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110 % THIS
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I still feel that the 3 hour 60th special WILL address everything here
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yes you heard me
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its been confirmed to be 3 hours
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also think Neil being who we all think Neil will be (yet to be officail)
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Will play a big hand in reconning The Timeless Children
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because think about who Neil might be and that could be a very useful plot device if used right
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oh and RTD lied about one of the specials title
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because the real title would give away the main plot
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Wild Blue Yonder is not the real title
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anyways RTD did watch Chinners run so - he knows
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and I do think RTD is establish 15 in the first epsiode
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he did it with 9 and 10 after all
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and this also vocalizes why I dont 13 ISNT an appable character to be honest
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not Jodis fault she was given crap to work with
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because she is if 10 and 11 merged together
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she never trutly made her Doctor own/ distinguish
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but she got bad writing and I feel for her
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rewatching with lunayoshi Im still going
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Thats a 10 thing; thats an 11 thing
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and rinse and repeat
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or general Doctor thing
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and The TimeLess Children really worked against her in the sense that - it basically hit the reset button her with rediscovering herself
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they had something at the end of Woman Who Fell to Earth and idk what happened to that
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and in WitchFinders I felt like I saw her
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but thats about only when
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but otherwise still felt with rewatching her a second time
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Oh thats 10
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Oh thats 11
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Oh theres 10 again
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and Im rewatching 11 atm so it really pops
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and its frustating because why did she have to get bad writing :|
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Don't even get me started on them not knowing who the fuck 13 was supposed to be when they wrote her! Even I had a hard time figuring out who she was in her second and third seasons, and I had such a strong grasp on her character that I rped her for a while. BC
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She went from having a set personality to being...a big wall of Nothing Distinctive.
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Except "Oh, no, woe is me, who am I? I have no idea who I am. I am le sad! Always le sad! Did I tell you I am sad?" Without it having any real work put into it to show where it was fucking coming from! They just told us she was sad without explaining how she got there.
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If that makes sense.
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It's also been...a hot fucking minute since I watched her shows, because I literally watched her two seconds seasons all of one time each time and then never again.
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/HAS. OPINIONS./
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Like. All that shit they were coming up with in those seasons? Could have been really fascinating. If they actually did something with them. But they didn't. They just dropped these huge retcons and plot devices in our laps and said "Oooooh, you care about this, right? Isn't this shocking???" and it's like "...No, not until you tell us
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enough about this twist that we can even begin to get an idea about what it fucking means." But they didn't.
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They made me so irritated with the way they ended her run that honest to God, even with David being my favorite actor and RTD being the one who wrote his run so I'm sure it'll be good, knowing he's coming back for another run as 15 is just...making me feel more pandered to than actually excited? Like they're saying "shit, we fucked this up, huh?
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Welp, we hear you bitches like David! Here's more David! Does that make it all better?" "Not until you tell us how this solves. anything."
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I'll still watch it, though, because I desperately want it to go back to being good. ;_; It used to be the only thing I got excited for on television.
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Though holy shit, a three hour episode??? It had better be good, if they're gonna make me sit through a Lord of the Rings-length feature film.
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Because let's be honest. That's no longer an episode of the show, that's an entire movie.
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I know you have thoughts huuuuuugs
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You did a lot better 13 than Chinners and that was like halfway though season 11
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Well I mean RTD did buy the rights to Who so he might have said 'shit we fucked this up'
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To be fair; those chanting no more David some are those who didn't like him in the first place
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Shocker; I know but there are fans who don't like David and thats okay and he's okay with it
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3- 1 hour epsiodes; yes
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so yeah it is sorta a LOTR film
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which is why I suspect the length is to fix A LOT of stuff
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But I am all upset too because Chinners had to MESS UP the first female Doctor
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and then you look at what Moffat did with the female Master and it was brillant >:
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BELIEVE me I understand the frustration but Im watching because someone wants to catch up
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and there are a handful of her stories I still do watch
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only a handful though
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It just - sorta boggles my mind because Chinners has worked with Jodi on Boardchurch
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so its - like
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wheres the disconnect?
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outside of Jodi saying she hasn't watched Who before
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^ she said so on David's Podcast while she was filming
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so I do think that in of itself sadly is part of the lack of depth
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she doesn't know how to responsed to like Jack saying 'Rose' in that epsiode
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she's not every other Doctor who grew up watching Who before and that - that really shows in her performance :x
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and why her reactions are - off
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so her being the first one to have never watched the show before taking the role
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yeah :x
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so I think thats also a part of her 2D ness
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and also her reply to Jack not having a room in the Tardis
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they're little things but they're really big because they're call backs
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and she always flops them
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Jack totally had a room in the Tardis with 9
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Like for instance instead of being busy
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She should have given Jack a pointed glare about mentioning Rose
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to show that it still hurts
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But Jodi doesnt understand the context of this stuff so she cant fight her directions
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Chinners just said 'you are the truth in the room'
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and yes she is but theres MUCH more to that
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but you RP her VERY well because you were RPing her how she SHOULD have repsonded to that stuff and didnt
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But yeah look up David Tennats Podcast with Jodi from years ago
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and thats where she says she hasn't watched Who ever
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ANYWAYS I feel your general frustration they did our first Female Doctor dirty
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and if RTD had been writing her she would have been specular!
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RTD probably would have made Jodi watch 9 - 12 at the very least
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because it was like - Aang in the live action Avatar Airbender say he's all alone but there was no understanding in saying that
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no understanding of the subtext ^
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tronja307020 but yes the 60th is going to be 3; 1 hour parts so basically a total of 3 hours
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we do not know the main plot of this as of yet
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its for sure not Donna
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if you saw the latest trailer its SUPER obvious who Neil will be announced as at some point
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which probably goes hand and hand with the main plot since they havent announced who, Neil is either; offically
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BUT it will be interesting with David because he's already hinted he's not gonna fully be playing 10
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so it will be VERY interesting to see a 10 where all of 11, 12 and 13 stuff in the head for 14
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according to the toy of 14; the majority of the personality is 10
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there's a few differences
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its like - a maturer 10
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and we know David will play his Doctor like he's been though Amy, Rory, Clara, Bill, etc
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so same face but more experience
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But there are people who dont like him as The Doctor and it is what it is they are very shouty
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which I get tired of these people hating on any Doctor
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because the the point of Who is to not hate others
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you don't have to like that Doctor; its fine if that Doctor isnt your cup of tea but no reason to be SHOUTY
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Those are the people who dont belong in Who Fandom to be honest ^
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You missed the point of the show about forgiveness! Get out!
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Im not a big Jodi or Peter fan; am critical about certain aspects of their Doctor
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but I dont hate on them for getting the part
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they have the resume to have the part
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that should be aknowledged
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and the aspects Im critical about - isnt their fault its Moffat and Chinners
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tronja307020 anyways! there are people who don't like David and they were around back in 2006 if you look at interviews David did then
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and believe me or not
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There are people who dont like Tom Baker
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I cant find the video from 2007 atm but
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https://images.plurk.com/6V52KIzoTgspV7sZkRic40.png
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thats from the video in 2007
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basically Im not surprised they're making noise
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and again we still dont have the main plot of the 3 hour special
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hoping that drops at SDCC
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we just have bits and pieces
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omffffggggg plurk deleted this whole paragraph I'd typed.
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But yeah, I was actually one of those people at the very beginning because I didn't know any better, I didn't know about regenerations when I was watching Chris' run, thinking because it was on scifi channel that it was an American remake of this apparently very important piece of English television history, and here they were, killing off the main
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character????? How dare they! (LOL) And then I looked into it more and realized "Oooooh, no, that's just the whole thing, ok. My bad!"
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But yeah, I just do not understand the people who know what Doctor Who is and then still act that way, hating on the new guys even though the entire show is about learning to accept and live with change and have great adventures while you grow as a person and overcome insurmountable obstacles!
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And three one-hour episodes makes more sense lol Ithought it was going to be one three-hour episode. XD
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to be honest I feel like these types of people are in other fandoms and make the same hate :x
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Oh, like Star Wars for example?
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any really but yes
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Yeah, fandoms can be so toxic sometimes.
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its just a small amount of people though that do it
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thats the thing
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sometimes I do wonder if its the same people in different fandoms
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they're the jerks just to be jerks people
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aka the same slime that is on Wankgate
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because most of the time its just dumb because they dont want you to like a thing because they dont
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or will debate pointless when that other thing is also canon too
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certain people cant agree to disagree and Idk why
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especially with canon ship wars
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see why I rant there should be consequences for saying stuff online
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we'd have a less toxic internet
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because somehow the loud ones are the toxic ones who can't reason
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anything that you can comment on the internet about ^
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Some people are just broken, somehow. And they take it out by hurting others.
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yeah and thats that sad part
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