BANNED CLOWN
Me, a fool who opens Twitter and goes "oh, Ashkenazi is trending, I wonder why--"
BANNED CLOWN
Anyway I got three tweets in and found a take about how Anne Frank's "white privilege" gained her access to the attic she hid in, so I closed the tab.
BANNED CLOWN
Like I have a pretty complicated relationship to my Jewishness (which is Ashkenazi on that side!) to begin with, I don't need to deep-read the latest wave of American race politics projected onto a huge category of global diaspora, which is apparently happening because of Kanye West but I don't care to read further.
Usagi
BANNED CLOWN
𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑦𝑎 𝑘𝑖𝑛𝑑𝑙𝑦
ah yes, that white privilege of staying in a small attic with four other people, hoping beyond hope that you won't die while everybody you know may have already died, oh and in the end it didn't even save em
𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑦𝑎 𝑘𝑖𝑛𝑑𝑙𝑦
yes, that white priviledge
𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑦𝑎 𝑘𝑖𝑛𝑑𝑙𝑦
because as we all know, jewish people were definitely viewed as the whitest of white in nazi-occupied europe
𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑦𝑎 𝑘𝑖𝑛𝑑𝑙𝑦
(hell, Europe in general, even the places where the nazis weren't still had plenty of anti-semitism.)
𝕘𝕣𝕖𝕖𝕟 𝕤𝕝𝕚𝕞𝕖
Anne frank's white privilege: dying,
🐅 its harry
stares into the sun
BANNED CLOWN
Yeah, my dad's heritage was I guess in Belgium, and I feel obligated to note (yet again) that besides him and his parents, his entire family tree is capital-M Missing. But apparently Belgium is still pretty antisemitic NOW, so...
papermint tiger
Ugggggggggggh
papermint tiger
Yeah I've heard some of the shit Kanye's been spewing, it's upsetting
BANNED CLOWN
Yeah I have... additional issues, as a psychotic person, battling with all the ableism I'm seeing ABOUT it. Like, "why isn't he in a conservatorship instead of Britney" BECAUSE THOSE ARE BLANKET BAD, ANTISEMITISM IS ALSO BAD, THESE AREN'T MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.
papermint tiger
The man might need some kind of help, I couldn't say, but yeah controlling someone like that is not okay. I just wish he'd stop being given platforms to spew his crap
BANNED CLOWN
It's pretty well accepted he's having a manic/psychotic episode (he has bipolar, not sure which type) and, yeah, he is, but the best bthing to do with it is deplatform him, blanket ban on his public word until he's stable againn
papermint tiger
i wish they would
Calliente
I had to scream into my hands the other day when someone was like "am I a bad person for wanting a hate crime to happen to him"
Calliente
YES, JANICE, ACTUALLY,
Calliente
DO YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND WHY THE SHIT HE'S SAYING IS BAD???
Calliente
IT IS BECAUSE. HATE CRIMES. ARE A BAD THING
Calliente
AND SO IS ADVOCATING FOR THEM/THE PEOPLE WHO COMMIT THEM
Calliente
The absolute peak of "did not understand the assignment"
Infychu
If Twitter actually fucking FUNCTIONED anymore, I'd just want him to get banned, or at least suspended for a couple months so he can stop spewing sewage while he gets his shit together.
Infychu
There's no way any episode is MAKING him a hateful piece of shit, but it sure did probably vaporize his brain to mouth filter.
Calliente
Yeah, like...clearly he already believed this stuff
Calliente
Mental illness doesn't make you a Nazi/Nazi enthusiast, a complete lack of compassion and extreme gullibility does that
Calliente
Part of me kind of wonders if we should be oddly grateful to his bipolar episode for making him go so blatantly mask-off so suddenly, to the point where he's alienating people he might have tried to peddle these awful views to on a more careful drip feed otherwise
Calliente
A ton of people on his subreddit are not just done with him but encouraging the subreddit be closed outright rather than let it become a hotbed for anti-Semitic nonsense
Calliente
Which has been oddly wholesome to see
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Calliente
: SCREAMING. SCREAMING.
BANNED CLOWN
Infychu
: Also, though, the good(?) news is that's actually not true. The "mask off" theory of psychosis is... wrong as well. It can absolutely make you believe heinous stuff you never would normally. Amongst other things, that's partly why it's called a "break with reality."
BANNED CLOWN
The issue is really that he's a man having an episode surrounded by a society and culture that benefits from antisemitism. Same way a lot of people with religious backgrounds have religious delusions, especially when encouraged by people around them.
BANNED CLOWN
It's unfortunately completely possible the underlying values he had were, for example, concerned about racial injustice, the same way Andrea Yates was afraid of being a bad mom.
Infychu
Oh true, I guess if he's specifically having delusions or hallucinations, that could be the case.
Infychu
I'm not actually following this because I don't want to doomscroll, so I'm not actually sure of the specifics of his situation or of the nonsense he's spouting.
BANNED CLOWN
Yeah the fact that he has unmanaged bipolar is where I'm like OH NO...... OH NOO....
BANNED CLOWN
It's kind of disconcerting to watch this all happen with that perspective, tbh. Especially the way people are really taking advantage of him to further THEIR agendas.... like, he SHOULD NOT have a platform, this man should NOT be allowed to be a mouthpiece for hate. But also his specific part could potentially be really depressing 10 years from now.
BANNED CLOWN
It's like layers of "holy shit this SUCKS"
Calliente
Oh, huh, my bad - I'm familiar with bipolar disorder mainly as wild mood swings, not psychosis/delusions/hallucinations, so I didn't realize it could genuinely present as Beliefs The Person Doesn't Really Hold
Calliente
(One of my best friends is bipolar, but he's very much in the uncontrollable mood swings camp re: how it presents)
Calliente
(And due to Capitalism Fuckery, he's often unmedicated)
Infychu
Yeah, I was thinking in terms of mania, not psychosis.
Infychu
And that includes ridiculous stupid impulsive bullshit, so. vv
Calliente
Obviously there ARE mental illnesses that can make you act in ways not consistent with your actual personality/beliefs, I just didn't realize being bipolar was one of them :|a
Calliente
Much more familiar with the 'extremely intense, impulsive, ultra-activated version of oneself, alternating with crushing depressive episodes" presentation
Calliente
But as somebody on the spectrum, I guess I should be more used to the idea of mental issues being able to present themselves in a whole variety of ways, some of them barely resembling each other
BANNED CLOWN
Yeah, bipolar can cause psychotic symptoms, there's also psychotic depression. I've even noticed sort of a weird issue in the general understanding of psychosis where people mash mood disorder symptoms and psychotic symptoms together in their idea of what psychosis looks like.
BANNED CLOWN
It's actually really interesting to me personally as someone who experiences schizophrenia-psychosis without mood disorder symptoms, BUT that's sort of a side topic snamgdjd the point is: yeah Kanye's not okay and he's not totally in touch with reality.
BANNED CLOWN
He could be that AND a bigot, but he might also be having a break with reality that is gonna really suck for him later
BANNED CLOWN
We just don't know!
𝕘𝕣𝕖𝕖𝕟 𝕤𝕝𝕚𝕞𝕖
based on all the stuff he said before he started having his breakdown, I really don't think he did believe this before, tbh
𝕘𝕣𝕖𝕖𝕟 𝕤𝕝𝕚𝕞𝕖
it sucks to see from a mental health perspective but also aaaaAAAAAAAA