Mrs Sheepie
something that's hilarious to me, especially as evidenced through the cr memes and subsequent commentary recently
Mrs Sheepie
is that people who like John? tend to really struggle with getting along with Arthur
Mrs Sheepie
not that it's anyone's specific fault, like. it usually ends up being like One Bad (Formative) Thread or Arthur being Arthur about something
Mrs Sheepie
but my god it's so fucking funny
Troy👻McClure
that's how it was with Lark and Alec. People loved one and always HATED the other
Mouth Powers
Jedao has not given up on being friends with arthur but he's taken a minute to lick his wounds lmao
Mouth Powers
oh my god you know who Jedao and Arthur remind me of
Mouth Powers
J1 and Steve
Mrs Sheepie
(even better is that it also works in reverse. people who start off liking Arthur take longer to warm up to John. lookin at u dorian)
Mouth Powers
I can't currently explain this you just have to trust me
floofdoodle
Sweeney likes them both (but John is clearly the favorite)
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(it's not i just couldn't resist)
Mrs Sheepie
(HONESTLY ITS CLOSE THO)
Mrs Sheepie
(you have to work a lot harder to win back Arthur's trust than John's, and he doesn't forgive)
Mouth Powers
J1 was like. theoretically I respect Steve immensely and we are good friends. in practice they could usually go 10-15 tags before Jedao was wildly aggravated but trying to be chill about it because Steve makes 'oh I always make people angry because I'm too principled' his toxic martyr trait
kates!!
and then there's Dorian
Mrs Sheepie
dorians a special cookie
kates!!
both of these boys are freaky in their own way and that's his jam
Mrs Sheepie
Mouth Powers at least Arthur is like "I make people angry because I exist, so I may as well do it unapologetically"
Kota
Sheehan in the middle like "I adore them both!"
Mouth Powers
honestly it's weird, J2 is harder to aggravate than J1 in some ways
Mouth Powers
its not that J2 is more patient because J1 sat in a torture box for 400 years to do what he needed to do. but J2 is more used to getting a lot of resistance and confusion from people than J1 was - he went from being a wildly charming rising star to a wildly intimidating legend who could always get an angle
Mouth Powers
whereas J2 is like 'i'm a baby and everyone thinks I'm Space Bid Laden, what'
Mouth Powers
also I get the feeling that...for all that they poked each other a lot in the sharp spots, Jedao is so very careful about being fair when he's angry, and Arthur is so transparently Cares Too Much, that neither of them have like...fully burnt bridges? like I don't think Jedao has done anyting to put himself into Unforgiven territory with Arthur
Mouth Powers
just Awkward Enough to Avoid Forever
Mrs Sheepie
there's embers flying around but their bridges are sturdier than that. bc Arthur can at least recognise now that jedao is trying to at least be reasonable despite how massively upset he is, he's setting boundaries and Arthur has to respect that if nothing else
Mrs Sheepie
neither of them seem to know what to do with each other, haha
Mrs Sheepie
or at least Arthur certainly doesn't with Jedao
Mouth Powers
like honestly. they've been able to have a very heated fight in a shockingly mature/adult way?
Mouth Powers
they've both got some misinterpretations and misconceptions going but neither thinks the other is a bad person
Mouth Powers
jedao doesn't know what to do with that either but he thinks that's worth doing something about
Mrs Sheepie
jedao isn't Arthur's first port in a storm but at least he knows he's a stable one
Mrs Sheepie
delightfully, the fact that Arthur is willing to go at it with jedao with teeth nearly fully bared and the risk of losing massive face is actually a remarkable level of trust
FʀɪᴇɴᴅIɴYᴇʟʟᴏᴡ
it IS
Mouth Powers
at one point Arthur said soemthing like "despite what you think of me, I still care about you" and Jedao was stonewalling about another thing at the time but on the side it was very much
Mouth Powers
! Jedao will remember that
Lady Stardust
I would very like to read these threads
Mouth Powers
Mrs Sheepie
yeah arthur has like fully internalised the "we're just coworkers" part so he fully believes jedao doesn't care about him, but he knows jedao cares so he's still willing to make the effort
Mouth Powers
jedao couldn't even tell you if he cares about Arthur. (he does, but he's very confused about it.)
3D🌺triangle.
Oh my god it's true
3D🌺triangle.
Natalie likes Arthur, but she ADORES John
Mrs Sheepie
natalie doesn't count, john was her warden, lmao
3D🌺triangle.
even before then!
FʀɪᴇɴᴅIɴYᴇʟʟᴏᴡ
I do think it's because Most People will assume getting to know the eldritch horror is the Harder One and that clearly Arthur is X to have made John such a little goober
FʀɪᴇɴᴅIɴYᴇʟʟᴏᴡ
meanwhile Arthur is Violently Y and also doesn't want friends
FʀɪᴇɴᴅIɴYᴇʟʟᴏᴡ
and people think John is kidding when he says "oh no, Arthur's difficult as shit"
Mrs Sheepie
arthur also makes an effort to present himself as a Reasonable Polite Englishman, which has the wonderful side effect of making people think he's a pushover
anstaar
i was going to say that i think it's funny what the presentation of 'Reasonable Polite Englishman' meant to Nathaniel, and i do. but i also think it's funny that for similar reasons Fitz reads at as a reason to be wary of him
Mrs Sheepie
honestly fitz has him dead to rights
Mrs Sheepie
reasonable means "excellent at self-justifying" which is why he was going to carry a severed head around if he didn't get fucked stabbed
anstaar
fitz looks at arthur & john and is like. yeah. i know this one.
anstaar
danger levels: 'reasonable' englishman > eldritch being who appears as a 'reasonable' englishman > eldritch being
Mrs Sheepie
'Reasonable' Englishman who's had to deal with an eldritch being and everything that entails, and has still come out at least presentably sane
anstaar
fitz doesn't present as particularly polite or reasonable, which is how you can tell he's much less of a threat
FʀɪᴇɴᴅIɴYᴇʟʟᴏᴡ
John is just a simple creeture
Mouth Powers
hilarious to me that Arthur took Jedao's "we're not friends" comment so personally while currently giving a lecture to John that's like "if you're a grumpy bitch all the time, no one will bother you, this is key"
Mouth Powers
like buddy guess why Jedao doesn't think y'all are friends. go on, guess
Mrs Sheepie
man you don't even know how many layers deep the hypocrisy runs
Mrs Sheepie
by the time s3 rolls around he has just straight up outsourced his conscience to John in its entirety
Mouth Powers
Jedao is totally willing to be friends with people with terrible morals! he was friends with daniel
Mouth Powers
but he's not going to try to force/pursue friendship on someone who clearly dislikes him
Lady Stardust
I love everyone
FʀɪᴇɴᴅIɴYᴇʟʟᴏᴡ
John is the soft one and he's the eldritch entity of corruption of madness
FʀɪᴇɴᴅIɴYᴇʟʟᴏᴡ
big golden retriever energy
Mrs Sheepie
big Spiral-ly golden retriever
FʀɪᴇɴᴅIɴYᴇʟʟᴏᴡ
persnickety but tripping over his own enthusiasm for everything
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