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[Tylenol and autism.]


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https://hsph.harvard.edu/...

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This is the study that people are referencing. The way the title is written is so fucking purposely misleading and I'm just.


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1. Correlation is not causation! Correlation is not causation!!

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The fact that the first diagnosed case of autism was twelve years before Tylenol was invented

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"first diagnosed" we all know it has existed forever but people just stopped shipping their relatives to institutions in the war

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2. These mothers experienced pain that led them to use Tylenol. What if what causes the pain causes autism instead? The answer has not been found, only an avenue for exploration.

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: THAT IS THE IMPORTANT PART. Like. Services in the 90s were dismal. People thought girls couldn't have autism. With more education in place, of course parents felt more confident in having their children diagnosed.

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Asberger's was acceptable! But not autism!

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Reading the paper now and while I feel an obligation to point out that I'm one of the uneducated masses, this has the stench of "ecological fallacy."

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"why are so many more people diagnosed HMMMMM" idk jan did you know they put all the spectrum bits into one label so instead of many different fucking things it's just one name now? Also science helps us diagnose people Faster and Better, which we love for cancer

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I got a hate in me for this whole scenario

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People think there's been a definitive linking and it's just a review of data that overlapped itself (ie same folks polled in two separate studies, so the demographics tested aren't exactly diverse).

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every time we have the "why are so many people getting diagnosed??" discourse I pull out the left handedness graph

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gee, when you take away the stigma from something you find more people who have that thing and were otherwise hiding it

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"More people have IEPS in school and attend rehab services!" Yes, because we used to shove kids with high support needs into institutions and those who were allowed to live in their community never submitted themselves to a census.

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All the studies are from the last ten years. I didn't get diagnosed until I was 27.

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Almost like we got better at finding autism in afabs

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Tylenol is basically the only pain killer you can take while pregnant too so this doesnt.

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did you know tha every autistic person's mother breathed air during gestation? suspicious

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Pregnant people!! You gotta grin and bear it!! Don't find relief during the painful process of growing a human being inside of you or they'll come out WRONG.

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they're already starting the "what did you think women did before tylenol, they had the baby anyway" bullshit, as if childbirth wasn't (and still is) one of the most dangerous times of a woman's life!!

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they suffered, took more dangerous substances than Tylenol, often died...

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sometimes they both died

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and dad would just shrug and get a new wife and start again

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I mean, the root of it is even worse because it's treating autism like something worthy of being shunned when it's just... how some of us live?

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like... I guarantee life would be a lot worse for a lot of people if you didn't have autistic people hyper focused on things like trains and computers and medicines

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Look at Temple Grandin for fuck's sake!

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talking about us like we're a scourge or a waste or otherwise shouldn't be born is so fucking horrid

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also Sir Anthony Hopkins was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome which is now recognized as a form of autism

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and he is a pretty badass dude