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Soft Saturday fluffy things you want to do in RP or fluff questions ?
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Not necessarily fluff, but I'd love to see Ten and Oppenheimer cross paths (and if I'm not mistaken, wasn't there some throw-away reference somewhere, about Nine and the Manhattan Project??).
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Hm. Could be fluff in the existential hurt/existential comfort sense.
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I dont think I would know if there were references
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Hm. Might have been some odd thing somewhere on the wiki or my mind might be misremembering it.
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the wiki says there was something but its in a comic
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with 9 in pictures of the Manhattan Project,
Subject_013
Ooooh....
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I mean, if it ain't part of the continuum as you see it, that's cool!
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and IVe had this talk before; how canon are the comics
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I would have to dig into this
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9 - might have said something in World War 3
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but yes sounds like a plan :-D
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so guess Im watching farting aliens tonight for a throw away line
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/snrks/ The things we do for the love of our favorite canons.
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I know 11 didn't say anything in Cold War
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but 11 did meet Albert
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so thats a thing to rewatch ^
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its a Children Fountain short
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I know 4 did bury a nuclear weapon on Earth
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Either way, it would be nifty as anything (and considering how many scientists and other support staff were involved, Nine could have easily been another science-y face in the crowd).
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:3
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yes, and this is something to figure out anyways
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because we might get this character in Lab
Subject_013
Oppenheimer underestimated a lot of things, including how many people they'd need on the Manhattan Project.
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and generally glancing over the wiki its what I thought it is
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its a face thing
Subject_013
He figured they'd need a few dozen scientists and a couple hundred support staff.
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about nuclear weapons
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The Doctor's own attitude towards the Manhattan Project remained more nuanced. A number of his later incarnations expressed disapproval at the deployment of the atomic bombs
Subject_013
They ended up with several hundred scientists and several thousand non-science-y personnel.
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but there's only two TV epsiodes in this whole wiki :x
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its a lot of maybe canon
Subject_013
Oppie would approve a nuanced approach: he ended up having a mega-heck-ton of regret about the bombing of Japan and was dead set against hydrogen bombs.
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The Nolan movie plays up the regret, even suggesting he may have regretted the Manhattan Project itself.
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but that also implied it was probably PRe Time war
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because of the following sentence
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and that fits because 4 was nuanced
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Don't want to spoil the ending of the Nolan movie, but it beautifully yet horrifically depicts that moment of remorse.
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anyways gonna start with the 11 short and go back to 9
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and now I am wondering when 11 met Einstein or what face did
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okay so Albert knew 5
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and thats right 4 did claim to have met Albert
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timey wimey wibbly wobbly
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but that was insightful that clip; Albert does know of other faces of The Doctor
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However, with regard to the Manhattan Project itself, the Doctor seemed more accepting. The Seventh Doctor expressed revulsion for the fate of Hiroshima and the future nuclear proliferation, but he was nevertheless willing to assist the scientists with their calculations and root out groups seeking to interfere with the Project towards nefarious ends
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^ comic
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but Im gonna watch the farting aliens and see if that is implied
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but that does seem like a very 7 thing to do
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based on my limited stories Ive seen
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this is what I do sometimes you all for researching stuff
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okay! farting aliens time!
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Subject_013 but I literally just rewatched Cold War so I know theres nothing there
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Subject_013 anyways yes I am up for stuff :3
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That said I do feel like if 7 or 9 or both
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helped on the Manhattan Project
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I feel like it may be sorta a Pompii thing
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Subject_013 and I need to make stuff up apparently
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9 is very knowledgable about where that nuclear sub was though
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like he knew the code for it
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LMAO
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Jackie wants to have tea with 9 and Rose
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and 9 is all - NOPE
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ask 10 Jackie he will do that
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Subject_013 so! I have some headcanon to chew on
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or rather what I want to consider canon from the wiki page
Subject_013
Awesome!
Subject_013
Vincent Gogh : Manhattan Project as a Pompeii moment sounds very likely.
Subject_013
Though there is an exchange in the Nolan movie (based on some actual math that someone in the project worked out) where there was some concern that the Trinity test could ignite the atmosphere.
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Leading to a conversation between Oppie and General Groves (the military leader of the project on the likelihood of That Happening.
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Groves: They're saying there's a chance that when we push that button... we destroy the world.
Oppenheimer: [dismissively] The chances are near zero.
[Beat]
Groves: [flabbergasted] Near zero?
Oppenheimer: What do you want from theory alone?
Groves: Zero, would be nice!
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(Not a spoiler, as it's in at least one version of the trailer)
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I'm tempted to canon review, though that means digging up someone's camera rip of the movie or waiting till it drops onto Prime Video or the DVD version drops.
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Speaking of things one does for love of canon.
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Oppenheimer | New Trailer
<- About the one minute mark is the convo re: the possibility of atmospheric ignition.
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I will watch when its out on stream
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Im not giving the movies my money because idk if the actors are getting anything atm for their movies
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idk how their union works
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but I know our union we dont get paid when we're on stirke
Subject_013
Yeah, I was on the fence about going to the theater, however, since it's a Christopher Nolan film, I figured seeing it on the big screen was for the better, since he really knows how to frame a film for it.
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...I almost opted to see it at the one IMAQX theatre in our area, except I heard there's been some strange things happening with the IMAX projectors while showing this particular film.
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?
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...Apparently the film is so physically big that it's causing the projectors to break.
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interesting
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Like, the film itself is 11 miles of 70mm film from start to finish (I mean, it's a three-hour movie), and the platter for it is like six feet across.
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So some IMAX projectors are legit just breaking down from the sheer size.
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