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Sometimes I kinda miss IC Epicmafia games, but I have a strong feeling that I'd get frustrated if I went back there
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on account of role-heavy Mafia is basically a trivially-beaten game for the non-mafia team
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once you know the right tricks
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not always, but damn often
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the second-turn attack of "I'm the cop, [X] is mafia, vote him, kill me tomorrow if it's not true"
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the late-game trump card of "Everyone confirm your roles, whichever we get two of, one of those people is the last mafia"
NekoIncardine
Agreed... I've considered some Epicmafia-like structures, though.
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Houserules?
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How about just.
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"You can't disclaim your role outside of your will or if somebody guesses it?"
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Disclaim is not the right word there at all, dunno how it got there.
BWAAAAAH!
Disclose
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Probably yeah.
Rabbit Crimes
Could also go the Town of Salem route - divide roles up into "classes" for Town and Mafia, with similar roles, and not announce SPECIFIC role names and only disclose which classes are present on each side and how many
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Lets the mafia claim to be their townie counterpart and turn the "X can't also be this class, clearly they're mafia!" back on the town
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last i saw epicmafia introduced like a shittload of weird roles
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which i'm pretty sure only serve to make the game More Obtuse
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You can get a Pretty Weird Game going on EM, yeah.
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...man now I want to get a bunch of people together for IC Town of Salem
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I miss IC random dumb shit in general.
Dead Mentors
The trick is to only play dumbasses, obviously. :V
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I mean I think the trouble is just playing with different levels of competency people who are newer to it don't know what to do
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So people with more experience take hold
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I feel like it can work best if you just
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Have a bunch of people so it can be a big game and so you can build in ways to make role claiming not efficient
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And then just ban public role claiming
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Whispers role claiming only
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Like role claiming isn't a great strategy except in a small game or near the end of a large one
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Anyway I'd love to try and put together a BIG ic mafia game sometime
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With like 15 people approx?
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I think it would be a lot more fun
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And then just set some ground rules
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I've played like 10-15 person games of IC EPM.
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Yeah so have I its just usually they're smaller
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And I think the big ones are much more fun
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But it's rare to get such a big group together and not also have that thing where people leave while you're making the game and don't tell you
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yeah bigger groups are usually more interesting
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but also harder to pull together