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snake having friends, I know there's three of you, I need some help
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my client has custody of a ball python from an on going divorce. it's the soon to be ex husband's, who does no husbandry at all. she is looking to rehome it as he can't have it where he lives and she's unable to care for it.
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HOWEVER at the moment we have other concerns
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https://images.plurk.com/4nq1M7FF4JHfy8Ys19ybaQ.jpg tank
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https://images.plurk.com/2v9nM060yFLEr1lrxIqVcV.jpg heat rock
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https://images.plurk.com/5mxDBz3Lb8xcEDXID59GNQ.jpg , hide, with cube for size
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https://images.plurk.com/7D8SZ1w6gNLYk88Pk1G3Ve.jpg snake with cube for size
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rec me a better heat source, a better size appropriate hide, and she eats a small-medium sized rat.

how often however?
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Becky (I know you're busy but if you can help thank you, if not really 💯 ok) ➴ɨռȶʀʊsɨʋɛ ȶɦօȶ , SKELEREN (i know you are moving and it's not an emergency so take your time), Many mistakes
➴ɨռȶʀʊsɨʋɛ ȶɦօȶ
lllreptile
➴ɨռȶʀʊsɨʋɛ ȶɦօȶ
i don't have space for a snake but if you're looking for help with husbandry light resources etc lll reptile is the best place to get those items
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yeah I need husbandry help right now
➴ɨռȶʀʊsɨʋɛ ȶɦօȶ
in regards to regularity of food. every five days or every week.
➴ɨռȶʀʊsɨʋɛ ȶɦօȶ
what do the bowel movements look like? what is the state of the shed? is this ball python a male or female
➴ɨռȶʀʊsɨʋɛ ȶɦօȶ
how often has the snake bathed / been given water?
➴ɨռȶʀʊsɨʋɛ ȶɦօȶ
snakes are not my expertise but i'll do my best to help and any other questions i can field to my friend that is herpetologist and snake specific caretaker
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she just shed (i don't see any stuck shed), she has a bowl of water(she likes to hide under it) it a dog bowl for water, and it's been literally months.
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when I say the soon to be ex does no husbandry
➴ɨռȶʀʊsɨʋɛ ȶɦօȶ
well if she's had access to water and has shed she is not dehydrated.
➴ɨռȶʀʊsɨʋɛ ȶɦօȶ
but it's been a month since she's eaten?
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2 weeks ish
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(because he didn't wrote anything DOWN so we aren't 100 certain. and I'm like "...I think that way too long")
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Omg. I’m just... and he tried to steal the dog??? That asshole
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RIGHT
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I'm so mad!!
➴ɨռȶʀʊsɨʋɛ ȶɦօȶ
what a dick
➴ɨռȶʀʊsɨʋɛ ȶɦօȶ
yeah i would offer food again with tongs because of the change in location and habit you may have to try and get her to take it more than once
➴ɨռȶʀʊsɨʋɛ ȶɦօȶ
you'll have to warm the rodent in a bag in hot/warm water for her
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he wants to breed the bully mutt (she's a "pink nose") to another bully thing (supposedly with a vet's help which I call bullshit) to get a "purple nose"

MIND YOU: the dog is her Esa that's she's raised since a bottle baby and she's trying to train to be a service dog
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... yeah that a process. he only live fed her
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because "that what she likes"
Becky
a couplle of weeks not eating
Becky
is not a bigdeal for a ball python
Becky
you want an under the tank heater with a thermostat (get on amazon, made mostly for plants)
Becky
and ball pythons OFTEN stop eating for MONTHS around fall. Don't freak at that one. Get water, safe heat, and a hide on warm and cool sides of the tank first
Becky
and you can also buy fancy hides
Becky
or you can give her the box from a flat of ramen
Becky
neglecting snakes pisses me off extra. They're not hard
Becky
anyway yeah. Frozen/thawed. food will need to be hot. use water not a microwave. Use tongs. Do not stress it if it takes her... I don't know, anything less than 3 months to eat unless she's emaciated now. I know that sounds like a lot but even or snakes they're inicky and stress'll throw them but good
Becky
nd she's gonna be more finicky with husbandry having been off and changes
➴ɨռȶʀʊsɨʋɛ ȶɦօȶ
here's some info straight from my herp friend
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ok good. thank you so much
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and it pisses me off too
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SKELEREN
They are so much more helpful than me for this, bless! Snakes are not hard tho
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yes hello! chiming in to confirm that feeding a sm/md rat once per week is sufficient, especially if you're trying to transfer her from being live-fed. A few weeks, or even months, between feeds during a time of transitional stress is totally normal
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I try to have two water sources in my vivs - one big enough for the snake to completely bathe/submerge itself, and a smaller one so there's always at least once drinking water source they haven't pooped in! this also helps maintain humidity.
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there's a lot of back and forth about under-tank heating vs lamp heating. the heat mats can make it a little more difficult to gauge how hot the contact surface of the substrate actually is, but both are preferable to a HEAT ROCK HOLY SHIT
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coconoir bricks are an excellent substrate for retaining humidity
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definitely pile on the cover. This poor girl is so exposed! but ball pythons typically like for their hides to be a little on the smaller side - if there's too much extra wiggle room, they don't feel secure (go figure)
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I've found that it's often cheaper to buy fake vegetation from the aquarium section of petstores than from the reptile section, but ymmv
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live plants can be nice, but ball pythons are pretty heavy-bodied snakes, and they'll crush even a hardy plant like a pothos!
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at least the tank's a decent size (as far as the readily available in store models go) and the existing substrate isn't too thin!
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oh, it might also be worth grabbing a bottle of reptile water conditioner, to help neutralize any chlorine or other additives in your water that may irritate snake skin. They're like $5 per bottle, and a bottle will last you at least a year!
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https://images.plurk.com/2KSzAYzDLZS3t04mJEafNI.jpg
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thermostats made for controlling seedling germination are also WAY cheaper than thermostats for reptile husbandry, for whatever reason
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thank you
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if you live in an area with a reptile-focused STORE, sometimes you can buy fresh-killed feeder rats there. It helps the transition if they're getting something that was just alive like 20 minutes ago/is still pretty warm. Unfortunately I've only been that lucky in Florida.
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yeah I have to check the fed store
Snufkin
I'm glad you got some really great advice. Snakes seem more complicated than they really are, thankfully.
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Snufkin : me too.
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https://images.plurk.com/2WeKxUF7YR9cd1GaFSuTfE.jpg added more substrate
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(also tells us the amount needed to do the entire thing)
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Nice! yeah the volume adds up fast
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(another reason I like the coconoir bricks - they expand!)
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https://images.plurk.com/6aydfNBnVBzhjkieItL9v5.jpg cardboard hide that's about the same footprint but bigger on the inside due to shape
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https://images.plurk.com/257ZzL8ywMEZ3RlNhg7HYy.jpg empty glove box with a hole in it for another hide
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DID find the humidity gage, moved it to a more readable spot, she sitting at 70% right now
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so the stuff I added was 8qts. I think I would need 4 bags total to do a total change, so 32 qts?
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and the bricks are 7-8 quarts so need 5 to be safe
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Yup, those usually come in 3packs for $12-15!
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awesome thank you
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if you want to source any branches, sticks, or rocks from the outdoors, just chuck 'em in the oven at 250 for about an hour
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that'll kill any stowaways
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(although don't do that with sedimentary rocks, because sometimes those, uh, pop)
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cool that's good to know
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snek enrichment! on a budget!
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note to self and client, enclosure is 35l x 17w
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Flukers Jumbo Heat Pad for sale
this is 11 x 26 so that should work to make a warm and cool side? asking for advise
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Yeah, I use the X-large corner water bowl for soaking, and then just a small heavy ceramic dog bowl for drinking/humidity (since they can't easily flip those and usually won't try to squeeze in now that they're 5+ feet)
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I'll leave the heating pad input to other folks - my setup uses a radiant ceramic panel in the ceiling
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yeah she would be able to afford that
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wouldnt* dammit phone
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https://images.plurk.com/41wWu8ujTmkpeg64p09RAn.jpg my new offering of hide has been accepted!
➴ɨռȶʀʊsɨʋɛ ȶɦօȶ
if she's already open to you changing her habitat and environment you and her are doing better than anticipated.
➴ɨռȶʀʊsɨʋɛ ȶɦօȶ
if no live feeders can be found ( I always suggest checking your local Facebook groups for reptiles for this ) you can buy the frozen store feeders and heat them as I suggested above.
➴ɨռȶʀʊsɨʋɛ ȶɦօȶ
reptilinks are also an option but are more expensive. the benefit to them is that they contain the vitamins etc
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/nods
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I'm going to try to get her on frozen/thawed/reheated since it's safer for her and I think she will? I hope.
Snufkin
/crosses fingers for it to go well!
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thanks
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https://images.plurk.com/1YMQXjjI9BK8SzSocIJqAZ.jpg https://images.plurk.com/7cU51jgxNkpQnUBVvGOtrH.jpg it looks better?
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she sense to like it, poking her head into the substrate and exploring. there was a LOT of the mulch bedding but it was all so compacted and hard
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Snufkin : NO FEEDING PROBLEMS!
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I pulled the rat (in a sandwich bag)out of the hot water bath and took it to get room and toweled it dry a little over the terrarium to throw up some scent and she popped her head out. used a hair drier to dry it some and heat the skin up and she was like OH HUNT? HUNT! used the tongs to offer it by 'running' it on the substrate and she snatched it right up
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she does (always) make at least two attempts to eat the rat from the hip? before correcting herself but hey
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➴ɨռȶʀʊsɨʋɛ ȶɦօȶ
yay congrats!!
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I was excited!
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MAJOR MILESTONE!
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like no hesitation, right for it
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branches and leaves are undergoing cleaning. I found some good ones
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