duck bastard
[self dx/cancer tw] "huh, what's this tab i left open last night before I fell unconscious - oh right this dumb shit"
duck bastard
some idiot was whining about self dx - the usual "this is why no one respects people with actual dx" and "makes people avoid seeking the medical treatment they need"
duck bastard
which is unremarkable
duck bastard
but what got everyone was the stupid ass statement of
duck bastard
You would never "self diagnose" cancer would you?
duck bastard
cue everyone going are you stupid, self screening for cancer is often how you find cancer
ᴄʜɪʟʟᴇᴅ ᴄʜᴀɪ
ah yes I saw that like hm, it's not like... They tell us to self-screen between annual visits if concerned or anything....
Dragons Dragons
headdesk
Dragons Dragons
what is wrong with people
Gayple
yeah I think I said that to the guy
Cookie Politics
god, anti self dx people are so stupid for so many reasons
Cookie Politics
firstly, literally any planned visit to the doctor as an adult that isn't just an annual physical involves the patient going through what they've been experiencing, which more often then not does include research they've done on what it might be
chris 🧸
no one goes, "hmm, I think I might have cancer" and then DOESN'T go to a doctor about it
Cookie Politics
literally that's how my last meeting with my gp went, I told him what I knew about the skin rash I had based on the last time it came up, and he used that to help determine what it was
Cookie Politics
secondly, every single time they pitch a fit about self dx, it's always about people self dxing mental health or developmental disabilities, which are a far cry from "cancer"
Cookie Politics
like, do you know how diagnosis of those things go? the patient gets asked some questions, and if they match enough checks, then they get the label, if they even determine a formal dx will be useful
Cookie Politics
this isn't something you do lab tests for, it's literally just observing with your eyeballs
Cookie Politics
thirdly, the "treatments" aren't medication, or even physical therapy, they're like, mental health coping techniques which are generally helpful to anyone, not just autistic folks or people with clinical depression
Cookie Politics
and even if you have a formal dx with a doctor, these are generally things you're going to be doing on your own anyway
Calliente
Yeah, and like...mental health shit is usually something you HAVE to at least suspect yourself, or someone in your circle has to, because you have to REQUEST TESTING for mental health issues?? Unless things have changed significantly, things like autism and ADHD and depression aren't just routinely scanned for in people???
Calliente
So at least tentative self-diagnosis is REQUIRED
Calliente
Also, getting officially diagnosed with autism is something I've seen some autistic people argue AGAINST, because it can be used against you when arguing your mental competence? iirc
Calliente
ALSO also, I have heard that you can go to two different specialists and get two conflicting diagnoses about whether or not you're autistic, so like...it's not foolproof
Calliente
It's true that you shouldn't just go on WebMD and diagnose yourself with whatever you read about there because, like, for one thing usually a doctor will be able to run tests that can CONFIRM a diagnosis, but also trying to do the job of a doctor from online articles is hard to do and can lead you to scary and potentially very incorrect conclusions
Calliente
(There are so many things that can cause a headache, for instance, and a doctor can better look at all the evidence, compare it with their medical knowledge, and go "it's likely this based on these factors", while a search for headache causes online will give the exact same weight to, say, brain tumors and clenching your teeth while you sleep in the results)
Calliente
But also 99% of the people who complain about self-diagnoses AREN'T talking about those kinds of people at all
E.S. Levi
I self-diagnosed ADHD...and then when I brought it up with a psych and we went through my symptoms, she went 'yep, that's ADHD!'.
E.S. Levi
And people who do have rare disorders often have to self-diagnose, since doctors don't often consider them unless they have very distinctive symptoms, if they've even HEARD of them.
E.S. Levi
Because doctors are trained to assume it's not something rare, and generally don't put much effort into studying conditions they'll 'likely never see'!
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