Neo Quinn
[gbf] OK here's something I'm lost on
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the enemy charge bar
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the basics are simple enough
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one diamond fills up each turn
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when it's full they do a special attack
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but where I get confused is with overdrive and break
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when a boss overdrives it says "charge bar now fills in fewer turns!"
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and then continues to charge at one diamond per turn
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then when they break it... stops going up? goes up slower? the diamonds turn blue
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also overdrive seems to sometimes trigger before the overdrive bar is full so that's also weird
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except wait, do bosses NOT gain charge diamonds when they aren't in overdrive?
Th▲t M▲n 5
I don't directly remember how "charge bar now fills in fewer turns" works but I know there are characters who have skills that make the enemy's charge bar take more turns to charge, and the way they accomplish that is by adding an extra diamond
Neo Quinn
yeah that's straightforward
Th▲t M▲n 5
so I would imagine that some bosses just have the ability to remove a diamond
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nope
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diamond count does not change
Th▲t M▲n 5
ah... hm
Th▲t M▲n 5
...it's also possible that the text is just wrong and a leftover from an earlier version of the boss
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if it is, it's wrong on every single boss in the game
Th▲t M▲n 5
as for overdrive triggering early, is it extremely early or is it like 90%
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like 90%
Th▲t M▲n 5
okay so obviously I don't have the answers but I've seen this too and I think what's going on there is that overdrive can technically start at times when the animation can't play yet
Th▲t M▲n 5
and under some circumstances that might mean you get in a couple more hits before the animation plays
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ahh
Th▲t M▲n 5
so technically what happened was it reached 100 and then went back down to 90
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at least that's my best guess
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but honestly, the mechanics of this game are in many ways a mystery to me
Neo Quinn
all 18 hard primal raids done, one solitary SR weapon drop 
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OK doing some of my own research
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- charge diamond gain is paused when in break, paralyzed, or petrified
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- during overdrive, after using charge attack, boss resets to 1 diamond instead of 0
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that about clears it up
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and Break clears after a certain time limit or by taking a certain amount of damage
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the only things Overdrive does are retaining a charge diamond after special and powering up their charge attack
Th▲t M▲n 5
ahhh that makes sense