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actually here is my own I Am Very Possibly Autistic plurk but about a specific thing
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which is like
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I have a lot of other symptoms like overstim/hyperfixation/please let me sit alone in a dark room for like three hours sometimes to decompress from the trauma of interacting with another human being/etc
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Chris Molyneaux on TikTok
Moelle linked me this and I was like 'who took this video of me in my house'
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but what does trip me up abt just being like 'I guess I'm autistic' is
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AS A CHILD I JUST LIED
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ALL THE TIME
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I think generally speaking autistics treat language more as a tool to convey raw information and allistics treat language more as a tool to influence outcomes
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'I will say x because I want this person to like me,' 'I will say y because I want the conversation to lead in this direction'
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but the way I am wired is very much more the latter by default
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me a six year old on the playground telling other kids I'm literally a wolf demon cuz I wanted to look cool and getting offended when they didn't believe me
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i know i lied as a kid all the time (and still sometimes do though i try not to) just because it felt like a faster way to get through the conversation than trying to explain things properly
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and then i'd freak out like oh god why did i lie it's going to be discovered and everyone will know i'm A LIAR
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I remarked just recently again abt how rping Reaper lying was easy because she just says whatever comes to mind and whether it's true or not isn't even really a factor and that is basically what talking to child me was like. the process of learning to lie less had to go through a very long detour of first agonizingly trying to learn to lie BETTER
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a GHOST : god real
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
im hilariously the opposite, i had to get special lessons to learn how to lie
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
because i could not
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
i could not tell even little untruths and i got extremely distressed by the idea of other people lying
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have you also had the experience where in like a group setting someone asks 'who did [x bad thing]' and you're like 'not me' and then you're instantly internally like 'oh fuck they're gonna see through my lie and catch me' BUT YOU ACTUALLY DIDN'T DO THE THING
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
oh i have that too but that's just called anxiety
(◍•ᴗ•◍)🌻 BIZ
imo autistic folks do definitely lie as much as anyone else. if you want to learn how to mask, it's gonna become a top survival skill.
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ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ : see my impression is this is normal for autism
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like I see lots of posts abt how lying or even sarcasm are really hard for autistic people
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+1 on "i could not lie. i still am really fucking bad at just lying to people."
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which is why I'm like 'ok but it I'm autistic then why this'
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when i try to lie i smile and laugh because it's a nervous reaction
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but i think
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
i mean, autism expresses itself differently in different people!
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you can file a lot of shit under masking
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
yeah, it's entirely possible your brain just filed that as like.
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
input/output systems and masking
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I DON'T THINK IT'S MASKING IF I HAD TO UNLEARN IT TO SURVIVE SOCIALLY
a GHOST
from what i've seen autistic ppl tend to either be very bad at lying or are constantly telling small harmless lies
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a lot of how someone manages their autism has to do with their life experience, i never had to lie to my parents to get them to like/accept me
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so i didn't learn how to do that with kids
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and then i continued to just not do that, and played on my own
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sometimes your masking....... is inappropriate
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you said 'who took this video of me in my house' and i believed you but upon watching it i got like got flashbacks anyway
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it's not perfect, and you adjust it
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i think the fact that you did it to try to get people to like you qualifies it as a mask in any case
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like it'd be one thing if it were like 'I learned to lie to protect myself,' there's def stuff that falls under that umbrella like I also laugh a lot in person as a nervous response and to cover up that I don't know how react otherwise etc
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but ultimately it all boils down to
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but the earliest version of Kaz lied because I just made shit up for no reason
塔露拉·雅特利亞斯
my experience with this is that autistic people struggle like hell to grasp how neurotypical perceive lies because they either take the idea that lies are a betrayal of trust deeply sincerely or they just. like. lie all the time because lies are how they learn to make people respect them
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"autism is the core, but the actual way it manifests is a fucking mystery surprise ball"
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it also like could just be anxiety and not related to the autism directly, like 'fuck they're going to see through my lie and catch me' is just
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YOU KNOW.
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me every day with ocd ,
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i know.
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and in the latter case it can be outgrown because obviously eventually you learn people don't like being lied to
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but also like. anxiety
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i continue to believe shit like anxiety is just a reaction to undiagnosed/untreated shit like trauma or neurodivergence so--
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but i'm not a scientist and human brains are wacky
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in any case it's impossible to fit anything into a small box
塔露拉·雅特利亞斯
anxiety is "oh god everyone will know i'm fake, and a liar, and i'm doomed" and also "oh god what if i [stop lying] then everyone will see that i'm a fraud and nothing"
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even in terms of like, physical bodies
(◍•ᴗ•◍)🌻 BIZ
塔露拉·雅特利亞斯 explained this well. for some folks, lies become social tools to leverage your likeability. I don't know many autistic folks who use lying to avoid repercussions? shrug??
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
honestly at this point i am convinced the most reliable test for autism is just
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
https://64.media.tumblr.com/a15ecc3c1318372497fb5449c7662f9e/76ab07f7221feee9-0d/s1280x1920/58ae4a04f88040803744b74b55b01577a14e5950.jpg
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in general also 'the earliest version of me' yeah children just like. lie. they just do
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https://imgs.plurk.com/QBu/z1Y/VfmEqt7y6rXEl7j7DegRcMtNxxD_lg.png
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
how does this image make you feel
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me rn
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ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ : ... i have to read it now though
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where is it,
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the brave little toaster fucked me up
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
GOD I WISH I KNEW
(◍•ᴗ•◍)🌻 BIZ
autism is hilarious. I don't form attachment to physical objects but the idea of wearing socks makes me break into a cold sweat.
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ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
i suffer
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
true autism test: how do you feel about sad robots
(◍•ᴗ•◍)🌻 BIZ
okay FUCK the brave little toaster. new autism diagnosis criteria just dropped: did this movie give you nightmares?
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"If you know one person with autism, you know one person with autism"
塔露拉·雅特利亞斯
i cannot with the brave little toaster
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do not speak to me about that movie i will fucking kill whoever made it
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new autism test: is your new hyperfixation neurodivergence/autism?
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(must only be applied once you realize you might be ND/autistic)
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
the brave little toaster fucked me up
i genuinely do not remember literally anything about it. i have blocked out, like, most of my memories from before roughly 16 years old for other reasons
but just hearing the fucking name of the movie triggers my fight or flight reflexes
塔露拉·雅特利亞斯
i am the poster child for "frightened child to horror fan pipeline REAL" and i've gone back and rewatched a lot of the movies that fucked me up as a child with new appreciation but man FUCK the brave little toaster, that put a hole in my soul that can never be repaired
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(◍•ᴗ•◍)🌻 BIZ : oh no I absolutely used lying to avoid repercussions a lot. I was literally that tv sitcom character who pretends to be sick to get out of going to school
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THE BRAVE LITTLE TOASTER ISN'T EVEN A HORROR MOVIE
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I just was like 'well I could file that one under survival mechanisms'
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BUT IT FUCKING SHOULD BE
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YOU CANNOT TELL ME THAT ISN'T A HORROR MOVIE
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i pretended to be sick but i like
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i didn't do it well.
塔露拉·雅特利亞斯
IT'S A HORROR MOVIE.
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'but the defaulting to saying made up untrue shit instead of anything factual seems inconsistent with what I read about autism'
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my other favorite thing to do that wasn't lying was just omitting the truth
(◍•ᴗ•◍)🌻 BIZ
imo lying to get out of the overwhelming process of attending school is valid af
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which i also felt AWFUL about, but my parents didn't need to know that i could hack the wifi when i was grounded
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a girl in love : i mean i have a way better food tolerance than what autistic people are supposed to have so
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again, "If you know one person with autism you know one person with autism"
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if you don't exhibit One Thing it doesn't invalidate the rest... at least i fucking hope not
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if my ability to eat weird foods sometimes (unless they're very specifically meat, or pickled) takes away my autistic card i haven't even officially earned yet, then fuck
塔露拉·雅特利亞斯
on the one hand i don't remember lying a lot as a child on the other hand one time i begged my mom to let me stop working in the yard because i felt sick and faint and she wouldn't let me stop working so instead i fell over and passed out and i was able to guilt her for years afterward over that time she almost killed me while i had undiagnosed pneumonia
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what the fuck
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honestly people just need to listen to their children more what the fuck
(◍•ᴗ•◍)🌻 BIZ
gawd someone in one of my adult autism groups on facebook's comfort foods are mashed peas and mashed potatoes and every time she posts a meal we pretend to slap her autism card away.
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(◍•ᴗ•◍)🌻 BIZ : this is like the exact opposite of the sensory experience i desire wtf
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my father who is extremely autistic and not diagnosed also prefers his food to be mushy and i CANNOT EVEN
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i can't deal with it i have to have cronch or firm textures
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i mean i CAN deal, the thing is i am
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able to deal with foods i hate
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which is why i'm like "yeah i don't really have the kind of food autism i'm supposed to have"
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but i certainly have Strong Opinions
塔露拉·雅特利亞斯
i was also about to be like "i don't have weird food problems" and then i remember that my mouth violently hates it when food is slithery
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LKMKMLSDF
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re: faking sick to get out of school, as a response to both 'faking sick to get out of school is valid because school is traumatizing' and 'I pretended to be sick but I did it badly,' every time I faked sick my mom would ask if I was faking but then she would still let me stay home.
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i hate pickled things, and i hate a lot of meat textures
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those are the things that i WILL NOT EAT
(◍•ᴗ•◍)🌻 BIZ
academic conference of people with adhd and autism fighting over sensory input from foods.
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I thought this still meant I was caught because I can't remember her ever asking if I was faking when I was legitimately sick, but later it came up in a conversation she was like 'I mean I asked but you genuinely seemed really pale and unwell so I did actually think you were sick'
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i can eat mushy foods but like. strictly on a "i'll tolerate this because i was told as a child that if i don't eat what i am given i am personally slighting the starving people in africa" basis.
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lifehack: just be so mentally unwell your body lies for you
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I'm glad your mom listened when you said it was gonna be Too Much that day.
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soup is pushing it
塔露拉·雅特利亞斯
i'll eat literally anything at least once but the sensory profile whereby my mouth perceives something inside it as slithering is. absolutely not. i don't want that.
塔露拉·雅特利亞斯
i don't know that that's an autism thing necessarily tho
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it's just. hm.
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my dad has to have his food hotter than hell temperature wise
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he microwaves his dinner like 5 times
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he will get up and microwave it if it gets too cold
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i don't know what kind of autism shit that is, but it sure is something
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meanwhile
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I love how autistic people can unite under the banner of Absurd Food Preferences. Autism! Come for the predictable sensory experience of eating highly processed foods, stay because you struggle to navigate social spaces and don't know how to politely leave.
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i'm like, "i'm just gonna stick this in the fridge for a bit so it gets colder"
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it gets thicker and more texturally interesting for me if it's colder sorry
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I don't have food sensory issues to the point where I have things where if I put them in my mouth I feel like I'm dying but I do have food sensory issues to the point where I just think food is bullshit
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this ventured way out of autism vs lying woops
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whispers lettuce
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partly tho this is also due to shame and alexithymia decimating my capacity to even identify when I like or dislike foods
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you know what else is bullshit and should feel bad. lotion
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LOTION
a GHOST
FUCK LOTION
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God of Brats : ,, ok I guess feeling like I actually will choke and die eating lettuce may qualify as feeling like I'm dying
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ilu
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I just filed that under a practical concern because I also did have trouble chewing it.
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whenever i see lettuce i think of you /fond
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LMAO IT'S THE LIKE
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PASSION WITH WHICH YOU WILL DUNK ON LETTUCE FOR ME
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ah yes, my girlfriend who hates lettuce prayerhands heart emoji
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FUCK lettuce
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i'll eat all ur lettuce babe
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shout out to those like, fucking lettuce eating clubs
lotus 龙 wife
lotion is fucking bad
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I forgot about lettuce entirely. when thinking of my texturally issues I was instead thinking about Airy Things. fuck meringue
(◍•ᴗ•◍)🌻 BIZ
shout out to the kid I did big sister/little sister stuff with a few years back. she ate only crispy lettuce. she wanted to become a rabbit. we drew cute art together of her rabbit fursona and on graduation day she ate a whole slice of pizza like a champ.
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I've found like, a few that I will put on but never.
(◍•ᴗ•◍)🌻 BIZ
autism sure is a spectrum.
lotus 龙 wife
tomatoes are the hell texture that I hate
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I'm glad we all agree that lotion fucking sucks
a GHOST
i've trained myself to be able to put on lotion when i absolutely need to but i hate it
nihaowdy
ok i finally watched that tiktok and having lived with you: it was me i filmed it
(◍•ᴗ•◍)🌻 BIZ
but yeah, re: untruths when you're autistic. I don't think that could invalidate any diagnosis just because there's so much that falls under the spicy neurodivergent umbrella and our reasons for untruthing stuff are usually predicated on lived experience and how we wish to be perceived by others.
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the fUCKING
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object personification???
nihaowdy
re: lying i once harassed my grandma into telling her sister she blamed her for a bad thing happening bc i was Fixated On The Truth and that probably further ruined their relationship but lol
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fakeharmless: HGNDBDNF
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jesus i've had a formal diagnosis since age 21 but i didn't realize that was part of the constellation of ha ha just autism things
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i then took lying as a challenge.
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question: did y'all have the same response to Toy Story as you did to the goddamn toaster or did Pixar not create a nightmare for you?
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like a science of "yeah ok i was lying but HOW COULD YOU TELL so i can get even more galaxy brained abt it"
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also i'm the kind of autistic person that also got really good at lying.
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I have enough other autism symptoms that I do just chalk up the lying to like everyone's symptoms are a little different, but I do also think that the lying is more of an innate quality than a learned one and that it's like, fully me mechanically working differently from a majority of other autistic people starting from the processing level
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so it becomes something to consider in how I navigate things in comparison to other people in general
nihaowdy
basically I'm the sort of person who never faked sick to get out of school until i HAD MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER GET ME A FUCKING TAXI SO I COULD GO TO SCHOOL THE DAY AFTER MY MOM DIED and then just, realized not going to school was a legitimate option? i then missed SO much of third grade.
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nihaowdy
me in microcosm is "wait i can lie? /has to go through a stop fucking lying tree character arc"
塔露拉·雅特利亞斯
wait is "can't stand lotion" a
塔露拉·雅特利亞斯
hm.
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stares at hands
nihaowdy
also can't stand lotion is Real and i hates it
nihaowdy
especially since my diabetic ass, needs to lotion my feets
nihaowdy
and at my last job i needed to lotions my handses
nihaowdy
it was bad.
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塔露拉·雅特利亞斯 : I MEAN IT'S DEFINITELY A Weird Sensory Experience and as we know, autistic people love those
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fakeharmless: Hell
nihaowdy
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FUCK LOTION FR
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i try so hard because i like the smell of it
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but it's like
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it's on my hands now and it won't get off of my hands help
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i already have to obsessively wash my hands and face after like, eating greasy stuff
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why would i put greasy shit on my hands/face WILLINGLY
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RE: toy story, i don't think it affected me quite as much as the brave little toaster but i think that's purely because the brave little toaster got there first. by the time toy story happened i was already terrified of the idea of my toys being real and hurting them if i threw them away.
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weirdly i really like lotion but i also just have other wacky sensory things like "wearing gloves often causes me to want to wiggle myself out of my skin"
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GLOVES ARE SO FUCKING BAD
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i had to fucking wear gloves when i went back to work during the panini and i just opted out of working.
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i didn't realize back then i was suffering from EXTREME OVERSTIMULATION SENSORY SHIT
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because we had to wear gloves, and a hair net, and masks, and also i had to keep track of so many things i didn't have to keep track of before, and also my awareness of germs was Increased To An Anxiety Inducing Level so i just
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straight up opted to not work during the panini and not get paid
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i used "i'm afraid of my very at risk parents whomst i live with getting sick" as an excuse, which wasn't UNTRUE
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but the core issue was truly "i am in hell every day now."
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i didn't come into this plurk so i could be attacked for my lotion hatred
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i didn't ask to be Seen like this
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who even likes lotion couldn't be me
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mora is ok with lotion
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i don't believe you
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fake news
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my mom likes lotion too but she's a fake person, probably
lotus 龙 wife
I like lush lotion but it tends to have a much more solid texture
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IT'S JUST ON MY HANDS NOW AND CURSING EVERYTHING I TOUCH
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actually wait bc Moelle brought up sexuality stuff in hers. one other thing. this is not 'I feel less autistic due to this' it's more like 'sometimes my probable autism collides with other people's autism in a way that makes multiple people have a bad autism day,' as you do
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but I've learned that the gender and aromanticism discussions in the autism community these days (or maybe more like the autism discussion in the gender and aromaticism communities Idk either way) will just send me right the fuck to space
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cuz like. IMAGINING WE ARE ALL TRYING TO COMPREHEND THESE CONCEPTS WITH NEBULOUS BOUNDARIES THAT SEEM TO HAVE BEEN MOSTLY LAID OUT BY ALLISTIC PEOPLE
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to talk more on the romance side of it cuz that's punched me in the face way more recently, it's become like 'I think I have identified these boundaries for what a standard romance is meant to entail and so everything outside of that which I actually relate to is not romance but some other kind of love'
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and I went in the opposite direction of 'the boundaries for this were unclear so everything is romance now because I say so'
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but this means that I would sometimes on twitter see discussion which identified 'here is a kind of love which I as an aromantic autistic person have identified as non-romantic' and it would be like slamming my face into a wall of YOUR VERSION OF ROMANCE DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE IT'S NOT STANDARD ENOUGH
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i think that would also set me off
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because i also don't. really align with the socially accepted form of "romance", but i absolutely identify as a romantic person
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i live for romance
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i'm on the ace spectrum, but i'm definitely romantic
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but also uhhhh society tells me that a romantic relationship doesn't count if you're not also fucking them so
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TRAGICALLY SOMETIMES WHAT ONE PERSON FINDS DEEPLY RESONANT AND VALIDATING MAKES ANOTHER PERSON FEEL LIKE SHIT
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i've definitely reached a point of "romance is whatever i say it is"
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sobs tragically
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i just choose to not perceive if i see it, but it does slap me
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but it's like
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for me "gender is fake" is a validating sentence, but for others it's absolutely not
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and that's like.... unpleasant, but these two things can be true simultaneously
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gender is fake FOR ME
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romance does not have to include sex FOR ME
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romance can be whatever i say it is FOR ME, and if an aromantic person doesn't see this as romance and they like it for that reason then that's fine for them
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but also we cannot date then because i need romance to live-
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gender is real and I'm all of the genders now
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love that for you
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you can take all the gender
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what does that mean? yes
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my gender is now officially cute dog boy in a maid dress
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GOOD
nihaowdy
god sex and romance like ?????????
nihaowdy
I'm the no take only throw dog but with sex and romance
nihaowdy
which is unfortunate
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LMAOOO
nihaowdy
...i realize that statement could come across as selfish but mostly it means I'm useless
nihaowdy
luckily i am saying these things in my significant other's plurk ig
a girl in love
you handshake me please deposit/perceive romance even when I make zero clear indication of this
nihaowdy
SOLID HANDSHAKE
nihaowdy
the attention span may fuck off but the love remains
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romance is linking a video of a dude saying he'd never break your heart but he would break your bones and the exchange going "this is me" "yeah this is why i follow this guy"
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yes.
paradisaea
i am late to this plurk and so tired words have vanished so this is a tired cat laying a paw of solidarity upon you
paradisaea
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