Beans
[justin roiland and all that entails]
Beans
https://imgs.plurk.com/QCW/Vfv/8Ly01v9q1lqA4Hia6XX2BZuuGa5_lg.png
so apparently roiland was so easily let go and replaced because he just. did fuck all
Beans
besides voicework
fastest mario
"notably its first with female writers" is a sentence fragment that creates far more questions than it answers
fastest mario
I'm assuming the 'writers' is the new part and not the gender of who was harassed but maybe roiland really wanted to ride the sausage train?
Beans
considering one of the early facts of the show was justin literally drinking in the booth while ad-libbing, it's entirely possible that he was a bother to everyone
fastest mario
i can't believe justin roiland made a gorillion dollars by having other people animate his exploits as a terrible fucking person
fastest mario
the fact that he seems more and more like rick as time passes is just. ghoulish
VanityPhroject
oof
bad feminist
i always had bad vibes about this guy and hate that i was right, but i hope this means the staff is free of a burden and uncomfortable presence
Beans
it appears that's the case, since Adult Swim, Hulu, and his own game studio Squanch Games have all let him go
Beans
seems like they can all do better without him
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i love that people were like "but how will we replace him!!!" as if 1 out of every 10 people innthe US doesnt have a mostly accurate rick and or morty impression on hand as a party trick
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PARTY TRICK
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FUCK I THOUGHT I TYPOED PARTY RICK BUT I DIDNT
HotXC
you got tricked by party trick
VanityPhroject
yeah, like. Roiland's got a pretty distinctive voice, but there is an entire industry of people dedicated to mimicking and recreating character voices
trek
people can even recreate his humor on the same scarily accurate scale as people who write modern seinfeld
trek
like very easily replaced
VanityPhroject
especially if he apparently wasn't actually that involved on a creative level
trek
ngl i always thought he just did the voices and dan harmon did everything that would require like
trek
being funny
Beans
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Beans
okay but yeah you're right it's. easily replaceable
Beans
because roiland's vocal range is like
Beans
1. variations of morty
Beans
2. rick
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LITERALLY
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THE STUPID FUCKING GUN HE PLAYS IN THE NFT GAME? MORTY
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EVERY CHARACTER IS MORTY and then there's rick
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i also assumed he was only a part of the voicing and not really the humor especially like. the more R&M progressed from the humor of the pilot/s1
Beans
yeah I think that's the case
Beans
early R&M/the interdimensional cable bits leaned more into letting him ramble drunkenly into a microphone until funny things fell out
Beans
but I think the show is more writing-directed since then
trek
everything actually good about the show screams harmon's direction
VanityPhroject
Lemongrab is my favorite alternate Morty
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agree
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roiland also strikes me as.. like
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you know how jimmy pesto's va got revealed as being a shitface and you just KNOW he definitely didn't get that jimmy was the bad guy/someone you should look down on
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roiland doesn't seem to get that half of the reason why R&M is good is becauase of/when rick's shit choices are called out and the family wins instead of him
VanityPhroject
...isn't he, like, explicitly a villain protagonist, have I been mislead on that
trek
meanwhile harmon gets it bc he's like "acting like that has ruined my life several times"
Beans
harmon 100% understands who rick is
Beans
to the point that he's like. actively talked about how rick is not a role model to look up to
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if you have a brain then he's explicitly a villain protag, but like, the vocal part of fandom is made up of people who like Roiland, do not get it
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but that exact sentiment from Harmon is exactly why Rick only seems to win when he goes against his selfishness, and why every other time no matter how stupid it is or how "meaningless" it is, the others win
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I think the biggest memory i have of that circumstance is Morty going on about how sure what the fuck ever life is meaningless in the end but it means something now and i'm going to go hang out with my family because that means soemthing to me
and then the episode closes witht he family like taking care of each other while rick is a loser in the garage
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it's explicit in that way, but some people don't... think that hard???
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they just see "Rick did a thing I think is cool and/or said something that reinforces a bias I already had, thus he is to be idolized"
VanityPhroject
oh, I knew a bunch of fans, like, unironically think he's great, I just figured it was more explicit in the show
VanityPhroject
in the show/to the creators
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i mean sort of in the fact that it's a part of the storytelling. but there's a lot of people who will argue that if something isn't said outright in full clarity, i.e. no one says "Rick, you're the villlain of this" then it's not canon, it's just interpretation
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and like i mentioned with JImmy Pesto's VA, and uh. fuckin
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the VA of the guy from Squidbillies
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there are a lot of talents in those positions/playing those characters who do not see themselves as playing an antagonist
Beans
mental disconnect can be wild
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like how do you spend so long playing a character who does nothign but get dunked on and still think they're like. something to aspire to
Beans
because the only parts people remember are his "rick and morty for 100 years" rant and talking about how god isn't real and nothing really matters
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viugshfiguh yeah. yeah
trek
pickle rick as an episode basically sits you down and explains this it's like that wow cool robots meme
trek
wow funny pickle man
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YEAH
Beans
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shit i wish my last name was loveness
It Nyanka
Ah... Yeah. That's an interesting revelation. I never cared for R&M's brand of humor myself...
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