Quinneapolis
I fell onto a channel where a therapist and a film guy team up to discuss psychology in movies and here's something about Tangled
Quinneapolis
whenever mom is praising rapunzel she's doing it while touching her hair, looking at her hair
Quinneapolis
she kisses rapunzel's hair
Quinneapolis
when flynn is looking at rapunzel, he moves her hair out of the way so he can look at her face
Quinneapolis
because he cares about rapunzel and mom cares about rapunzel's hair
Quinneapolis
so she only praises the part of rapunzel that serves her
Quinneapolis
there's a foundational book on gaslighting that lists the 11 signs of gaslighting and mother gothel is 11 for 11
AzureChrysanthemum
It's so wild how often I hear people say "Rapunzel is what got me to understand how terrible my parent(s) are"
Quinneapolis
AzureChrysanthemum
Since it gave viewers a whole-ass map to toxic parental behavior and spends the whole runtime going THIS IS REALLY BAD
RobotApocalypse
oh !! i love this channel, they're real good
RobotApocalypse
they're also really inclusive and having a therapist there means they're also really thoughtful and considerate when discussing mental illness and how it's often depicted in films
Quinneapolis
yeah
Quinneapolis
I'm subbed now
ShootingXC
interest piqued
Quinneapolis
"And so make sure you have someone else in your life to give you an outside perspective."
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Quinneapolis
was Gothel the last disney villain who got a real villain song
Snowdrops ミ☆
They did a Silent Voice too I think, really interesting stuff
AzureChrysanthemum
I think they talk about the musical therapy in the Coco video as well
AzureChrysanthemum
Which is legit just fascinating
TWO OF THEM
tamatoa got one in moana
Quinneapolis
oh yeah tamatoa
Quinneapolis
he was kind of a weird case
TWO OF THEM
yeah he's in the movie for 4 seconds
Quinneapolis
in that he's like, the closest thing the movie has to a villain
Quinneapolis
but he's very much off on the side
TWO OF THEM
like...tamatoa is not a disney villain but shiny is a disney villain song
Quinneapolis
moana was sort of a halfway transition to the modern disney movie style of not really having villains and just being about people and their relationships
Quinneapolis
Coco had a guy but that movie really felt more pixar house style than disney house style
Quinneapolis
and he didn't get a villain song
Quinneapolis
he was a villain, and he got songs, but they were not villain songs
dragon time
Because he stole all his fucking songs, the rotter
BERSERKER
Was princess and the frog before or after tangled because facilier absolutely got a villain song
Quinneapolis
I think before
Quinneapolis
yeah frog was 2009, tangled was 2010
BERSERKER
Ah okay I knew they were real close so I didn't know which came first
Quinneapolis
it's close
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