McCovid Hey Plurk. Mcdonalds, Burger King, and other fast food restaurants are arguing they are essential, putting thousands of US employees and customers at risk. Trump is supporting this. Bad PR is our only defense. Shame On Mcdonalds
But even delivery and drive thru services are inherently dangerous in situations like these. Even if you don't pass money, all orders and payments are made online, and food is passed through a sally port system, there is still the inherent danger of your own coworkers.
many of the areas under lockdown have already begun establishing food and meal distribution services on a state or county level for the elderly and disabled
the argument the companies are making is that the healthcare staff cannot continue to perform their jobs efficiently without a McCafe Beverage to start their day or fuel their lunch break
I understand that but on the other hand, as someone with an autoimmune disorder that causes my immune system to attack my own joints, if I'm having a day where I can't carry a grocery bag out of the store and instacart is booked solid (as it has been for over a week now- no service available) then having food delivery options means I get to eat.
I'm also trying to avoid elevators as much as possible so getting heavy groceries, and carrying them 4 flights is not happening. I think if it's possible to keep drive-thrus open safely (and allow people to walk through them), use credit/debit only, etc, it would be nice to keep them as an option
I don't think anyone's arguing they should close. Just that keep deliveries as an option is understandable and very handy for a lot of people who have no other choices to eat.
I know in NY we've got all restaurants and bars listed as essential to help small businesses stay afloat. yes this does let the big chains keep operating too, but from what I've seen everyone's taking precautions (drive up/take out only, card/digital pay only)
personally I like buying like 10 mcd's plain cheeseburgers and keeping them in the fridge for up to 4 days. keep them wrapped and dump them in the microwave between 26-34 seconds and they reheat pretty damn well
There were concerns about how the funding mechanism for a bill that would require employers to provide 14 days of paid sick leave to employees would impact franchisees' financials. lbr that's what this really boils down to
if it was card only, delivery only so your only social interaction is the like 3 people in the kitchen with you I wouldn't be so mad but........ that's not what we're talking about here
again, I agree that delivery/fast food might be the only way some people are able to get food right now, but let's also not pretend this is about then and not all about how mega corps freaked out over maybe having to pay their employees actual wages
I just ordered some burger king but I've been hypo all day and can't see to actually cook a food. I try not to get fast food much at all and I feel bad now
Yeah, if I were still living in a hotel it would be, no kitchen facilities. I mean I can usually throw a stir fry together but not when my blood sugar's messed up lol. But I'm sure there are plenty of people who can't cook for one reason or another
Another one here who frequently can't cook. I have a hypermobility condition that causes frequent joint pain, and pushing through it risks things like pulled muscles from simple, daily activities.
IF it's the maintenance part of the dealership, they're allowed to remain open. people still wreck, still need new tires, still need oil changes and inspections.
agreeing with delivery over dine-in. i apologize, everything here has been shut down for everything but delivery/pick-up so i hadnt' realized they were still open in the restaurant portion in some places...
Okay, I have to weigh in here now that I've calmed down enough to be sane and rational about this. I have several medical conditions that render me unable to cook some days. I have vertigo issues, joint issues, and medication issues. There are days that I cannot walk, let alone cook. That being said, I have planned extensively for those days.
Even before COVID-19, I stocked my kitchen with things that are simple and easy. Things I can throw in the microwave or just eat out of the cupboard. I understand my limitations and planned for them accordingly.
I'm not trying to start a fight. I'm really not. For some people who are living in places without kitchens, I do understand that food services are necessary. I'm only stating that there are alternative options if people are willing to look into them and are willing to prepare for them.
yes, there are, but not everyone has unlimited access to them. im definitely not in any way advocating eating fast food regularly, but sometimes it's just something easy enough and dependable enough for people to find useful
dine-in is closed in MI but that doesn't help the workers trapped in drive thru with no options but to go in and risk bringing it home to children or compromised family members or get fired and not have a place to live when the eviction ban lifts
And yes, I completely agree with that! Hell, I'm just a guilty of sending out the wife for tacos when I just can't be assed to cook. But in times like this, safety has to come before convenient. Especially when the virus can live on the surfaces that food is put in and the bag it's delivered in.
I've heard elsewhere that if fast food employees are considered essential for the survivability of something of these proportions then they should be paid accordingly, not barely minimum wage so they're desperately scrapping pennies to make it to the next paycheck
Again, I'm not trying to fight. I'm just trying to understand, I guess? People with pre-existing conditions have such an increased rate of complications that I, personally, can't understand risking a delivery order. I might die. No McDonalds is worth that, to me.
if this is what our country considers essential then why are these people, fast food workers, grocery clerks, cashiers, the ones that get the worst pay, no job security, horrible conditions
i am going to politely say that it is not necessary for you to understand why other people might need food delivered in order for you to continue taking the precautions that you feel are necessary
My apologies for the lose of your job. This wasn't meant to be a jab at you. I was just expressing my opinion and trying to understand other's opinions. I hope you hear back from them soon. Good luck.
Or endangering your life from the virus, or...endangering your life from starvation. I don't have a refrigerator that can hold a week of groceries, let alone a stockpile, and there are days I can barely even make it downstairs to answer the door, let alone mess around with dishes and everything that even microwaved dinners require.
yeah. being brittle type one as well as blind, im generally okay day to day. but days when i have a sudden low and dont happen to have any carby stuff with protein around to treat it adequately, sometimes i do genuinely need food delivered or id be in very bad straights
(and my current residence has a stovetop and nothing else for cooking, so its difficult, especially when low, to be able to just throw something in a pan to heat because most things require chopping at the very least)
but im generally fine! it's maybe once i week i need a delivery, and i try to limit them as much as possible. but i worry for the elderly and those that are genuinely without the ability to cook regularly
that said, as a very poor person who's worked a lot of food service, of course i dont agree with the abysmal wages and conditions food service workers face
I think the biggest problem here is that it's not people like you guys that are the issue. It's the thousands of perfectly healthy individuals that just think it's no big deal and they are entitled to their burgers and shakes and sitting on the back stoop of the house next to the local bar with a dozen of their buddies drinking
There is a problem with that being taken advantage of but the same problem happens when people go 'grocery shopping' every. single. day. But there IS a need for those interstate places if you want to keep stores stocked
if it were only people that genuinely needed these services the contact would be massively limited but..... there are still so many people that are laughing the whole thing off
my roommate works at McDonald's and even with her hours cut down right now today alone she served hundreds of people that just wanted fucking ice cream
and yeah, thats understandable to be upset about, but...a large population (or really, even a small one) is never going to follow ordinances properly. and it leads to the choice being necessary between shutting down completely and really hurting those that need it, and people just being turds
but that applies for people using grocery trip excuses to go to walmart or out every day to buy shit at their grocery store and. We still need truckers to eat, and we still need grocery stores open
McDs told the roomie it doesn't matter that she lives with 2 high risk people. Even though she has PTO (not a lot but 5 years gets you something) she is not allowed to use it unless she herself is sick
Yep. My place is saying to stay home, but my boss was upset when I was having system issues while doing a non-essential project, and wanted to make me come in.
And you know with a lot of places, they make it so hard to call out because they run a skeleton crew and keep the bare minimum number of employees for things to stay functional.
I have my fiancee but I've got degenerative joint disease in my lumbar and cervical spine, fibromyalgia, and some weird cerebral malfunction, now. I'm glad my girl's been snagging canned soups and stuff. Being disabled sucks right now, esp. with a broken arm.
Gentle waving motions from the frozen shoulder person. I realize it's not nearly on the same level but my dominant arm has been getting progressively useless and ouchy, it is le suck
I count myself lucky that my arm issue is only a pinched nerve... even if it's gonna take forever for it to let go since physical therapy is not happening right now
they really were. I always just think of the line from Babylon 5: "If our simian ancestors could have seen this coming, they would have said 'to hell with the opposable thumbs' and stayed in the trees!"
Bodies were a mistake: the most relatable. I feel envy every time I read a scifi novel where someone had artificial nerves to replace his actual nerves. I'm ready for my cyborg body.
I'm lucky that my current med combo is working wonders so I can prep food, but with no grocery deliveries available until April, I would probably be living on fast food deliveries now if my mother hadn't come in to drive me to the grocery store.
so... I can understand that there are populations for whom the service is essential. But I really wish people wouldn't abuse them and expose the employees more than necessary.
E.S. Levi
: I'm not trying to be nosey but I'm in the Cincinnati Ohio area. I'm willing to do a shop for people. maybe plurk/facebbok/twitter/etc could help you find someone?
my neighbor didn't, either. luckily a combination of going shopping early plus the store imposing limits per customer meant I was able to pick up an 18-pack to share
There were concerns about how the funding mechanism for a bill that would require employers to provide 14 days of paid sick leave to employees would impact franchisees' financials.lbr that's what this really boils down to