๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
when ur 700 pages into a bookโ€ฆ it must be close to the end, right?
Psi
In Les Miserable you're less than half way through (aaah)
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
man i've read les misรฉrables but i don't remember it being that long. but then i didn't think this book was super long when i picked it up.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
1024 pages, apparently but a lot of that is going to be backmatter. (that's my secretโ€ฆ the biblio can be 20% the pagecount.)
Psi
Les Mis is around 1500 pages! Unabridged
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
my edition was about 1200, but it was a cheap paperback with small font.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
i don't think it was abridged, because there were definitely the parts one would think to abridge still in there. i also read it like, 20 years ago and apparently have misplaced my copy so i can't check.
Psi
About 20 years ago is when I read mine yeah
Psi
I think it was Signet Classic version?
Psi
It was gray and paperback
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
yeah mine was the old penguin classics, which apparently they have a new edition/translation out.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
may pick that up because apparently i don't have a copy anymore.
Psi
I think Penguin was abridged? But Deluxe isn't? Oh who knows. If abridged it's less so than other ones I've seen 500 page versions of Les Miserables.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
don't think abridged, just think differences between book size.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
this also reminds me that i was like, 60% done with war and peace and actually really into it, but i left my copy on a train and i haven't yet brought myself to try reading it again.
Psi
I have never bothered tackling that monster I admit
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
I am not touching Les Miserables (which I apparently tried to read in French in 9th grade) unless it's an ebook. I know better. My wrists know better.
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
(Note: I was a pretentious teenager and have no active memory of this, but my friend Paul mentions it from time to time, and I'm just like, yeah, that sounds like me at 14 or so.)
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
meanwhile one month and change to the
book release of 2o23
three
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—! : japan binds novels in 2-3 parts to make them easy to take on the train and i wish everyone would do this.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
anyway the current book is a people's tragedy by orlando figes and i am, in fact, reading it on my ipad even though i have a physical copy from the library.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
i will probably try to read more about the russian revolution but it's one of those topics where a lot of the scholarship has an obvious political slant.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
figes's seems to be: "everybody sucked, in different ways"
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
he has some political sympathies for the liberals but is pretty disdainful of them individually (and he also seems to have a grudge against richard pipes)
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
(that is, from what i can tell, legitimate)
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
anyway i figure i'm close to the end because not only is it page 700 the whites have now been defeated, so surely there's not much left?
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
three : I have a very small edition of Middlemarch in two volumes! Hardcover with a slipcase. Also a very large edition of The Tale of Genji in two volumes, but it only sort of helps.
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
Other than that it's not too common and I wish it were, but I think it has to do with bookstore stocking and what American consumers are like and so on.
direwolfenoot
I read les mis when I was staying in the south of france for a month, I carried it around everywhere we went like a fool
direwolfenoot
I mean it wasn't as bad as the textbooks I had to carry back and forth in high school
direwolfenoot
and middle school
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
Yeah, that's the thing. When you're constantly carrying about 25 lbs of books (and when I was this age, wheeled backpacks were not really a thing yet), The Brick is not really so bad.
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
Everyone had these giant twill Esprit tote bags
direwolfenoot
kids had wheely backpacks when I was in high school but that was just not a thing we did. it didn't help that my school had a ton of stairs
direwolfenoot
I used one of thosse dumb kate spade black messenger bags until it became too uncomfortable junior/senior year
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
I am willing to posit that the huge textbooks and Esprit tote bags are why Gen X has back problems
direwolfenoot
I think everyone has back problems tbh
direwolfenoot
although the current kids are probably getting them from horrible gamer chairs
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
https://images.plurk.com/6aX0oB7r1zS7BDPEz7qrf1.jpg this was never a good plan!
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
oh i 100% fucked up my back in middle school because i refused to use a wheely backpack because they were uncool and i was in middle school
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
but like, i couldn't run between classes because i might tip over and spin around on my ludicrously heavy backpack, like a turtle
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
I got a Jansport late in high school but it was Too Late For Me
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
At least that had nominally padded shoulder straps. I went around with a canvas Monk's Bag for a year or so also.
three
ooooh, i also made poor messenger bag choices. until i moved to Japan in 03 and then i just had to carry those bags that were school uniform
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
Sort of like a school satchel, similar to a messenger bag style with a deep gusset for books etc, but canvas. No padding.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
when i went off to college my mom gave me this gorgeous old coach messenger bag and i wish i knew where it went because it was a great bag.
direwolfenoot
https://imgs.plurk.com/QCZ/2Sz/3xDIujxSUZ4s56pyxNNTZMOB0af_lg.jpg pov you're a girl in 7th grade in 2004 and you have like six full sized textbooks on you at all times
direwolfenoot
https://imgs.plurk.com/QCZ/fM0/WTn2z8le4ElyRSM1xf4BzJuIbyX_lg.jpg like this actually
Lassarina
Oh god I did hideous things to my back and shoulders in high school
Lassarina
Also I also got about 60% through war and peace and was enjoying it and then I put it down for some reason and kept forgetting and now I would definitely have to start over.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
and i'm mad about it!!
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
https://images.plurk.com/3ai2WBjysa8OrNDH1Dh3kZ.jpg https://images.plurk.com/9F3rTYHA3y1lm9J7muygk.jpg https://images.plurk.com/15jCVywmM9fdwFqJJWw7kJ.jpg
heck yes free religious whackery in the apartment lobby
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
vintage 19th century antipopery, the power of the public domain!!
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
let us not discuss exactly why I am using that emote and just assume that people will get it after they read the story.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
this is gonna be my deep dive tomorrow, i think
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
I read that Samantha Irby essay a while ago and whew have I been on both ends of that
direwolfenoot
actually I just want people to reassure me that deep existential anxiety is an appropriate response to the bachelor
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
Because it's not just "my taste is basic" -- it's also "my taste is relatively highbrow but not as highbrow as Jerkface McGee's" or "someone with basic tastes is being shitty in the same way in the other direction and calling something I like pretentious and boring"
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
"I like it!" works for all of it because who the fuck cares what makes someone else's little heart zing
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
i mean, same, i'm extremely pretentious.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
but "i like it" is powerful.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
meanwhile: i finished a people's tragedy somewhere after page 800.
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
Did Orlando Figes reply in a salty manner to your Amazon or Goodreads review
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
ends on kind of an ominous note about how authoritarian nationalism threatens to overwhelm russia after the collapse of the ussr.
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
Have I been saving that joke since you started it? Yes.
๐š๐ฏ๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ข๐ง๐ž.
that's SUCH a fucking good joke about Figes
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
i mean he just might!!
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
Ominous note is ominous though
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
figes trying to take down putin via sockpuppet.
๐š๐ฏ๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ข๐ง๐ž.
i have SUCH mixed feelings about a people's tragedy
๐š๐ฏ๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ข๐ง๐ž.
beyond figes being a piece of work
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
i'm not upset i read it but he's got clear sympathies and a conclusion i'm not sure i'm onboard with, even as an extreme nonspecialist
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
but i wanted to read a one-volume general history of the russian revolution, so what you gonna do
๐š๐ฏ๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ข๐ง๐ž.
LMAO and like, frankly, it's a GREAT book for that
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
yeah it seemed like the best one.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
i kind of want to read his crimean war book for a similar reason.
๐š๐ฏ๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ข๐ง๐ž.
it does a great job of putting all of the pieces together and really mapping out that like, at any one point someone could have made a decision that steered clear of the revolution until there wasn't any more chance for decisions to be made, but i think the fact that his open sympathies for the man voted most likely to have deserved what he got make it a
๐š๐ฏ๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ข๐ง๐ž.
really jarring read in some ways.
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
direwolfenoot : also, here is your reassurance, yes, that anxiety is valid
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
i feel like gorky is the hero of the book. also, i've never seen the bachelor.
๐š๐ฏ๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ข๐ง๐ž.
it is really, really hard to be sympathetic to Nicholas once you learn about all the chances he had and how he always, unfailingly, continually, made the opposite choice even when told it's a bad idea. SO LIKE, I"M NOT WILLING TO CHALK IT UP TO HIM BEING A BETTER FIT FOR A HISTORIAN THAN AN EMPEROR.
๐š๐ฏ๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ข๐ง๐ž.
but also he makes his GAs write his books and never gives them credit so
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
oh, i didn't think it was very sympathetic towards nicholas at all, but i also paused reading the book for like, a year, so the parts fresh in my mind are after he was out of the picture.
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
/wanders back to The Guns of August, where I get my opinions, even though I should not.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
i still should read the guns of august.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
anyway he does say something like "nicholas was thriving in captivity, living the life of an english bourgeois" but i read that as quite contemptuous, because figes fires so many shots at the british it's obvious he's one of them
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
honestly the same could be said about historians
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
which is funny, consideringโ€ฆ his whole deal.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
lol orlando figes
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
i think "LMAO" is a fine summation.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
anyway you know who was also bad? wilhelm ii.
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
listen, you'd be bad too if you and your mom never got invited to cool summer vacation cousin bonding times
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
started + finished the ballerinas by rachel kapelke-dale, which i thought would be more of a thriller.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
it's fine, but the mystery is almost entirely a product of how the book is arranged (one present timeline, one flashback timeline) and it's much more just about sexism, body issues, and competitive friendship in the ballet world.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
the narrator is french and the book takes place in paris, but the dialogue is in english for some reason? it was confusing to me. i mean i don't expect the dialogue to be in french like war and peace but figuring out what dialogue was supposed to be in what language was difficult. it didn't usually effect the plot but it might have.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
anyway back on my bullshit:
https://images.plurk.com/6dGe4p8MsfJaSIuRr7WeE6.jpg
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
finished american politics in the early republic, i read this before once a long time ago and it's interesting to return to now that i have a better understanding of the "classical republicanism vs republican liberalism" debate in early 90s historiography.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
i've actually read the machiavellian moment, now!
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
all in all it's an almost completely inconsequential debate that nonetheless carried on bitterly for like a decade.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
i'm also more than halfway through fears of a setting sun and i think i will finish it today.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
i feel a little hoodwinked by itโ€ฆ did i buy a founding fathers centric popular history in disguise? i still can't tell?
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
it was published by a university press and the author is a professor but he's a poli sci professor. the thing this book reminds me of is "leadership in turbulent times" in that it examines a theme (in this case, collapse of faith in the republic/republicanism/america) through biographical sketches. it's quite readable as these things go.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
but i think i was hoping more a broader survey of political doomerism in the 1790s and conspiracy thinking vs individual intellectual journeys of e.g. hamilton and adams.
direwolfenoot
tricked by the federalists
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
the monocrat catalines
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
one thing about being me is that everyone gifts me whatever founding fathers biography is currently in so i got both a jefferson book and a sam adams book for christmas.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
(cw: suicide for the above link)
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
i've been thinking a lot about online hate groups, lately, and the dooce story is related to that.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
and by online hate groups, maybe the gentler way to say that is, anti-fandoms? basically places where community is based around disliking something or someone.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
there's a nypost article about GOMI that i won't link becauseโ€ฆ nypost, but GOMI is a blogger snark site that many influencers feel bullied by.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
honestly maybe what first got me thinking of this is either the caroline calloway documentary where she called her haters from the anti-caroline calloway reddit, or that one instagram personality that hired a PI to track down some of the people in her deranged subreddit.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
and i've honestly always thought of antis like, oh, they're young, let's hope they grow out of itโ€” and a lot of the stuff i do see from antis still reads very "i'm 15 and i think sex is icky but i have no idea how to voice that"โ€” but it's also clear that the compulsion to build communities of hatred isn't just a juvenile impulse.
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
it's obviously a powerful way to build connection, and it can really warp your reality.
๐–—๐–Ž๐–Œ๐–๐–™ ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–•๐–Š๐–—!
I think a whole lot of it is also just envy that turns into Bitch Eating Crackers stuff -- like, "why is she getting attention? she's not that special. she's not that perfect. she's not even interesting."
๐”ฐ๐”ฒ๐”Ÿ ๐”ฏ๐”ฌ๐”ฐ๐”ž
yeah. it's like, bitch eating crackers, but then you force yourself to watch the bitch eat crackers and get real mad about it.
MRS SEPHIROTH
yeah... wankgate is probably one of the oldest comms on dwrp
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yep!!! and anticirclejerk or whatever existed before that.
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Maybe leaving people alone is the better idea! (But if you say this, then "well, if she wanted to be left alone she shouldn't be seeking attention.")
MRS SEPHIROTH
it's definitely a strong sense of envy and needing to punish someone for "making them" envious
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i've definitely seen people on my timeline who may have done something wanky once and thenโ€ฆ for years when they're not doing anything anons post "updates" or whatever.
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very strange!! why!!
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part of this is me trying to hash out what my own boundaries should be. like, i have, in my time, made fun of caroline calloway. and importantly, a lot of these people do and say bad and hurtful things.
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the need to feel like they're doing something about a problem, the fact that other people are real kind of slipping their minds for a bit
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i'm thinking of that vanlife influencer againโ€ฆ if i recall the story, she asked for donations because her dog was hit by a car and made a big tearful post about that
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I have definitely made fun of Caroline Calloway but tbh I have always found her mess kind of endearing.
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but left out the detail that she was the one who hit the dog with the car, because she let the dogs run beside the van
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so obviously, that was a drama!
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(Also, when I say "problem" I mean that the problem is that they feel some kind of way about something and cannot sit with the discomfort without acting on it.)
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but i guess some people stayed on that drama beat for like, a year afterward, and had a subreddit dedicated to harshly analyzing everything she does
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Instead of the obvious: she was very foolish but the dog doesn't deserve to unnecessarily suffer for it
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and hating something that obsessively is still giving energy to it
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yeah, i can get people who donated feeling lied to (since there was a big lie of omission) but really the money did go to helping the dog, who was hurt.
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or another one is hilaria baldwin who hilariously pretends to be spanish even though she's not. there's a lot of things wrong with that, but i can't imagine needing to think about hilaria baldwin again.
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and yetโ€ฆ
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and i think it makes it a lot easier to fall into a weird hatespiral when you have a friendgroup that normalizes that.
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and i mean, of course it can be fun to jump on an online dunk parade.
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hell i laugh at some of the great wanks of rp yesteryear
direwolfenoot
brooey deschanel's celebrity culture video gets into anti bullshit in a way I find helpful
The Systemic Abuse of Celebrities
direwolfenoot
tbh like it is so easy for making fun of someone for something valid to slide into making fun of their aesthetic or whatever in a way that feeds harmful narratives. but also I feel like it is so easy not to do that
direwolfenoot
but there's a difference between people getting out of line about twitter main characters and true antis. like once you have made hating something part of your personality and daily life how do you come back from that????
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okay this is the van life influencer i was talking about.
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and in finding this i also found the meghan markle hate sub:
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the idea that people need to be receptive to legitimate criticism is actually terrible. it's a norm in the rp community too. i think it is true that you should always be willing to listen to thread partners expressing their discomforts & boundaries. but a lot of the time it means "you should listen to how i hate the ship you play and thank me for it"
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i think you all are right that jealousy plays a big part of it.
direwolfenoot
maybe I am tired but I am having trouble thinking of legitimate criticism of meghan markle that she could do anything about
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yes lolโ€ฆ i only copy it because it's what they always say to justify their behavior.
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they are entitled to legitimate criticisms
Pinky Hood
Maybe it's a sign that I'm getting old but I will never understand why anyone would spend this much time and energy on the internet hating anyone. A whole subreddit about hating Meghan Markle?
Pinky Hood
I'll admit, one of the podcasts I listen to every week will sometimes do an episode about an influencer who turns out to have done a legitimate crime like scamming people out of a ton of money but they don't harp on one person like some people do. Yikes (unsure)
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yeah, blogsnark isโ€ฆ i'm not going to call it a positive good, but it's noticeably less toxic than r/saintmeghanmarkle for two reasons. 1) it is strictly moderated and 2) it has a wide and not singular focus
Pinky Hood
Yeah, that's different
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anyway i'm definitely at the age where i don't want to make "liking things" my whole personality, but i definitely don't want "disliking things" to become a lifestyle.
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i do recognize on some level it's helpful (and soothing) to have an outside source to blame everything on? when i was a teenager i decided isaac newton was my archnemesis and i would blame him for all my petty disappointments. this was cringe, but probably harmless.
Lassarina
this is going to sound woo new age whatever, but honestly, I think that making negativity a focus in that way means you stop seeing good in other things
Lassarina
and then it becomes this spiral of badness and being angry and unhappy all the time for, often, avoidable reasons.
Lassarina
I'm not trying to say toxic positivity, because that's equally bad in its way, but I think when you go out looking for things to be mad about and people to attack, you're doing yourself a lot of harm too.
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no, i totally believe that. that's the problem with doomscrolling, imo.
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I also think that can be a chicken or egg thing -- if you are on the lookout for stuff to be negative about maybe there is something in your own life that is making you unhappy and that you could address? Or maybe you can't address it, but wallowing in negativity as a coping mechanism is not really going to offer more than fleeting satisfaction.
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It's probably going to make you unhappier in the long run.
Lassarina
yes
Lassarina
it's kind of.....well, you tend in broad strokes to get back from the world what you put into it
Lassarina
if you put in the energy to be a good friend and help people out, on average, people will help you out when your turn comes around
Lassarina
(exceptions exist and sometimes bad things happen to good people and bad people get unwarranted boosts, but in my observation, etc.)
direwolfenoot
yeah I think this comes back to creating a toxic environment
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speaking of toxic environments i finished 'fear of a setting sun' and am on to:
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i've read the first two books in this trilogy, so let's keep going!! taylor suggests in the preface they should maybe be named: american colonies, colonize harder, and colonize hardest
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finished! god, am i really going to read what hath god wrought next?
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i planned on this being my last american history for a week or two but i kind of want to read what hath god wrought
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the library has a copy to permaloan basicallyโ€ฆ
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ooooh i bet they have empire of liberty too
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i haven't actually read thatโ€ฆ
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obligatory for a mention of gordon wood
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recent book pickups c/o multnomah county public library, big nui , and neighborhood free book box
big nui
i hope you enjoy jimmy olsen and also priory but mostly jimmy olsen
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it's from the famous jack kirby run
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I will be the very last person to have read Priory (I own it, I just haven't been in a position to finish it)
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i'm just borrowing it but she's thick
MRS SEPHIROTH
She's thick but she is a delight
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putting this here because it's 100% because of all the books, link
Shards-giving
Impressive!
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usually i do run into words i have to guess on toward the end but not this time
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anyway i'm most of the way through what hath god wrought now, and i can report i needed to look up words reading it
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mostly theological terms (the antonym of "postmillenialism" isโ€ฆ)
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despite that it's quite readable, if you are looking for a whig revisionist view of andrew jackson and his consequences
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(it's very anti-jackson and upfront in its opinions)
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i have half a mind to read a pro-democracy take to balance it out but i will finally break from nonfiction for a little bit after this.
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yeah that sounds about right lol
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