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[dog book etc] opens up bag of salt.
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TIPS DIRECTLY ONTO THE GROUND
Craftyviking
Most of Europe uses the FCI groupings I believe.
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In which Dachs has the own group
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Which is just banans.
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But that is politics for you
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I am 0% surprised
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literally none of this ever makes sense and its just for power and money
Craftyviking
Yep
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Often old stuff
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Yeah its done a lot because when you are bringing in a new dog breed
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its hard to show and win against more established breeds
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and then you gotta like, shove it somewhere else so it can have a chance
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aka why the fucking SHIH TZU is in the fucking UTILITY SECTION
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and not the TOY SECTION
Craftyviking
Yep.
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I stumbled on a really fucked up conversation where this dude like questioned this stuff and also like breed purpose
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for his Great Dane
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Great Danes in the US are listed in the same grouping as huskies n shit if I recall correctly
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NOT in hunting hounds
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when they are in fact, hunting hounds
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he asked why he wasn't allowed to let his dog particpiate in the tasks more suited to its breed profile and got like SMOTHERED SO HARD OF LIKE "WELL MAYBE YOU SHOULDNT BE IN DOG SHOWING, ASKING QUESTIONS LIKE THAT!!!"
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it was the most culty shit I ever saw jfc
Craftyviking
Heh, In norway there are some sports (water rescue being one) where only some breeds can officially compete. But we let other breeds unofficially compete. Hunting is not one of those. My dad is a tracking/blood tracking judge and he has stories of little poms doing amazing out in the woods
Craftyviking
but yeah there are a lot of toxic people on dogbook. I hear horror stories from my spouse
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I mean they are Spitz dogs from the same grouping genetically as Elkhounds and Huskies, I am not surprised even slightly
Craftyviking
Yep
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But all dogs can track.
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Or rather all breeds can, not all dogs have the drive
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yeah I know what you mean
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all dogs can scent track, just some dogs are like thats cool, ANYWAY I WANT A NAP
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stares at my senior staffy who has the scent drive to find the spot on the couch thats it
Craftyviking
Yep and then you have dogs like one of our old dachs. She tried to cross a raging river to follow a trail of a deer
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And dachs are not the best swimmers out there
Craftyviking
She was the blood tracker. Most laid back dog ever until her tracking harness came out
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cries softly
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god I love Dachs
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I miss working with my sausage gang SO BAD
Craftyviking
They are great little dogs. Big attitudes and personalities
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needy cranky babies that wanted cuddles 24/7 non stop and were fully ready to throw hands with the german shepherd at all times lmao god
Craftyviking
There was also the male hunting dog. He could never be off leash because he would go hunting any time of year and continued until he ran himself bloody.
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stares at my big silly hunting dog that is not Very Good At It but also Wants Too So Bad
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which like full preface, I will admit, the more I study the history of dogs to write this book the more I want to throw breeds into the trash as constructs of anything other than the 1800s eugenics thoughts that spawned them so thats my bias
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but it is funny watching my big noodle boy that is like from the new type of hunting farmer mutt in aus that gets such strong, IMMA HUNT but also is like :[ why is it so mean to me when I catch it :[
Craftyviking
Hehe
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Our lagotto boy is very much a lagotto in that mudpuddles are the best and sniffs are even better
Craftyviking
Our old poodle man thinks that water is wet and the couch is better.
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he's irish wolfhound and bull mastiff and greyhound stock primarily so it hits SO HARD
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But that might be an old man thing more than a poodle thing
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our cocker spaniel puppy is pretty sure he likes water but is still working out the swimming thing and isn't so good at it yet
Terana
my yorkie puppy wants to murder so badly.
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stares at yorkies
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yes that checks out
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anyway I am not all the way there yet but I am finding a lot of descriptions that says we actually used to prize resource guarding in toy breeds for domestic purposes and that SURE EXPLAINS A LOT
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also dogs probably created the first round of classicism divides RIP but it also goes further to prove that hunter gatherer was more gender equal than previously speculated because of animals natural preference to women over men.
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and I gotta get the rest of my mesolithic stuff on early domestication of the dog together because right now its so everywhere as far as the info goes ack
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(go figure for mesolithic honestly)
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including one gravesite find where the dog was buried with the owner but the dog just ???? doesnt have a head ???????
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WE HAVE NO IDEA WHY?
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I love history
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the person clearly loved the dog, they were buried with the dog ON THEIR CHEST
Terana
oh that's cool, the possibilities there...
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just the head was gone????
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and when I say I love history its the sheer unknowableness that is always hilarious and confusing and it happens so much that you just go like 'ah yes, early humans like modern humans: making no fuckin sense ig"
Terana
yeah, you find where that head was placed and it would tell you a lot
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IT SURE WOULD
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AND WE JUST HAVE TO LIVE WITH NEVER KNOWING IT AT ALL
AND WE JUST HAVE TO LIVE WITH NEVER KNOWING IT AT ALL
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because we are. never. finding that head. we are lucky to have found such an intact grave find from 30,000 years ago of a person let alone a single dog skull
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there is also the mass frog grave which I think about daily