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[genshintwt] [disc horse]
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setting aside the discourse over layla's eng VA being kind of a jerk because I ain't touching that with a ten foot pole, it's something
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to see people trying to cancel sean chiplock
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based on callouts made by PK of all fucking people
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I don't still have the tumblr posts but like someone who draws revenge guro and abuses their partners is like, maybe. not who we take the word of!
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I am like.
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I don't have the receipts so I don't want to wade into this but I am also like "AAA?" seeing them brought up as a source.
nihaowdy
i'm not touching this beyond this comment but hasn't genshin fandom already hounded the man so hard he got a permanent twitter ban for posting kaeluc adjacent gen art,,,
nihaowdy
BUT YEAH PK SEEMS. HM. IS THIS A TRUSTWORTHY SOURCE?
nihaowdy
not to immediately invalidate it, if there are actual trustworthy sources involved, wew, but the combo of genshin fandom having been out for his blood since day fucking one and PK
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the only actual callout I've seen is the one from PK and Victini so it's like, hm
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I am not gonna say fuckall on twt because oh hell no but.
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I needed to scream.
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nvermind, i had a comment here but i deleted
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(i just woke up and i'm very braindead rn)
a girl in love
I ONLY SAW ONE RT ABOUT THIS BUT PK DID THIS???????
HEART💖SHAPER🌠🐋🎻
PK still like, exists????
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a girl in love : YEAH SOMEONE ASKED ABOUT IT AND GOT LINKED A THREAD WITH CAPS OF A CALLOUT BY PK
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so it's not even first-hand callouts it's like third-hand telephone "sean chiplock is bad" bc another va was a little bit of a jerk and everyone lost their fucking mind
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(they qrt'd a fanart of a ship with a kind of meanspirited shitpost but the backlash was akin to if they'd personally told the artist to eat shit so it was a bit much)
Hamlet 3.3.87
havign gone down the rabbit hole of sean chiplock callouts this morning, i think a lot of people need their internet privledges revoked tbqh
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you're braver than I am
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how bad was it
Hamlet 3.3.87
somebody with a hateboner who every year or so comes back with a new worse allegation when they werent able to make the last "unforgivable crime" stick
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Things like: he mocked and belittled victims of natural disasters! (somebody tagged him with "if you're not actively posting about this earthquake we are watching and we will remember this" and he replied "okay")
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he sympathises with abusers and belittled victims (when a va in a game he was in got removed for being awful, he said "when there is a new person cast for the role, dont harass them for proximity, ok?")
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he's a furry! (he's a furry.)
paradisaea
oh is THAT what happened about the elliot gindhi shit they are accusing him of
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for fuck's sake.
Hamlet 3.3.87
Yeah. This was his comment on that situation
https://images.plurk.com/1ijil5lSeSpPuN0dzAIzuu.png
Hamlet 3.3.87
and that's....bad? somehow?
sleeping lion
yeah. his support of kaeluc that set this all off was he retweeted a completely rated G innocent art of them and their baby selves but it had the kaeluc hashtag on it
sleeping lion
the art itself was not shippy and it was like 2 weeks after the game came out so he didn't know it was a ship hashtag
Hamlet 3.3.87
somebody has a hateboner and will not stop
sleeping lion
maybe not 2 weeks but like. 2 months maybe
sleeping lion
yes he retweeted art by a kaeluc artist and the whole anti borg has been searching for dirt for literally over 3 years now because of it
sleeping lion
he DID say smash on Sayu in character smash or pass. as a sarcastic jab at the people harassing him.
Hamlet 3.3.87
they have at this point found him using edgy white boy late 00's slurs as a, you know. edgy white boy in 2009. So that was real, but also 15 years ago. So. you know.
paradisaea
christ alive.
sleeping lion
yeah he did say the n-word in jokes (iirc in the dipshit edgy white boy way of imitating the way he heard a black person tell the jokes) which was a genuine fuckup it's legit to not be willing to look past but also wasn't like. a history of open hard-core racism. but it was a thing that was Not Ok
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I saw the sayu thing and also someone holding up a no-context reply of his to someone going "hey show me an id before I respond" which sounds to me a lot more like "MOTHERFUCKER I AM NOT REPLYING TO MINORS"
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then evidence of. whatever.
sleeping lion
but I think that's the core issue rn cause it is a genuine thing he did do, and the VA who was rude to an artist and got blown up at is a black woman
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yeah...
sleeping lion
yeah evidently refusing to engage w/a minor is the same thing as engaging w/minors
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the narrative rn is "why is she getting yelled at when something something sean chiplock"
sleeping lion
ye I've been seeing a lot of it cause I follow him
Hamlet 3.3.87
i want to put them all in time out at the local senior center
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which when the accusation against him that holds the most water is something from....15 years ago....
Hamlet 3.3.87
different local senior centers. where they will have to interact with actual human beings that are not of their exact demographic.
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y'all.
paradisaea
Hamlet 3.3.87 : maybe just make them go to the library and read books and not be online for a few days
sleeping lion
I do think that purposefully engaging w/it, arguing w/antis and making jokes that pointedly antagonise them is not wise but I also don't blame him for not just sitting silently while they spread false accusations for literal years and got him banned once already
paradisaea
I have never accused him of being wise in how he engages with twt
sleeping lion
yeah he definitely fans the flames sometimes
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tho in this situation he literally cannot win
sleeping lion
but he also doesn't deserve the level of constant harrassment and. yeah
sleeping lion
literally nothing he can do will improve things for him and 99% of it is bullshit and the only actual thing he did wrong was only discovered by someone deep diving to when he was 19 because he unintentionally tweeted art by a kaeluc shipper
sleeping lion
so it's like. I don't entirely blame him for a certain degree of saying fuck it and biting back if it at least makes him feel a little better like hooboy
paradisaea
yeah.
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like I said I knew it was bad when people were citing PK as a source'
Hamlet 3.3.87
yeah, nothing's gonna make them stop. and i cant even say i'd be any different about it in his shoes
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sighs.
Hamlet 3.3.87
I watched both callout videos. the first one is 2.5 minutes long and the entire first minute is "legally, this isnt slander" disclaimers
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I only get outer waves of discourse on my tl but this one's been like.
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why.
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bring back the neuvifuri vs wriolette shippers again (do not)
Hamlet 3.3.87
i dont twitter at all, but sometimes i get too much energy and I go looking for the Discourse
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I am working on some sort of Unified Theory of Callouts, which goes along the lines of "the more steps you have to go through between finding somebody saying someone is bad and finding the exact allegation or infraction, the less likely it is to hold any water"
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yes
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the exception to this being if they open with "So we are being actively sued so here is some legal disclaimers"
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then you know that shit is JUICY
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we'll call it the illuminaughti clause.
Hamlet 3.3.87
true
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but when you get "he's an awful person! here's proof!" and the proof is a screencap of somebody else saying he's an awful person, and then you go hunt up THAT post and in a reply they tell you the keywords to google to find a youtube video claiming he's an awful person, and then THAT video is 90% other people saying "see? he's awful" and like 3 of his tweets
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that's just stalking at this point
sleeping lion
I think. and I'm sorry to focus on this part but since it happened in front of my salad when I was also in the thick of things, that the best summary of the terrible teenage mindset is they've been systematically trying to ruin Sean's life for 3 years over a hashtag but none of them quit playing the game when the official twitter retweeted ACTUAL ship art
sleeping lion
of the same ship
sleeping lion
like they did spam for it to be deleted for a week or so but then they moved on
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i see Brad's deep dive into the Sean Chiplock accusations got the same results mine did the one time I looked
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including "He's a furry"
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(still trying to figure out why this is callout worthy)
Hamlet 3.3.87
because they cannot tell the different between mild discomfort, reflexive disgust, and harm
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so anything that is even moderately icky to them is doing Severe Harm and must be stopped
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I'm so tired of people taking shots at furries, relatedly
sleeping lion
yeah same
Hamlet 3.3.87
yup
lotus 龙 wife
Hamlet 3.3.87 got what I was going to say re: disgust-based morality
paradisaea
i mean he speaks only truth
any other name
There is literally nothing wrong with furries why are people so fuckin weird about it
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