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[utena] finished it. final tierlist below.
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i also watched the movie
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overall i really liked both, though the movie has still left me reeling in confusion
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You wanna hear the great theory I heard about the movie
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it did have shiori turn herself into a car which is a 10/10 already
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oh?
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So the theory goes like this:
Ohtori Academy is stuck in an eternal timeloop that keeps replaying every time Akio fails to get Dios' power (see: the mingling of characters who are dead and alive such as Mikage, the existence/non-existence of various buildings)
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The movie is not a retelling of the series, but the final timeloop after Anthy breaks free of Akio thanks to Utena
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that explains some things yeah
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see: she no longer has her glasses (left on his desk when she left), she seems to know Utena already (though Utena has forgotten in the timeloop reset), Akio is dead to begin with and this is why the academy is falling apart in the movie
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I saw a youtube video give that theory and I went "oh holy shit I like that so much better than 'it's a retelling of the series'"
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it's definitely not a retelling of the series
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this is a good list
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also time to drop some utena amvs
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ooh. a good theory, I accept it
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In the final timeloop Anthy is in control and she can remember the series, all she has to do is awaken Utena and they can gtfo forever
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i wonder how that fits in with touya being dead though...
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Touga's been dead the whole time just like Mikage
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Here, let me find that video for you
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Her analysis is spot on
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ohhhh my god wait
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and then
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at the end of the last loop juri brought up the boy who died, and said she couldn't remember him
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HUH
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YEAH
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omg literal eclipse of the heart
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It touches on themes of the whole series but she does a whole section on the movie and lays out this theory
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(also iirc Nanami in particular is really sad about the boy who died in that same scene........)
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ngl Touga's a shitter but the elevator scene in the movie makes me cry every time
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I would link some good utena discussions but alas I'm at work
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She has another video all about Nanami that is also very good
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just about every character in this series is so tragic
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I have no good meta, but stupid doodles
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just some gorgeous girls
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😭
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hell yeah hell yeah
working lunars
THEM...
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the movie.........
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"you're not the only one who can turn into a car"
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that was my favourite line
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there was a commentary option in the dvd and the director went silent during that part
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not even he could explain it
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my interpretation is that it's "you're not the only one who can wield the power of lesbian sex, I TOO HAVE THE POWER OF LESBIAN SEX"
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since. idc what anyone says that's what utena turning into a car shaped like a diagram of a vagina was.
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shiori in this movie confused me so much
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and touga being dead the whole time confuses the issue even more
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shiori fucking touga feels like something something comphet
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he is like the ghost of toxic masculinity comphet past or something
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yeah...... yeah
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it's amazing like
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how many men in utena are Dead All Along
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while still also being real and present characters
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something something the ongoing trauma of patriarchy in women's lives
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just realized the only living male character in utena would be saionji that way
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oh wait miki too
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and ig tsuwabaki but like, i don't care for him
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most of nanami's admirers are.... okay. but she herself is a pretty good character
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nanami is top tier
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character of all time
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maybe being dead doesn't mean ur dead. you know how it is.
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looks at my icon
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