Princess Emily
[emily reads light novels] NO THIS ISN'T HOW MMOS WORK 
Dragons Dragons
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Princess Emily
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ONLY ONE COPY OF AN ITEM PER SERVER OR ONLY ONE PERSON BEING TO PLAY A CLASS OR RACE PER SERVER??? GOD!!!
Princess Emily
imagine if real mmos did that! and then that player got bored and left and now nobody on that server gets to see or play as that race or class ever again, the end,
Rogal Dorn
I thought everquest or star wars galaxies did that shit early on
Rogal Dorn
And it was a TERRIBLE IDEA
Rogal Dorn
the item thing, not the race or class though initially getting jedi in SWG was nearly impossible
Princess Emily
I could see it being tried in the early days but it didn't take a genius to realize why it's terrible
Princess Emily
you program things because you want players to use them
Walker
This the Undead Princess one?
Walker
...it says a lot about MMO LNs that I read this and actually require clarification
Princess Emily
Princess Emily
so yeah I guess
Walker
ah, yup
Walker
the MMO where character creation is so complicated they created personalized AIs for every player to help them through it
Walker
and then added a slider to just make the AI dogshit stupid for no reason whatsoever
Walker
a player-facing slider, let me be specific
Goldude
This is painful on a spiritual level
Princess Emily
it's so dumb. they want their MC to be one of a kind and super special, in an MMO, and so they make some class or race or magic item set that only one exists of in the entire game?? like,??
Princess Emily
God, why choose an MMO of you want to do super special one of a kind shenanigans?
Princess Emily
and if you do you could at least, like,
Princess Emily
just make it an MMO with a lot of moving parts and choices, and just have the MC discovery cool combinations within it
Doge-lover Joja
make your character using the keyword system from .hack
M'I HEMO
can't believe .hack ruined mmo stories by saying "my mc got special powers from a glitch" and becoming super famous, so now every story ever is too cowardly to do the same thing for fear of being called copy cats /s
Tangent
its so weird to me that they try to make characters special THROUGH the mechanics, when most of the ACTUALLY cool noteworthy stories in MMOs are people who do things in DEFIANCE of the mechanics/design or by MASTERING the mechanics to the level that they can do something like magetanking
Tangent
Its so much less cool when its just like, oh yeah the system says you can do this but only you.
Cold XC
I get that it's harder to write but like
Cold XC
at least try and fail?!
Tangent
These stories rarely feature FUN mmos either, because usually the mc has to rescue people from the constant pvp and item stealing that for some reason doesn't deter anyone from playing.
Tangent
Like if there were bullshit character gen stuff going on, thats one thing, but if the game isn't FUN for most people why is anyone there.
Princess Emily
Another weird thing that for SOME REASON I see a lot of in MMO light novels is, like,
Princess Emily
server-wide gated progression
Princess Emily
where there's like, some big boss that needs to be beaten before more parts of the world open up
Princess Emily
and like that's normal-ish to have individual access gated to story progression or winning a dungeon, but this is always presented as "NOBODY in the MMO can access this area until SOMEBODY defeats this one boss, once"
Princess Emily
like.....? so this entire thing will only be done once in the entire run of this MMO and will never be seen again?
Cold XC
how have this many authors just have never played a game
Princess Emily
anybody who buys this game like in a month will never experience this?
Princess Emily
only one person does this???
Princess Emily
I think they're just copying fucking Sword Art Online for that one
Princess Emily
but it just makes ZERO sense
Tangent
Honestly those types of events CAN be really cool in MMOs (some people still talk about WoWs big once-per-server dungeon opening thing) but they usually involve a LOT of people besides the final party contributing SOMETHING to the intermediate steps
Tangent
if these were ACTUAL MMOs then it would become an exciting thing when a new server was stood up because then all the people who've never been a part of it before get a chance to do it, but in these stories MMOs are always one giant superserver anyway so that can't happen.
Vehrec
also you can re-run those dungeons