily!
HOW CAN ANYTHING ON A SECOND READ GET BLEAKER THAN THESE TWO CHAPTERS????????????
lily!
god this. must be why MARIA is so understanding of ange during her own violent breakdown
lily!
Fuck. https://images.plurk.com/1qF23DIGuphpesR5NPXRzf.png
Subarashii
I'm not going to say anything but just put ahahaha.wav here at that question as per your rules
lily!
thank you
Subarashii
I hope you heard the sound effect
lily!
i did
lily!
god beato really is looking and maria and realizing that she can't have this kid go down the same path as her
lily!
but against her better judgment she does anyways
lily!
....holy shit. https://images.plurk.com/7evDA7jvvjBs8uNBhRxwlu.png
lily!
Are they- is she really-
lily!
I've got to stop playing in around 40 minutes but holy fuck
lily!
god i wonder
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