𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
sorry to interrupt whatever you're doing but an engineer type crashed into the something awful linguistics thread to just ask some questions about hieroglyphs (and also call the entire field an unconvincing fraud):
https://images.plurk.com/3arZRzE0oJiX30K1OuSv96.png https://images.plurk.com/2WNiJc4iko9FiqlCujLHop.png
Gemini
how to turn a pack of linguists into a raging mob with pitchforks in 3...2...
THE HIGHWAYMAN
https://i.imgur.com/l9H4S.png
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
"STEMlord busts in to explain entire subject matter with perfect confidence" is probably my favorite genre of internet dumbass, so.
Gemini
STEMlords do that a lot, don't they?
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
i'm sharing… here's the thread.
go rimbaud
fucking incredible
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
once, when i was studying ancient greek, my physics major acquaintance legit said he basically knew greek because they used greek letters in physics formulas.
go rimbaud
truly understanding linguistics better than any linguist could
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
"where are the people in academia disagreeing???" computer toucher wonders aloud.
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
https://images.plurk.com/qlv6L1PAM7ohc08qo9ll7.png https://images.plurk.com/7pUUuc1qFUmNhZo6c1vTIB.png
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
this exchange is also great…
Gemini
goodness, how could it ever make sense that the eptitaph on a king's tomb would say how great of a king he was? it boggles.
go rimbaud
also given the way he talks about coat-of-arms i'm betting he may not understand heraldry either
go rimbaud
like all the stuff on a coat-of-arms is extremely specific, because each element means something
go rimbaud
so, in a way, it is kind of like an even more simplified form of hieroglyphics
go rimbaud
but he only brings up the comparison to imply that hieroglyphics mean less than they're thought to
𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙 𝖕𝖗𝖔𝖕𝖊𝖗!
You have no idea how hard I'm laughing about the barley
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
egyptians didn't have writing but they did have some pretty official looking pictures.
𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙 𝖕𝖗𝖔𝖕𝖊𝖗!
Has someone invoked Ea-Nasir and what a fucking scumbag cheat about copper he was yet
Gemini
early Egyptian complaint letters are the best
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙 𝖕𝖗𝖔𝖕𝖊𝖗! of course that was one of the dunks on this guy
𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙 𝖕𝖗𝖔𝖕𝖊𝖗!
I can only imagine the delight the person who plunked it down was feeling at the time
𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙 𝖕𝖗𝖔𝖕𝖊𝖗!
It's been almost 4000 years and uh, well, this is probably not what you want to be remembered for!
red wolf
I wanted to make a joke about the rosetta stone and the computer program rosetta stone,
red wolf
but unfortunately he is aware of the rosetta stone
6LilacMimeLions
FOR THE RECORD computer scientists aren't engineers (nottalking)
July, July
Oh my gosh.
6LilacMimeLions
[rant redacted]
July, July
alas... it's members only and I've never bothered to dish out.
6LilacMimeLions
anyway it is INCREDIBLY EASY to find details on how egyptian hieroglyphics are read and how they were deciphered
6LilacMimeLions
i can only conclude this guy fucking sucks at google
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
apparently he also posted on reddit and they were also mean to him.
6LilacMimeLions
good
6LilacMimeLions
love the "oh the egyptian bits are on the rosetta stone to make it look official"
6LilacMimeLions
also: lol at languages having to make sense from a guy asking these questions in fucking english
Gemini
lmfao
Platinum
credit to the dude who namedropped Ea-nasir
6LilacMimeLions
is there a word for when you're laughing but also kind of legit mad?
6LilacMimeLions
(fuu)
Platinum
"Dealing with Plat"
Gemini
I feel that
6LilacMimeLions
https://imgs.plurk.com/QCV/se6/8JNtwlMO6eUY7FKfZcJNNd2K0qi_lg.jpg
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
https://images.plurk.com/zpdTt0FH7c1sgi6gCbeyV.png
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
https://images.plurk.com/4W8NLo1VShvpqaEWVyaqWj.png
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
someone also posted this lol
6LilacMimeLions
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
also he claims this is all engineering:
https://images.plurk.com/3i2Iy0BA2wkS5FX69gtOEl.png
6LilacMimeLions
HE'S A COMPUTER SCIENTIST, NOT A GODDAMN ENGINEER (fuu)
6LilacMimeLions
(engineers also pull this shit, i just will never be okay with programmers calling themselves "software engineers")
red wolf
it's engineering to explain things
red wolf
lawyers are engineers
red wolf
this is so funny considering how aggressively proprietary tech is now. like you can't even take an iphone apart and put it back together without bricking it. could use some legislative engineers on that
hyuck splode
NO!!!!
hyuck splode
linguistics is harder i said what i said! they can cool it
hyuck splode
yeah, isn't a better term like... software developer? idk
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
i think my dad's degree is in electrical engineering even though he's a programmer. but he also is old.
6LilacMimeLions
there are some programmers who could be considered engineers, but, like...if bridges failed as often as software does...
Gemini
oh snap
𝕘𝕒𝕤💡 🚧𝕜𝕖𝕖𝕡 👧𝕕𝕒𝕕
God... I read this to my compsci partner (he also is big oh language and etymology) and he ranted for half an hour about how wrong this is 😂
𝕘𝕒𝕤💡 🚧𝕜𝕖𝕖𝕡 👧𝕕𝕒𝕕
Mostly equated to: "these don't even have the same standards and you're ignoring the fundamentals of language "
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
yeah lol guy doesn't understand the difference between a language and a script, so.
red wolf
also the fact that we still can't translate linear a
red wolf
they made it up to throw us off
red wolf
maybe stop telling one specific category of university major that their way of thinking is the best way of thinking
6LilacMimeLions
god i want a linear a rosetta stone
red wolf
the world is weird and qualitative. hieroglyphics are demotic puns
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
history is actually the master major because everything is history eventually
red wolf
but
red wolf
anything can be art...........
6LilacMimeLions
when they cryogenically revive me in 3000 ad they'll be like "you probably have questions" and i'll just yell "CAN WE READ LINEAR A YET????"
red wolf
sorry I put your software in a gallery and it's art now. you're an artist now. sorry
hyuck splode
i think if you have electrical + cs you should be considered an engineer
hyuck splode
bc you have electrical under your belt, i know at berkeley cs + ee is a diff degree than just cs with diff courses!
𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙 𝖕𝖗𝖔𝖕𝖊𝖗!
you'll take your wanax and you'll like it! No Linear A for you!
6LilacMimeLions
i've never met an electrical engineer who couldn't program
hyuck splode
that tracks
6LilacMimeLions
and yeah most places have an ee/computer major that leans more into hardware and firmware than software
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
6LilacMimeLions
at my school it was called "electrical and computer engineering"
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
and i'm absolutely sure the program for like, software development has changed a lot since my dad went to school in the early 80s.
6LilacMimeLions
i expect it's changed since i went to school in the early 00s
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
(though he REJECTED cal b/c it was too close to his parents)
6LilacMimeLions
my dad did ee in the early 60s
6LilacMimeLions
he has punch card stories
6LilacMimeLions
early 70s, in the early 60s he was in middle school
Gemini
sits over here in the linear A corner with the other nerds
Bugly42
I often call my mom a computer architect because she didn't directly do a lot of programming but defined how systems should work.
Prof. Meowmers
this is terrible and reminds me why i hate working with these sorts of people
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
anyway if you like to gawk at drama SA is worth $10, recently there have also been appearances by a guy who thinks turning off AI art generators is genocide and someone who believes doctor who is real
6LilacMimeLions
sa: a higher caliber of popcorning
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
they also had a discussion on the latest gsai wank somehow
Platinum
Weird to think of dreamwidth drama breaking containment
Platinum
I know it's been on hobbydrama a few times, but...
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
i know!
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
but honestly dwrp drama has the potential for the best kind of drama— the kind where everyone is just unreasonably invested so extremely minor stakes get turned into epic conflicts
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
which is really the appeal of the hobbydrama sub writ large
ՏᴇժєռԵǟʀү Ᏸᴜɾժ
I was just in the palace of mycenae today!! there was a whole bit about the scripts
6LilacMimeLions
jelly
ՏᴇժєռԵǟʀү Ᏸᴜɾժ
crazy how much inscribed pottery survived though when you're up there it's very easy to imagine how you'd lose ruins in the mountains, once it's overgrown... anyway I had a good chuckle about hieroglyphics just being decorative, amazing
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
the palace of scams more like. no seriously that's really cool.
red wolf
I was going to say I would gladly bend the knee to any king who made their coat of arms a perfect phonetic pun but I realized that's the plot of a discworld novel
ՏᴇժєռԵǟʀү Ᏸᴜɾժ
the crazy thing is how you're just kinda... allowed to wander around it lol, and at this time of year it was basically just me up there
red wolf
also that reminds me of the mineoan callout post
red wolf
https://images.plurk.com/1QR7WdPqVrd3K7cTeSXlqf.png
red wolf
I found another variation looking for it https://images.plurk.com/5f7rRDISxFNkR3HTDipjhW.png
ՏᴇժєռԵǟʀү Ᏸᴜɾժ
just who were the sea people anyway
red wolf
I THINK the one I first saw went into the mycenaeans and then was said to be written by the sea people
red wolf
'mycenaean apologist' would be a good display name but I think it is too long
Gemini
likewise jelly about being able to just wander into Mycenea
ՏᴇժєռԵǟʀү Ᏸᴜɾժ
https://images.plurk.com/7hHTHNabmSm2uE0MR9XH8s.jpg
dat lion gate
ՏᴇժєռԵǟʀү Ᏸᴜɾժ
https://images.plurk.com/4mxhqwey9l0VhXRvOGk0uv.png
they've done their best to make it wheelchair accessible too, I was impressed
ՏᴇժєռԵǟʀү Ᏸᴜɾժ
https://images.plurk.com/7BbQ3QssPKvPvXDH1YMgj9.jpg
snek
Gemini
hnnnnn so cool
Pixy🧚🏻
Just here to say Rosetta Steele is my new romance author name
Gemini
right?? "steele" thanks man
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
what romance genre niche would rosetta steele write in?
Platinum
Last name like Steele?
Platinum
Cop romance.
Platinum
Redeeming criminals through the love of a good partner.
red wolf
I think he was maybe trying to sound smart and say stele but got autocorrected or was just wrong
Platinum
I've never heard it called a Rosetta Stele before, but I guess you could say that.
Gemini
historical romance but instead of Scottish bodice rippers it's Pelopennesian war era
red wolf
tbh I feel like there's a market for that in the queer community
Gemini
I wish I cared enough about Athens-Sparta to write it
ՏᴇժєռԵǟʀү Ᏸᴜɾժ
coming back to this plurk cus I was just at the epigraphic museum in athens
ՏᴇժєռԵǟʀү Ᏸᴜɾժ
https://images.plurk.com/6lpymxXd0tWJVwBviMSSis.jpg heard u liek linear b
ՏᴇժєռԵǟʀү Ᏸᴜɾժ
https://images.plurk.com/FodVBQOg7lDuQW1BxrcZe.jpg https://images.plurk.com/1e07k2G9js3WDxWji1Sq2K.jpg https://images.plurk.com/7mpooYdYmRAUtIYPN9a1dm.jpg https://images.plurk.com/PGnT8YuMVZNizcioMuEKW.jpg
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
so cool!!
𝔰𝔲𝔟 𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔞
ancient graffiti… it's fake!
Gemini
/vibrates
6LilacMimeLions
what does it say
6LilacMimeLions
(i assume it's either "homer was here" or "achilles can kiss my ass," since that seems to be the content of most ancient graffiti)
6LilacMimeLions
(humanity never changes)
Platinum
Apparently it's hard to tell because the way it's written is in a style that changes the orientation of every line, both in the way in which the letters face, and the direction in which it should be read.
6LilacMimeLions
yeah, boustrophedon, but come on, someone has to have ideas!
ՏᴇժєռԵǟʀү Ᏸᴜɾժ
yeah I think they lack the level of confident consensus required to state what it says on the sign. lots of the other inscriptions were presented with translations but the earlier artifacts had vague descriptions instead
ՏᴇժєռԵǟʀү Ᏸᴜɾժ
https://images.plurk.com/ov8IhFGddQ6SLuuNo0Rb4.jpg they had a bunch of much more recognizable edict steles like this one recording judgements made by Marcus Aurelius
ՏᴇժєռԵǟʀү Ᏸᴜɾժ
https://images.plurk.com/5Hz90U5OxnK93uZe0kAMiz.jpg https://images.plurk.com/2WULSIRalB7hgcogwqdk4w.jpg https://images.plurk.com/4h0PZDyQfdObSpJrv3STOo.jpg and a bunch of interesting artifacts concerning the Jewish diaspora in greece
ՏᴇժєռԵǟʀү Ᏸᴜɾժ
https://images.plurk.com/15sdcKDcfUUDPNlEvi4j8Y.jpg https://images.plurk.com/5uB9GkjIPfW0zawJqRsF22.jpg https://images.plurk.com/aKfbFHrCAkF9RU3rlKfRN.jpg but most of the museum is just shelves and shelves of inscriptions
ՏᴇժєռԵǟʀү Ᏸᴜɾժ
https://images.plurk.com/5Ro7fNNR0u7E2DwyFgo2uz.jpg https://images.plurk.com/6OCV5p2DAqZ8SwFIZQoiL9.jpg https://images.plurk.com/7KVte7ttcrBPPYcQ2zdKIN.jpg https://images.plurk.com/5yqHclFaEHHXjL6RUqJOt1.jpg https://images.plurk.com/72WfDl1OwrSd2kgwYDG65N.jpg https://images.plurk.com/5EUzIvnzvhEDoArRiIl9nX.jpg
ՏᴇժєռԵǟʀү Ᏸᴜɾժ
last one is draconian law concerning homicides
ՏᴇժєռԵǟʀү Ᏸᴜɾժ
third one is an edict placing limits on the prices of essential goods and fair wages
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