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controversial opinion but by the end of the 3rd jedi game cal should be either evil or dead i HIGHLY disagree, highly, highly highly cannot disagree enough with this one
goosetave
don't like that
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i think he will stray into the dark and it might be a little bit of a battle BUT i feel like that would be cheap when his story is so like - its about hope. and surviving and not giving up, but its about hope and i feel like that would just. suck. honestly.
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whats tired and done is taking a character who's dealt with trauma and pain and suffered a lot, giving them a tiny bit of happiness and then killing them off
goosetave
yes
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i think we're forgetting that star wars is about hope
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and things like. it made sense narratively for the rogue one team to die but i dont think that cal has to die to fit into things!!!!
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esp with things like tanalorr in the mix, when he and merrin can go fuck off into the unknown regions looking for ancient civilizations and shit
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which is my guess for the end honestly
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his journey started with unlocking the secrets of the zeffo so i think they will come into play at the end
goosetave
I would LOVE if the zeffo came back into the mix
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it would be narratively so satisfying to go full circle like that!
StupidSexyVโš der
I do think he needs to have face the Dark hard and rise
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NO
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I want him to struggle with the dark bc that's clearly where he's going
goosetave
he's deffo going to have to deal with the dark side more, but I think it would be more satisfying for him to rise above it
goosetave
like how cere did
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but I think putting tanalorr way the fuck out where no one can get to it means he's gonna end up there with merrin
StupidSexyVโš der
like not just is Star Wars about hope, about how no one is ever too far gone, it's about how the tinyest spark Light will ignite the and grow given the smallest bit of care and will destroy the Darkness
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they haven't crafted his story as a tragedy thus far imo
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like star wars is also predictable as fuck a lot of the time
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ben solo, let's face it, we all kinda knew what was coming
StupidSexyVโš der
yeah he did
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esp because I read recently that early on when adam driver was told the character arc, we were never supposed to get the full ben solo flip back to the light
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he was gonna double down on his stupid shit and die
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we have rian johnson, sheer chemistry, and loud fans to thank for what we got
skipthedemon
people really wanted Ezra to be Darkside when he returned in canon, too, and I'm like....why
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so yeah I don't think they've crafted cal's arc as "the hero fights valiantly but goes dark or dies"
skipthedemon
dead I could have lived with, actually
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also we don't have palpatine pulling Cal's strings
goosetave
yeah like cal's character isn't "dark"
goosetave
he struggles, of course, but he's inherently Good
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with Anakin and Kylo their real tragedy is they could have gone either way but Palpatine was there to give them the shove over the edge
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Cal has his own trauma and attachments
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but he's also not isolated and guided by evil
goosetave
he's not isolated and that is SO important
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and we've already had Cal's contrasts
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Trilla, Dagan, Bode
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if the message here is everyone eventually falls, what the fuck
skipthedemon
agreed
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so yeah I don't think Cal's gonna go dark
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I'm 50/50 on him dying
goosetave
I could see them killing him off way before him going dark for real for real
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I would honestly rather him die than turn darkside and evil because it would feel like a cop out.
goosetave
NOT THAT I WANT THAT
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I could be okay with his death if it's narratively satisfying and not a case of oh he goes dark and then must die to redeem himself
goosetave
please let cal live with his wife and stolen child and wacky alien uncle
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Yep. No redemption via death Im over that shit
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But Iโ€™d prefer their weird little family being together and safe somewhere yes.
goosetave
like even if somehow tanalorr gets compromised, let them escape to the unknown regions where the empire doesn't give a shit
goosetave
(I feel weird about tanalorr, like if it's going to be a safe haven that no one else can get to, then why is it introduced halfway through)
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I think they'll be able to hide some people away there
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and maybe they'll use it in Rey's trilogy
goosetave
oh that would be interesting as a connection
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oh there's a whole fresh generation of people who had former jedi parents
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but they've only just discovered how to get to this planet
StupidSexyVโš der
"with Anakin and Kylo their real tragedy is they could have gone either way but Palpatine was there to give them the shove over the edge" and EVEN WITH THAT, love brought them back to the Light
StupidSexyVโš der
that is star wars
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I think... Cal has a family now, and he doesn't have to be "the" Jedi; we have narratives of the lone Jedi hero. So his story could end with him living out his days on Tanalorr.
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and to give it weight it could feel like a big sacrifice, like
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you get to have your family here but you never get to see the rest of the galaxy again, or he's injured in some way that makes it impossible to be the hero but not to train kids
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honestly like for cal, that would be a great ending - for him it would probably feel like a sacrificce, having to step down and stop fighting -- or not, maybe by that point he will be at peace with himself enough to settle down
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either way him and merrin being alive and happy together with their strange little family unit is all i want
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he's been through so much!!!!
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anyway I pine for soft merrical things now hdu
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trying to write two more trilla tags like but... soft...
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i want to touch folkmore stuff but i will try and toss one of our fluffy things back at you
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ty ty
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Trilla's gonna reply to Vader and Hans tonight if it kills me
StupidSexyVโš der
have your family, be safe, but know the empire is continuing vs go down fighting the empire is a sacrifice
kiwi burgers
well they acknowledge it's controversial at least
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they did! i didnt feel like having this discussion on tumblr dot com with strangers tho lmao
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