
Master Chieve
[SM2] something that always bugged me a bit about Kraven, conceptually

Master Chieve
(Yes I know Kraven exists outside of this game in the comics but it’s where I know him from)

Master Chieve
But like

Master Chieve
Kraven is a cool fearless hunter

Master Chieve
Craven

Master Chieve
Is a word meaning “pathetic and cowardly”

Master Chieve
Like who named this character

Master Chieve
Why did you make his name sound like the word for pathetic loser

Master Chieve
It’s like if you wrote a big tough gladiator type who’s signature weapon was a big hammer and named him Bashful

Master Chieve
“BECAUSE HE BASHES THINGS, YOU SEE”

OneMoreTurn
Stan Lee and/or Steve Ditko named him. Kraven comes from super early in the Spiderman comics

OneMoreTurn
like, issue 15 early

Master Chieve
Kraven the craven

dragon time
A big bruiser guy named Bashful sounds pretty fun

dragon time
Gap moe

Friendpatine
You misunderstand; he's cravin' a good hunt.

Master Chieve
o ok

Master Chieve
My mistake

Le Comtesse
Once you remember that his full name is "Sergei Kravinoff", and think "how did they do Russians speaking English in the 60s", it sort of makes sense.

Master Chieve
Right but like he's not a real person

Le Comtesse
no, he isn't, but I'm pretty sure they came up with his name that way.

Rama
I feel like it comes from an anti-sport hunting notion of "hiding in a blind all day and shooting helpless animals is pretty cowardly", in a Doylist sense

Rama
In a Watsonian sense they just gave him a weird name that could be shortered to Kraven to justify it