Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:23 PM
+
MUTE
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:23 PM
𝕧𝕕𝕠𝕧𝕒
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:23 PM
and anyone else
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:23 PM
SO lets go back in time for a bit
𝕧𝕕𝕠𝕧𝕒
@loyalwolf
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:23 PM
ohhi. yes I am actually interested in knowing the Story here lol
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:24 PM
SO - in 2005 RTD brought back Doctor from a
16 year hiatus
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:24 PM
in 1989, the ratings were just bad and they ended Doctor 7 without even regenerating him
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:25 PM
the canon continued on through comics and novals
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:25 PM
there was a 1996 movie where 7 did regenerate into Paul McGaun and it was a BBC and Fox Network production
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:25 PM
let me say that again - Fox Network
𝕧𝕕𝕠𝕧𝕒
@loyalwolf
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:25 PM
oh boy
𝕧𝕕𝕠𝕧𝕒
@loyalwolf
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:25 PM
Fox
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:26 PM
needless to say it flopped but not because of Paul
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:27 PM
so Who disappeared from the airwaves again and Buffy proved to be highly successful
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:28 PM
so the joke about Doctor Who coming back from the dead stopped in 2005 when Russel T Davis brough back Who with Chris eccleston as The Doctor
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:28 PM
and going to today
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:28 PM
The BBC treated the 2005 reboot like they did with Who from 1963- 1989
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:28 PM
Very mim budget
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:29 PM
but 2006 - 2012ish, The BBC just wrote RTD and Moffat a blank check
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:29 PM
there was a writer strike during some of 11s run
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:30 PM
so Doctor Who started streaming online, I believe it was 2009
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:31 PM
Moffat took over from 2008 - 2017
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:31 PM
After Moffat's very long run, no one else but Chris Chibnall wanted to follow
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:32 PM
and Chibnall already have successful BBC dramas, the BBC didnt question
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:32 PM
the BBC spent an entire year with PR for Jodi being the first female Doctor and her ratings for her two first epsiodes were great
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:33 PM
and well - lets just say that in 2020 the BBC was ready to shut down Who
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:33 PM
the ratings were worse than Moffat's worse ratings
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:33 PM
and then the 2021 special happened and great ratings so they got another season
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:34 PM
so that brings us today, Chris Chibnall for whatever his reasons for wanting to go - is going and RTD is coming back
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:34 PM
The thing is - the BBC is - done with Doctor Who
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:34 PM
and RTD brought Doctor who in 2021
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:34 PM
at least the NuWho I haven't heard about Classic
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:34 PM
During his time away RTD made his own company Bad Wolf
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:35 PM
and has Its A Sin and His Dark MAterials on HBO Max
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:35 PM
The problem with HBO max is that its limted with regions
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:35 PM
namely only the US and Canada
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:35 PM
The BBC has said they're not airing Doctor Who after Jodi's regeneration in the Fall
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:35 PM
The BBC is like PBS
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:36 PM
they're goverment funded
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:36 PM
and they're not getting funded
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:36 PM
and their airing license isnt renewed just yet and that expires in the next few years
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:36 PM
so - RTD is going to be producing
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:37 PM
BBC will market and PR
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:37 PM
but there's no streaming service
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:37 PM
Which brings us to why RTD is talking to Disney + atm
𝕧𝕕𝕠𝕧𝕒
@loyalwolf
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:37 PM
what a mess lmao
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:37 PM
Yuuuup
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:38 PM
But RTD also doesnt want to anything more than
just
stream on Disney +
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:38 PM
and hence why we're going on a week exactly that in talks were annournced
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:39 PM
RTD doesnt want The Mouse having his completely gay Docto 14
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:39 PM
which ya know who could blame him?
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:40 PM
and the 60th will that is in filming has other woke things The Mouse probably wouldnt like either
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:40 PM
which the 60th will be aired first by RTD before the next season
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:42 PM
but yeah, RTD isnt gonna have The Mouse breathing down his neck about some thing
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:42 PM
Like the BBC did about Jack's bum being on camera
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:42 PM
which they cut out even if RTD debated the fact of the bare bum
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:43 PM
RTDs family friendly is a little atypical
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:43 PM
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:45 PM
Its been a week of discussion, Im sure there's debating over control and RTD wanting 100% control
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:45 PM
nothing for you, Mouse!
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:46 PM
so if things go the best way
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:46 PM
There are no crossovers with MCU sorry
𝕧𝕕𝕠𝕧𝕒
@loyalwolf
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:47 PM
lmao
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:47 PM
of course the Who community is like The Doctor being in Loki or M.O.M would be AMAZING
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:47 PM
But we dont want The Mouse to have our Doctor
𝕧𝕕𝕠𝕧𝕒
@loyalwolf
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:47 PM
yeah but....
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:47 PM
and some of them fail to understand that for a crossover to happen Disney would have to own some
𝕧𝕕𝕠𝕧𝕒
@loyalwolf
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:47 PM
it's not that likely it'll be allowed to be on D+ and them not have a stake in control
𝕧𝕕𝕠𝕧𝕒
@loyalwolf
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:48 PM
sssooo
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:48 PM
and we dont want Disney not making Doctor Who not woke
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:48 PM
and I dont think RTD wants to fight Disney like he didnt want to fight the BBC in the early 2000s
𝕧𝕕𝕠𝕧𝕒
@loyalwolf
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:48 PM
can he do it w/o them
𝕧𝕕𝕠𝕧𝕒
@loyalwolf
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:48 PM
b/c lol
𝕧𝕕𝕠𝕧𝕒
@loyalwolf
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:48 PM
otherwise i don't see this going in any positive way at all and it just ends the series entirely?
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:48 PM
Doctor 14 wouldnt be outwardly gay if the mouse is involved lets be honest
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:49 PM
and thats RTDs plan
𝕧𝕕𝕠𝕧𝕒
@loyalwolf
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:49 PM
yeah i get that but i'm just saying
𝕧𝕕𝕠𝕧𝕒
@loyalwolf
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:49 PM
there's no way Disney is going to be like "sure, stream your show here, but we will not have a hand in your production What So Ever"
𝕧𝕕𝕠𝕧𝕒
@loyalwolf
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:49 PM
like that's the most unrealistic expectation to have
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:49 PM
and hence why its been a week
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:49 PM
and still no agreement
𝕧𝕕𝕠𝕧𝕒
@loyalwolf
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:50 PM
so either he's gonna have to bend. or he's gonna have to shop to another network or make his own
𝕧𝕕𝕠𝕧𝕒
@loyalwolf
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:50 PM
like
𝕧𝕕𝕠𝕧𝕒
@loyalwolf
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:50 PM
lmfao
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:50 PM
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:50 PM
The Mouse has met its match
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:50 PM
So I call this krama for every time Disney wasnt Woke
𝕧𝕕𝕠𝕧𝕒
@loyalwolf
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:50 PM
i highly highly doubt this is going to work out, for anyone, at this point lol
𝕧𝕕𝕠𝕧𝕒
@loyalwolf
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:51 PM
unless he has other prospects We, The Public just don't know about rn
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:51 PM
^
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:52 PM
I mean - RTD could cut and paste a stream service
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:52 PM
but - it wouldnt be fun since I have a feeling the 60th is supposed to be airing on Christmas
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:52 PM
^ nothing offical just a feeling
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:53 PM
given RTD started the Christmas special idea
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:53 PM
but yes, you're right this is a stalemate
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 9:59 PM
but yeah, we all remember when Fox Network tried to write Doctor Who
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 10:00 PM
never again with that
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 10:00 PM
also - it is a rule for now, that American writers
cannot
write for Who
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 10:00 PM
Stephen King really really wanted too
𝕧𝕕𝕠𝕧𝕒
@loyalwolf
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 10:01 PM
i can't imagine a Stephen King take on Who lmfao
𝕧𝕕𝕠𝕧𝕒
@loyalwolf
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 10:01 PM
idk that's what we need lolol
𝕧𝕕𝕠𝕧𝕒
@loyalwolf
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 10:01 PM
much as i love King
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 10:10 PM
LOL
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 10:11 PM
I think he could do it to be honest
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 10:11 PM
there;s already darkness that eats you
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 10:11 PM
literally eats your flesh - so
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 10:12 PM
He could just rip himself off and give us fog that eats your flesh
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 10:13 PM
or some kind of Pennywise though there sorta is
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 10:14 PM
but yeah, King would be just fine with writing Who
𝓛unacuno
@lunayoshi
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 10:32 PM
I have no solutions to this problem. Maybe Netflix or something? They had it a decade ago.
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 10:34 PM
I wish I could tell you why Netflix hasnt been included
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 10:35 PM
idk why RTD went to Disney + unless Netflix did say no
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 10:36 PM
so yes thats a solution
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 10:37 PM
But idk if that was an avenue already taken and denied or not
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 10:43 PM
but just based that RTD is going on an entire week with The Mouse
Vincent Gogh
@weefolk
Tue, Aug 2, 2022 10:43 PM
I have feeling Netflix said no
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