sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
oh no. the top raiders have run into the buff/debuff limit. (basically, enemies and players only get affected by a certain amount of buffs and debuffs, and the rest are 'wasted')
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
no more dancing
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
no gundams allowed...
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
Like I know this has been an issue for a long time but it seems so weird that it never came up in playtesting this fight
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
That's a huge oversight
ωαℓєω∂єя 👑
maybe its intended, time to raw dog the dps check!!!
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
snorts
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
gundamnit
Many Birds
oh geez D:
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
RELATED: Somehow, phase 5 has leaked. Like, an employee or a hacker (though likely an internal employee) has posted video of phase 5.
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
in godmode, so
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
solo in golden swine suit
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
Yeah it's uh
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
not good
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
the hammer is gonna swing HARD on someone
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
I only watched a few seconds of the vid past where Otter's last pull went but shit looks legit
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
Wonder how long till we see a lodestone letter about this because this is way more than datamining the final boss model or that screenshot we got from an intermission phase in DSR
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
And just how much it's gonna help proggers. Like, you can't see the buffs/debuffs but you can still see shit going out in the order it's supposed to so you have an idea of what to expect but. yeah, didn't watch a lot of it
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
I hope the letter does tell us if it's internal or not. Because as somebody who uses third party shit for accessability... mrgrgr.
Tonberry King
I've seen the limit hit in 24 player things. didn't know it could happen in 8 player.
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
omega uses a bunch of different buffs/debuffs, it seems
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
Yeahhh, guess it didn't really show up in any 8 person stuff before since there wasn't enough buffs/debuffs from the boss but Omega just absolutely does a bad breath equivalent of them here
Tonberry King
I mean, if there's any boss in the game that is perfectly justified in using stack overflown against the party, it's Omega
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
LOL I mean where's the lie
𝑅𝒶𝒾𝓃𝒾𝒹𝑒𝑒𝓇 🦌
i was wondering if it was, in fact, intentional, for that very reason re: Omega would absolutely do that shit. it would mean ofsetting your own, possibly blocking out the boss' de/buffs, etc.
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
If it's the latter, it's a puzzle mechanic no one on stream has solved yet. and imo probably not the best mechanic to put in the game since it shines a massive spotlight on an actual code limitation
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
that's been complained about before
ωαℓєω∂єя 👑
To be fair if any boss's mechanic is to take advantage of the limitations of the game, Omega would be it
ωαℓєω∂єя 👑
Using the meta factors of the game itself against you to overwhelm you
Tonberry King
^^^^^^
𝑅𝒶𝒾𝓃𝒾𝒹𝑒𝑒𝓇 🦌
as long as they don't pull a ffxi dev and change how Omega is fought because raiders do something else to beat the boss instead of the way the devs intended
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
Honestly unless it's something really extreme like an exploit I doubt they'd pull an Absolute Virtue
ωαℓєω∂єя 👑
Yeah they tend to be less shitty about that then the ffxi devs.
ωαℓєω∂єя 👑
Like they havent fixed the safety spot in hades ex
ωαℓєω∂єя 👑
no idea if that exploit was intentional or not but it doesnt seem like that was meant to be the way to beat it
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
Oh def not
ωαℓєω∂єя 👑
Yeah so I think unless its game breaking or w/e they typically don't change things
𝑅𝒶𝒾𝓃𝒾𝒹𝑒𝑒𝓇 🦌
i love C for Cheese spot in Hades LMAO
𝑅𝒶𝒾𝓃𝒾𝒹𝑒𝑒𝓇 🦌
but yeah i'm glad they aren't XI devs from ye olden days going "well you didn't do it the way WE did it so we're patching it so you HAVE to"
ωαℓєω∂єя 👑
Yep I lived through that
ωαℓєω∂єя 👑
or them putting out a video to help people learn what to do with absolute virtue and it just...faded to black Lmfao
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
lmaoooo god the most useless video ever
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
Just made people angrier
𝑅𝒶𝒾𝓃𝒾𝒹𝑒𝑒𝓇 🦌
i'm glad our devs aren't like that... and the XI devs aren't that anymore
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
For rl
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
god same (i mean the people who work on xi are also part of the xiv team technically--)
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
OH NO. the worlds first clear used zoom hacks (zooming out the arena).
omega is full of drama....
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
And memes
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
SO many memes
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
that too!! the memes are good, the backlash is... going to be a lot from players more then devs i feel
𝑅𝒶𝒾𝓃𝒾𝒹𝑒𝑒𝓇 🦌
oh the OF is lit up about this lmao
𝑅𝒶𝒾𝓃𝒾𝒹𝑒𝑒𝓇 🦌
but i know JP players are very passionate about not using mods/plugins
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
as somebody who uses modifications i am. terrified of mentioning them rn lmao but also like why mention them in game anyway, y'all know what i do
E.S. Levi
I saw a discussion about it on Seraph, and the consensus seemed to be 'cosmetic mods are one thing, but if they were using something that affects fight difficulty, screw them.'
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
"The team that cleared was a team of 11 people: the 8 people actually doing the fight and 3 others assisting from the sidelines. The rumor is, after they got World First, the original 8 fighters were supposed to then help the 3 other members of their team clear but backed out on this part of the agreement when came time.
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
(I think they tried denying ever making that agreement to the other members?) So one of the 3 other team members leaked the footage in retaliation."
Tonberry King
amazing
Tonberry King
E.S. Levi : even if they use fight mods just for their own needs, that's between them and god and yoshi p, but if they're using them in a world first race then that's just cheating
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
honestly thats where im at as well, with fighting mods
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
but if you're trying to be the very best?
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
nah mate
E.S. Levi
YEP. If you use mods to help you get through content just so you have the clear, fine. That's really no different from waiting until people can unsync wreck it. But if you use combat mods in a competitive context...
E.S. Levi
Same goes for PVP. If you use mods that make fights easier when your opponent is another player, you're a cheating jerk.
Tonberry King
if you're using mods to make your character sexy, cool
if you're using mods to make OTHER people's characters sexy, fuck off
Tonberry King
(without consent, I mean)
E.S. Levi
I believe Anamnesis only lets you control PCs who are on your friends list, for exactly this reason.
Tonberry King
/thumbsup
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
One of the many reasons I prefer Anamnesis over textools
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
becuase textools will change everyone
E.S. Levi
That's Penumbra, Anamnesis is he posing program.
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
oops
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
I am
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
tired today
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
lmao
Tonberry King
good to know, been thinking of dabbling in some visual stuff for personal fun now that I have a computer that supports the programs but I don't know much about them
Tonberry King
trying to get as far as I can with decorating my new house before turning towards programs
E.S. Levi
Penumbra also lets you toggle mods on and off easily.
Tonberry King
(mostly I have concerns about somehow breaking the game or my computer)
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
I use a housing program combined with an optional plugin for it + another housing plugin and it saves SO much time and effort (and gil since you can put together a shopping list instead of needing to experiment)
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
So far no issues on anything breaking on my end
E.S. Levi
(Penumbra doesn't change any files in the game install, so at worst you might have the game crash if you try to make it do something too difficult. Usually, you'll just see a broken asset not loading.)
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
the program is MakePlace, it's got an associated plugin so you can import the layout from the program/export your layout in-game to the program (though you can just use the program to mess around with ideas if you want without any game connection), and the Burning Down the House plugin makes furniture placement SUPER easy without having to deal with
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
the frustration of float glitching
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
cause lord that shit takes forever unless you're super practiced at it
𝑅𝒶𝒾𝓃𝒾𝒹𝑒𝑒𝓇 🦌
i did float glitches for the first time in an apartment and i hated it lmfao
Tonberry King
yeah I did that in my fc room and ugh
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
i have both floated and not, and bdth is so much of a savior.....
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