

Crow Witch
Name a fandom or character and I will give you an unpopular opinion.


antler queen
...A star war.

Crow Witch
The Last Jedi is good

Crow Witch
Hayden Christianson and Natalie Portman can both act and for some reason, in the Star Wars prequels... didn't.

Crow Witch
Most people who say Rey is too powerful are sexist.

Mouth Powers
(it was ~bad direction~)

Mouth Powers
all of these are correct

Crow Witch
Don't forget bad dialogue

StupidSexyV⚠der
they acted. turn off the sounds and watch their faces it improves the movie so much.

Crow Witch
Also, the hate Kylo gets is like 99.7% toxic masculinity.

Mouth Powers
I read a thing once that was like "all the people who came off well in the prequels were classically trained shakespearean actors at some point and thats why they're good at very stilted dialogue"

Mouth Powers
McEwan, Neesan, etc

Crow Witch
that tracks

Crow Witch
But like, the Kylo hate basically "a man who has emotions is weak no matter how strong he obviously is"

StupidSexyV⚠der
Mouth Powers
: Yeah that makes sense

StupidSexyV⚠der
Crow Witch
: yeah there is a lot of that is the fandom

Mouth Powers
or at least can make it sound natural

StupidSexyV⚠der
les mis btw

Mouth Powers
huh, that's not at all the flavor of most of the kylo hate I've heard

Mouth Powers
but I only catch random bits of it

Crow Witch
It's the whole "Emo Kylo Ren" think... which I love that twitter feed as much as anyone byt..

Crow Witch
Les Mis unpopular take.... hum that's harder

Crow Witch
Eponine is overraited

Crow Witch
She loved Marius. He didn't love her. She's not entitled to him. Marius is not an asshole for not loving her. Yes her death is sad yes she's a pitiable character but Marius did not OWE her anything.

Mouth Powers
I mostly see a lot of Purity Brigade "everyone interested in the ancient Brooding Byronic Archetype is a stupid bitch perpetuating abuse culture" bad takes

Crow Witch
I've seen that one too

Mouth Powers
90% of the kylo hate i've seen falls into that category, which I guess says something about the fandoms I've mostly escaped from, probably

Crow Witch
I think for me I like characters who are contradictory natures. I like how powerful and how brutal he can be crossed with how vulnerable he can be.

StupidSexyV⚠der
I've seen a lot of hate towards the character for crying/being weak/acting lube a victim

Crow Witch
Most of what I hear is the "KYLO IS A WHINY PUNK BITCH" insults

StupidSexyV⚠der
yep

Crow Witch
StupidSexyV⚠der
: I love your auto correct so much

StupidSexyV⚠der
...fuck

Mouth Powers
I'm like, 98% indifferent to Kylo but I think it's like. really dumb to pretend that he wasn't meant to be complicated and central to the theming of the ST to the extent that they did ANY planning at ALL

StupidSexyV⚠der
i mean it changed victim to 'bottom' but i caught that

Crow Witch
sadly I think a lot of the fandom wants ships and laser swords and not complexity

Crow Witch
YOU MEAN IT COULD HAVE BEEN LUBE A BOTTOM?

Mouth Powers
you don't have to like that character type to understand that he's in the Vader Character Spot and not the Tarkin Spot

StupidSexyV⚠der
Mouth Powers
: as much as they did any planning at all right. but yes

Crow Witch
ok maybe it's late and I'm being childish but I'm crying

StupidSexyV⚠der
YES

Crow Witch
Mouth Powers
: And yes I agree..... ah the world of JJ

Crow Witch
"If we start strong everything will be fine.... OH CRAP OH CRAP OH CRAP"

Mouth Powers
like, there's TLJ haters that think Rian Johnson pulled Reylo vibes out of NOWHERE or that JJ didn't always think Kylo was cool (and also didn't notice that the reylo arc in TLJ that fundamentally repudiates the idea that she should fix him but)

Mouth Powers
(paying attention to actual narrative resolution would be HARD)

Crow Witch
Mouth Powers
: Totally

Crow Witch
But... I dunno... Maybe Rise of Skywalker deserves it's hate but Last Jedi does NOT

Mouth Powers
people wanted it to be so many other things so badly that a lot of people paid no attention to what it actually was

Mouth Powers
which was cool as hell, actually :|

Mouth Powers
I've never bothered to see TRoS so idk but from the complains of "JJ is at it again writing lots of running around and no solid convictions" I'm pretty sure that's probably fair

StupidSexyV⚠der
TLJ has some issues but over all its solid

Crow Witch
It's more like a lore movie going "hey here are things you liked in star wars lets show them to you" rather than an actual narrative, and the pacing is TERRIBLE but it also has some really good stuff in it? I dunno I can objectively see how it's bad but I also don't hate it

Crow Witch
Sorry that was Rise of Skywalker not The Last Jedi in my last statement

Crow Witch
Honestly, if they'd dropped a few of the dumb pointless sub plots and slowed down the pace and expanded the main plots it COULD HAVE been pretty good

StupidSexyV⚠der
...what pacing

StupidSexyV⚠der
there was pacing?

Crow Witch
Point made

StupidSexyV⚠der
also i tossed Les Mis in there but we ranting so

Crow Witch
I responded its back there somewhere

StupidSexyV⚠der
i didn't see it! but yeah you're right

antler queen
all of these yes

antler queen
no one could have acted the prequels well given the dialogue and direction

antler queen
idg the Kylo hate from people who love Anakin/Vader. like. ???

StupidSexyV⚠der
no no no. they love Vader

StupidSexyV⚠der
they HATE Anakin

StupidSexyV⚠der
I'm like bitch Kylo was what Palpatine WANTED TO DO TO ANAKIN

Crow Witch
Yup