Lea
And so I begin my journey into the parts of the game that cost money. Stormblood, here I come!
Lea
And the adventures of Tataru, Mistress of Fashion, continue...
pastel ranma
\o/
Lea
First few quests of ARR: Look at this amazing world! Sure there was an apocalypse a while back, but people have bounced back and you have all these adventures to go on!
First few quests of HW: Ishgard has a whole bunch of secrets to uncover and it's hard to tell what's really going on. Better figure it out!
Lea
First few quests of SB: Yes, the imperials really are that bad. Also, most people have pretty much given up at this point, and Ilberd didn't help.
pastel ranma
Yeah I really do like that they establish real damned quick that Ilberd really burned the resistance.
Lea
All those deaths meant something... and it wasn't something good.
pastel ranma
On the other hand, he did force the Alliance's hand. As at fault as Ilberd is, there's definitely fault to be laid at the Eorzean Alliance's lap for their inaction.
Lea
Yeah, though Merlwyb already explained that back when Alph asked for help with the Steps of Fate.
Lea
Whether "we've got our own problems and can't spare the manpower" works as an actual excuse is up to interpretation, of course.
Lea
But with the Dragonsong War ended and Ishgard ready to help out, the Alliance is definitely in a stronger position now.
pastel ranma
That's also very valid
pastel ranma
I just think if they were doing more, even if they didn't make a big push like they're forced to do now, Ilberd wouldn't have been able to procure so many willing followers.
Lea
Probably not. Of course, that raises the question of how they could have helped without a full-on invastion.
pastel ranma
One thing that's done in the real world is sending excellent soldiers who are excellent teachers to then teach the resistance groups the tactics necessary to succeed, basically getting them up to speed faster than the opposition group would anticipate.
pastel ranma
Which who knows, might be part of what Pipin was doing over there.
pastel ranma
One thing the Eorzean Alliance definitely wasn't doing though was organizing its effort to help Ala Mhigo as an alliance it was very disjointed until now.
Lea
Well the Alliance basically fell apart after the Calamity up until the assault on Castrum Meridanium.
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I think it dwells into a super morally grey area which is true to the real world
pastel ranma
^
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We all know ethically what Ilberd did is wrong... But it works. It has worked in the real world.
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A lot of revolutions and movements which we "idolize" started in really. Questionable ways.
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Likewise for the city states refusing to intervene. I mean, just look at Ukraine.
Lea
It worked to bring the Alliance in, yeah. It also depleted Ala Mhigo's already low population of people willing to fight, and devastated the morale of the people left. Ignoring ethics and looking at it with a practical eye, I'm on the fence about how effective it was.
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At the same time, intrvention isn't always right. It's really. Super delicate.
Lea
Of course, Ilberd no doubt expected Shinryu to actually attack the imperials rather than get knocked off who-knows-where by Omega, so it's not like everything went the way he intended.
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I mean, clearly it's effective since Ala Mhigo's gonna get freed at some point. Which may never have happened otherwise.
𝕁υѕт мєℓσ∂ιє
Ilberd's vision is that the resistance failed and you should be willing to die for your cause. If you are not willing to die for your cause, then you are a traitor and getting you killed or worst is just retribution.
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It is morally unquestionably wrong.
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But, he succeeded.
Lea
Mmmm. Though, how much of that is because this is a game and the good guys have to win, and how much is actually believable is the question. Which, obviously, I don't have the foggiest idea this early on.
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Admittedly in the real world we don't have the Warrior of Light
Lea
But we also don't have apocalypse-causing superdragons, so, fair deal.
Lea
One could maybe compare some of the things in Eorzea to WMDs of various sorts.
Lea
Meanwhile I'm delighted Monk is my main class because this is going to tie into the MSQ of Stormblood very nicely, I feel.
pastel ranma
Oh speaking of, don't forget you have unlocked the new classes now
pastel ranma
Red Mage and Samurai are available to you at this level
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gunbreaker and dancer, too. they start at lvl 60
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also um
Lea
Yep! I dunno if I'll do what I did in HW, and bulldoze through the MSQ then unlock everything else, but I know I've got options.
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I hate to say it, but after HW the expansion poster job has never had any story references
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Nobody will bat an eyelash at you being a monk
𝕁υѕт мєℓσ∂ιє
It kinda sucks
Lea
That is a shame. Especially since the Monk Questline in SB appears to be reviving the Fists of Rhalgr.
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Tbh I thought the Monk NPC would end up playing a role in the main story like Estinien did from DRG
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But nah, nothing
Lea
Yeah, Widargelt is just... he's right there. He's right there.
pastel ranma
I will say that the Red Mage teacher is like minorly relevant/referenced in the story but not by much
pastel ranma
Like he doesn't show up for story sequences, but at least one other character mentions his existence.
pastel ranma
Meanwhile Samurai is big on giving you cultural context for Doma
Lea
And the man who got humiliated at the end of HW comes back to get beaten up some more as an opening salvo.
Lea
And I do believe we've met the Big Bad of this expansion, or the Ala Mhigo side of it anyway. Plus his main subordinate, though technically we saw her earlier.
Lea
Random Ala Mhigan NPC: /is named "Immodest Mouse"
Me: /DELIGHT
FISH CITIZEN
pastel ranma
Ohh yeah I think I remember that one because that's such a cute name.
Lea
Several Cutscenes Will Play In Sequence
FISH CITIZEN
Lea
Well
Lea
Okay, so, nice to have the resistance while they lasted.
Lea
Zenos showing off his Big Bad credentials handily. His right-hand minion was... less impressive, hoping we don't just get a second Livia here.
FISH CITIZEN
she is very definitely not livia... 2!
Lea
Oh okay, so Zenos is the Big Bad of Doma too! That works. I was wondering how the hell they were planning on giving us a second one after that.
Lea
So Ala Mhigo and Doma share a main villain but have separate sub-bosses.
Lea
Oh hey we're getting a lift from Jarlaxle.
FISH CITIZEN
oh i love him
Lea
... Wait are he an Jan brothers?
FISH CITIZEN
Cousins
Lea
Good enough
Lea
That's hilarious
Lea
Also I love Tataru. Have I mentioned this? Because it's true.
FISH CITIZEN
tataru's so fucking good
Lea
Oh hey, the first dungeon! Punch things on the ocean!
Lea
FUCK IT'S A CAPITALIST
FISH CITIZEN
Hancock Fitzgerald
Lea
And now we have asshole catfish and a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle.
FISH CITIZEN
Lea
And now we see Zenos's second-in-command in Doma, and... what the actual fuck.
FISH CITIZEN
Ah my wife
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pastel ranma
yep
pastel ranma
She's in my top 3 favorite characters to come from Stormblood
Lea
Pirates: Yeah we can't fight the imperials we'd just all get butchered.
Alisaie: What if we took away their Raphaels?
Pirates: ... Go on.
pastel ranma
Also yay for being in the expansion where Alisaie starts to get to do things (like she got to do some stuff in patches but was AWOL in HW)
Lea
Up until 3.4 yeah
Lea
I love the Kojin. They are terrific.
FISH CITIZEN
They’re so good
pastel ranma
They're very good
skerple
The Kojin are wonderful
skerple
Something I really love about FF14's worldbuilding is that, like... you know how there's sometimes a designated Merchant Race? And they're usually capitalist assholes, and often have a bunch of antisemitic tropes?
skerple
FF14 has two Merchant Races, fully distinct from each other in both the mercantilism and the cultural values and mores that lead to the mercantilism, and neither of them are assholes or stereotypes.
skerple
(You haven't met the second race I'm talking about, but I have a feeling you'll love them too. They're in Shadowbringers.)
skerple
also congratulations, you are fully into the Alisaie Content
skerple
she is Here Now and she is Not Leaving
skerple
enjoy her.
Lea
I mean, the Lalafell are a Merchant Race, so we've already met two.
Lea
Aaaaaaand Yotsuyu proceeds to fulfill the dreams of everyone who has ever wanted to be stepped on.
Lea
We going full Larxene.
Lea
Yugiri's parents!
skerple
Yugiri's parents!!
Lea
All the cool people live underwater.
Lea
Oh hi Susano
Lea
I was wondering when I'd punch my first god of the expansion in the face
Lea
Hi Yugiri!
skerple
Susano is the fucking best
skerple
he wasn't even summoned he just sort of showed up to party
Lea
Just brought the treasures together and poof! God!
skerple
literally no other primal happens that way, it's the best
skerple
also you've probably noticed by now, but Stormblood is where the "beast tribe" idea really starts breaking down
skerple
in ARR and HW it was fairly formulaic, you'd have a tribe with a subgroup you did quests for that was in some way resisting their tempered brethren (with the exception of the moogles)
skerple
in Stormblood... I mean, you've probably noticed by now that the Red Kojin aren't tempered, they just work for the Empire
skerple
and the Kojin and Namazu in general are just, sorta there, coexisting with the other peoples of Othard
skerple
the Ananta have a more complicated situation, but they're not really at odds with the people of Gyr Abania either
skerple
and the Lupin don't even have tribe quests, they're just generally integrated into the population
skerple
in general it's like. the further afield you go from Eorzea, the less racist people are about their local 'beast tribes'
skerple
it's fascinating.
Lea
Which makes it more relevant when you find people who encourage that sort of thinking. Like the Syndicate. And a lot of the Empire.
skerple
Yyyyyup.
skerple
if you already know about this then I'm sorry for repeating, but - there's a bit in the second lorebook that actually specifically calls out the Syndicate for this
skerple
the early Syndicate is apparently responsible for coining the term 'beast tribe' in the first place, and fomenting the racism
skerple
because they wanted to mine on Amalj'aa land
Lea
Fucking Capitalists.
skerple
indeed.
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I mean, without delving too much into spoilers
𝕁υѕт мєℓσ∂ιє
In ShB one of the so-called Beast Tribe is just a player character race using a different name
𝕁υѕт мєℓσ∂ιє
In fact they've official renamed the quests from "beast tribes" to "Tribal Quests"
Lea
Ah fuck Zenos is in Doma now
Lea
On the bright side that makes thing easier in Ala Mhigo
pastel ranma
and yeah didn't want to bring it up at the point you were at, but this lends credence to what you were saying of "What could the Alliance do?" Because freeing Doma is instrumental in the plan to free Ala Mhigo
FISH CITIZEN
he's here to have fun (hopefully)
Lea
I did wonder why they put the two of them into the same expansion, but the whole "divide and conquer" strategy makes it work well.
pastel ranma
Yep. I do feel like the Ala Mhigo side of things does suffer a bit, but it makes a lot of sense, and the relations continue to matter going forward
Lea
Aaaaand Yugiri is making an uncharacteristically Very Bad Plan.
Lea
Time For Bad Ideas!
Lea
So now we're almost on par with Zenos until he draws that supersword... Okay, we know Kami are real thanks to Susano, so maybe he's channeling energy through it like Louisoix's staff or something.
Lea
Estinien!
Lea
Me doing the job questline: Yeah this is pretty appropriate for the Ala Mhigo liberation, works pretty nicely- WE'RE GONNA GO GET HAMON?
Lea
Just for a sparring match, sure, but still. HOLYFIST TIME!
pastel ranma
Hamon!
pastel ranma
I do like the pugilist story more than I like the Monk, just for how goofy Hamon is
Lea
The Class stories don't get too much spotlight after you move on to the Jobs, so it's really nice to see them worked in like this.
pastel ranma
Agreed!
Lea
And now, off to the Steppe! Which is my WoL's home, but I know it'd be a bit much to ask that the storyline acknowledge that.
Lea
MY FELLOW XAELA ACKNOWLEDGE MY SPECIES
Lea
Okay, this is interesting, because I did conceive of the Ortrite as being one of the tribes still on the Steppe. So either they don't participate in the Nadaam or my WoL is gonna be fighting her own family...
pastel ranma
What's the name of her tribe again?
Lea
Ortrite. It's a twisting of "Forthright" so I imagine her tribe as truthseekers, maybe people who root out secrets and such.
pastel ranma
Ooh okay you made your own tribe. Okay I was confused for a hot second.
Lea
Yeah I didn't know what the actual tribe names were (or that it would come up)
pastel ranma
Yeah they could have chosen to leave or maybe even folded into one of the other tribes while your WoL was away.
Lea
Figured her last name would be her tribe's name, and that does seem to be how the Xaela do things.
Lea
I did notice several tribes seem to have left the steppes, like Sid's and Alaqa's. I could go that route but I like the idea of this being Kalla's homecoming.
FISH CITIZEN
i think they've said there are a few little tribes that aren't really known to outsiders so it works
FISH CITIZEN
(anyway the steppe portion was written by ishikawa so it fucks)
Lea
Oh the steppe portion is excellent, it just really did not consider the idea of the WoL being a Xaela from the steppe.
Lea
Which is sad, because the more of this story I see the more that concept strikes me as awesome.
Lea
... So one of the biggest tribes is basically a cult with Mr. "I am the Sun God" at its helm, and the other consists of the most metal version of reincarnation belief I've ever seen.
Lea
... Did I just meet a canonical transman?
FISH CITIZEN
i mean dotharl gender is... hand waggle
Lea
Yeah...
Lea
Hien: Okay guys, we won the fight, so now we're gonna go save Doma.
Sadu: You want us to fight your war?
Hien: ...
Sadu: Yeah sure I just want to kick someone's ass.
Lea
I love the Dotharl.
pastel ranma
The Dotharl are super fun and super interesting
Lea
And it's time to take out Doma Castle! Fun cinematic leading us in (Magnai and Sadu were having entirely too much fun).
pastel ranma
Also fun fact. There is a wind-up Magnai and a wind-up Sadu and if they're close enough to each other they will occasionally fight each other.
Lea
That is adorable and hilarious.
Lea
Alright! Doma's free, Yotsuyu's dead, and Gosetsu gets a Haurchefant moment.
Lea
Which was pretty heavily telegraphed, and that's probably the biggest difference between the two of them since Haurchefant's came as such a shock.
Lea
Well that was an emotional ride!
Lea
Yay! Doma's free.
Awww, we're gonna have to leave everyone behind to go back to Ala Mhigo
Yay! Hien's sending Yugiri with us as part of his plan to keep the Empire on the back foot!
Oh fuck! Zenos has Krile!
FISH CITIZEN
You are just zooming through this lol
Lea
I'm deliberately ignoring all side content, including the classes I could be picking up at this point.
Lea
Also, I'm on vacation, so I don't have to be interrupted by obnoxious burdens on my time like work.
Lea
Taken out the bridge, clever plan with the flag, and found out that we've got a new Primal to punch! Once again the imperials are their own worst enemies when it comes to that.
pastel ranma
Yep the imperials cause more Primals than they put down, usually by doing the whole fascism thing.
Lea
Oh fuck are we about to see Overtuned Fordola?
Lea
Zenos no
skerple
something that I didn't learn until after I was caught up through EW, but that REALLY gives a lot of context for Fordola's Everything: she's nineteen
skerple
she and Arenvald both
skerple
they're babeys
Lea
She did seem on the young side
Lea
Makes them spreading rumors that she's sleeping with Zenos even grosser... though come to think of it I'm not sure how old he is, either.
Lea
Krile no!
Lea
... Okay so Zenos's science dude thinks he's found a way to let Garleans use magic. But he did something else to Fordola, they were pretty cagey about what.
Lea
And Thancred is proving how very good he is at getting into places.
skerple
he didn't get those fancy tattoos for nothin'!
Lea
Aaaaaand they lured the army into one spot for their big gun.
Lea
Not sure why this surprised Raubahn, that sounds just like what I'd expect.
Lea
Eyyyy Estinien! Go get 'em!
FISH CITIZEN
zenos is 26
FISH CITIZEN
the same age as emmanellain
Lea
Yeaaaaah, that makes those rumors creepier, yup.
Lea
Okay, so, Krile's back, Fordola's captured, we know what Zenos did to Fordola (somehow gave her the Echo), and we're coming up on the end of 4.0, it looks like.
Lea
I am... less than impressed with Fordola's attempt at a motive, but there are plenty of people IRL who haven't figured out by her age that doing your captors bidding will never be rewarded.
pastel ranma
and if you're convinced the empire is unbeatable, well better to try to work your way to the top.
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Fordola gets better but tbh when she betrayed her own comrades was a bit of a ???? moment
𝕁υѕт мєℓσ∂ιє
You're fighting so you and your comrades may have a better life, and then... Kill said comrades.
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𝕁υѕт мєℓσ∂ιє
Not the brightest
Lea
At that point I'm willing to accept it as a sunk cost fallacy on her part.
Lea
She's really just a very angry young woman lashing out at the wrong people.
FISH CITIZEN
I’ve seen a theory that that scene was written by the author of a notoriously messy bit of future content and I can buy it
Lea
Stopped to finish the Monk questline, and unsurprisingly, it was a very good one! The main disappointment is that it doesn't actually intersect with the main quest at all.
Lea
Because it really, really should.
Lea
Still, probably the best monk questline I've seen so far.
skerple
FISH CITIZEN : oh damn yeah I can buy that too
skerple
but yeah fordola is just. she's young and angy and up to her eyeballs in sunk cost fallacy
skerple
I love her so much.
FISH CITIZEN
Same
Lea
And we are at the final battle of Stormblood 4.0!
Lea
And just... damn, Zenos. You're a deranged lunatic, but you are impressive.
skerple
There are many valid criticisms of the man, but no one can say he's not fucking incredible to watch happen.
FISH CITIZEN
i love zenos so much
FISH CITIZEN
love how he just
FISH CITIZEN
invites you to this place one of ala mhigo's kings made for his wife and filled with animals for her enjoyment
FISH CITIZEN
and he's got a fucking dragon primal
FISH CITIZEN
get you a man etc
skerple
.... god
skerple
I never thought about it from that angle but holy shit
skerple
really is just fuckin courting you
Lea
Okay! So.
Lea
I keep hearing that Stormblood is a step down from Heavensward.
Lea
Now obviously I've only finished the pre-patch stuff at this point, but.
Lea
I can sort of see where this is coming from.
Lea
In HW you go from the absolute bottom, betrayed by everyone, left with just a few allies and one family of a nation you know nothing about willing to take you in, to the unchallenged hero of both that nation and its ancient enemies, ender of a thousand-year war.
Lea
You have some of the best characters in the game, some agonizing moments, and a huge triumph at the end.
Lea
It's very, very well done.
Lea
In SB you're not the one starting from nothing.
Lea
That's literally everyone you've come to help.
Lea
In many ways SB is more Lyse and Hien's story than it is yours.
Lea
The things that makes it the WoL's story are A: The fact that they're the one who beats down almost everyone, and B: Zenos, because as far as he's concerned everybody else may as well not exist.
Lea
But Hien and Lyse are the ones who go through these big arcs and come out the other side stronger people.
Lea
I don't particularly mind this, though. You get to play a supporting role, helping other people become their best selves after they get broken down like you were at the start of HW.
Lea
Putting Doma and Ala Mhigo into the same expansion did require splitting things up, yeah, but that's written in to the story, and I think they make it work. They do introduce a lot in this expansion, though.
Lea
HW gave us Ishgard and Dravania, with the nice tasty bonus of Asyz Lla at the end.
Lea
SB gives us Ala Mhigo, Hingan, the Ruby Sea, then Doma, and the Steppe.
Lea
It's a lot to try to give attention to.
Lea
In the end, it was an ambitious expansion, and if some things didn't get all the attention that we would have liked, I feel like that's perfectly understandable. But in the end, all of these places were important and the story would have suffered for losing any of them.
Lea
Character-wise, we know most of the people on the Ala Mhigo side of things already. We just get introduced to a handful of red shirts and Fordola over there.
Lea
Which might be why Ala Mhigo seems smaller? There isn't much in the way of interesting new faces to add to the cast... but that's because several of the people we already know came from there in the first place.
Lea
Fordola I already talked about, she's just an angry teenager flailing about, you feel sad for her more than anything.
Lea
The Doma side of things piles on the characters. Hancock and Soroban in Hingan are both delights for very different reasons, despite both being merchants.
Lea
The pirates in the Ruby Sea were never gonna measure up to the Lominsans, and I'm fine with that. As for the Raen, they're clearly later-patch material.
Lea
Doma itself gives us Yotsuyu, who is just... quite something.
Lea
Like I said about her earlier, big Larxene energy.
Lea
And then there's the Steppe.
Lea
Which, just... I love everyone on the Steppe.
Lea
The Xaela are the best and I'm so happy I made my WoL a Xaela.
Lea
Sadu's my favorite.
Lea
Hien is a very serviceable rightful king returning to save his people, what makes him most interesting are his interactions with Lyse and how he helps her grow.
FISH CITIZEN
Yeah I agree pretty much
FISH CITIZEN
stormblood is good you guys are just mean
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