The Doctor would try to save everyone and use reason first with the recuse and if that didn't work - well 
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The Doctor would try to save everyone and use reason first with the recuse and if that didn't work - well
The Doctor would try to save everyone and use reason first with the recuse and if that didn't work - well
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If he did that, Wes would be somewhat taken aback. "Doctor... I did not expect this side to you.
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XD
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it completely depends on how unreasonable the thing that took Wesker or anyone is
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there's such a scale of that
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but I got tired of saying the same thing to many plurks
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Yeaaah, considering Wesker is almost a one-man army and immortal on the "absurdly hard to kill" sense, it would have taken some ingenuity from someone very dangerous and intelligent to capture him.
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And then contain him.
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or something that could null his abilities
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its not a question how powerful the thing is
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or piece of tech
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its how reasonable or unreasonable those beings are
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Good place to start being a serious overdose of that weird serum he requires to keep his mutations from running off the rails.
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sometimes they're trickable; with just someone's rambling
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and this is Doctor Who so - just kidnapping a person isnt the entire story
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Like if this was your character kidnapped by Daleks (idk why you're not exterminated on spot) it would be A LOT of chatting
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but like Cyberman they'd be destoryed
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Indeed.... the driving question is 'why' this person and for what purpose...
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and how reasonable or not the being is
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Daleks you can talk too but Cybermen dont care for talking
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or a giant snake creature that isnt all the smart but is powerful
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then talking is worthless
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but if the snake creature is very smart and talks via telepathic than there's a conversation
kingdonkey
Klaus gets kidnapped by someone and they’re like, “TAKE HIM BACK!!! PLEASE!”
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LMAO
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the Daleks or Cyberman?
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Idek
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daleks would be confused on why you dont stay dead
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but the thing with being turned into a Cyberman is
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they take out your bits
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Ahaha. Right? “Oh, hey guys”
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So - there isnt coming back for Klaus?
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they take out your brain and put that in a metal body
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but its implied they just like to take out the other stuff first - just - cause
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to be honest; I think after The Daleks shot Klaus a few times and saw he kept coming back
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they might think he's a Time Lord XD
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and thus take him captive
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to be honest if Klaus's canon ability worked in Who-verse
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Klaus would be mistake for a Time Lord
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and that isnt a good thing
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and because of the Time War
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most beings in that universe know
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that a Time Lord has 13 lives
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Im sorry Klaus
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And this - is why Jack played dead when the Dalek shot him
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captain_flyboy
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kingdonkey
and The Master- he would know that Klaus isnt a Time Lord
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but kill Klaus just for fun; over and over
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Like The Master did do to Jack for an entire year
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Im sorry Klaus this is a unvierse that would indulge in killing him just because they could
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oh okay that comment makes more sense now. I was like what plurk??
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Mmm its very situational
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He dont just go in and blow crap up xD
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IDEALLY
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The Doctor would want to sneak in and sneak out
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but that doesn't really happen so -
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because even if he did manage to do with that with Jack ; lets say
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whatever has Jack, i.e, The Daleks, The Master
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they cant just go and allow destruction of an entire world or galaxy
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so Im sure The Doctor could sneak in and out of a jail cell for someone
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but then theres the bigger picture
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But do try to keep the element of surpise while gathering as much intel as possbile
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and then theres the downside of saving someone who isnt good at being sneaky
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so they'd be discovered and end up running and most likely both captured
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xD
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rose
you didnt think The Doctor would just go did you?
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XD
Nicholaj
I'm not sure this scenario will come up in Lab but I'm curious. If during the Doctor's intel gathering he found out that Arrakis was captured because his very existence is a threat to the world, would the Doctor still try to save him?
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yes
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thats his friend
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you're acting like The Doctor's existence isnt a threat to the universe
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he's not gonna change his mind unless Arrakis willfuly does something at that level
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this is the same thing with Essek
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unless Essek does something willingful that is threating to a vast majority
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its all good
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You are all allowed to have another chance at life
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this is also WHY 10 lectures so much
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He does try to convince the attacking aliens to think about what this means and try to be better
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Doctor isnt judging anyone on their past actions
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he's judging everyone on their actions right now
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hakuna matata
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that all said
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Ten does also try to save his enemies
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:x
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and he's very sad that they choose to not come with him and live
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with a few expectations
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but Darvos, Dalek Sec, The Cult of Skaro, The Master, Professor Lumic, Mr Finch, Cassandra
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There's some level of trying to reason with them, try to change their mind or try to save them in the end or all three of those
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Point is he has extended to save his enemies
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and then he also completely implodes his enemies and brings about their destruction
Nicholaj
I love that about the Doctor and Arrakis won't know what to say. His magic isn't natural and it's slowly damaging the world so he wouldn't blame the Doctor for choosing not to save him but he would also be so happy that he's still chose to.
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;3;
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I mean - if they were in Arrakis's universe
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The Doctor would try very hard to figure out how Arrakis's magic would not slowly destory the world
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maybe figuring out to rid Arrakis of his magic entirely
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but that would also be Arrakis's choice
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or putting Arrakis in a bubble universe - wait isnt that game setting? XD
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but he'd try to be clever if he was in Arrakis universe so he wouldn't have to make that choice
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because the needs of the many do out weight the need of the one :x
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and he tries so VERY hard - for everyone to win
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which is probably why he burns out :X or a reason
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But if it was the only way; he would not be happy having to Arrakis out of his misery so that everyone else could live >:
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BUT - we're not in Arrakis universe setting so
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but if The Doctor's hand got forced that way; killing Arrakis would be on the table to save everyone else ;3;
Nicholaj
yeah the mage's existence is a difficult dilemma. They know they are slowly destroying the world but they still want to live and feel guilty for it, especially since their world was destroyed trying to cut off the magic cycle completely by sacrificing their world to save the universe as a whole.
Nicholaj
It didn't work since the mages survived so Althiya was sacrificed for nothing.
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this sorta sounds like the Time Lords on some level
Nicholaj
lol that's a fun coincidence!
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them wanting to surivie to the put where they would have Inifinity gauntlet the entire universe and become higher forms of consciencness
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no its not because The Doctor doesn't want to have to genocide an entire species Again to save the universe
Nicholaj
yeah, in Arrakis's world magic isn't natural. Humanity's imagination, and the desire for there to be something after death, accidentally created a pocket dimension and a magical entity they called the nameless goddess. (people believed names hold power so they never gave her a name)
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anyways he wont have to make this choice in game and he won't hold Arrakis accountable for what someone is
Nicholaj
she's trapped in her dimension but she wanted to give the people that created her a gift, which is how the first mages were created. Over time she wanted to interact with the real world more and she slowly added more magic into the world, trying to break the barrier between her world and the real one.
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the world can only handle a very small amount of magic though and even that is slowly destroying the natural laws of the world. Magic originated on Earth but the mages were exiled to another world, Althiya in order to protect Earth from the dangerous magic.
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One of the last mages before Arrakis's generation (there can only be one mage of each element at a time) found out the truth and decided to take it a step further and eliminate all life on Althiya so the goddess couldn't create more mages and therefore end the cycle for good. However Arrakis and his friends escaped so that plan failed
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yeah luckily they won't have to make that choice in game
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I mean the only solution would maybe be The Doctor being able to communicate to her and asking and reasoning with her that what she tried to do will now; slowly tear apart space and time
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and ask her to take away their magic so they could at least still live
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but yeah; Arrakis is in a bubble universe where that wont be an issue in theory
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they'd be powerless but at least they could be alive and not slowly eating space-time
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this is the Time War all over again >.>
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at least on beings eating apart space-time
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Nicholaj
the battle between the Time Lords and Daleks
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since both sides could time travel
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The Daleks stole it from the Time Lords
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the rinse and repeat was slowly burnig space and time