Quinn Angstrom
I fell onto a channel where a therapist and a film guy team up to discuss psychology in movies and here's something about Tangled
Quinn Angstrom
whenever mom is praising rapunzel she's doing it while touching her hair, looking at her hair
Quinn Angstrom
she kisses rapunzel's hair
Quinn Angstrom
when flynn is looking at rapunzel, he moves her hair out of the way so he can look at her face
Quinn Angstrom
because he cares about rapunzel and mom cares about rapunzel's hair
Quinn Angstrom
so she only praises the part of rapunzel that serves her
Quinn Angstrom
there's a foundational book on gaslighting that lists the 11 signs of gaslighting and mother gothel is 11 for 11
AzureChrysanthemum
It's so wild how often I hear people say "Rapunzel is what got me to understand how terrible my parent(s) are"
Quinn Angstrom
AzureChrysanthemum
Since it gave viewers a whole-ass map to toxic parental behavior and spends the whole runtime going THIS IS REALLY BAD
RobotApocalypse
oh !! i love this channel, they're real good
RobotApocalypse
they're also really inclusive and having a therapist there means they're also really thoughtful and considerate when discussing mental illness and how it's often depicted in films
Quinn Angstrom
yeah
Quinn Angstrom
I'm subbed now
HotXC
interest piqued
Quinn Angstrom
"And so make sure you have someone else in your life to give you an outside perspective."
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Quinn Angstrom
was Gothel the last disney villain who got a real villain song
Snowdrops ミ☆
They did a Silent Voice too I think, really interesting stuff
AzureChrysanthemum
I think they talk about the musical therapy in the Coco video as well
AzureChrysanthemum
Which is legit just fascinating
GAY TENNA?
tamatoa got one in moana
Quinn Angstrom
oh yeah tamatoa
Quinn Angstrom
he was kind of a weird case
GAY TENNA?
yeah he's in the movie for 4 seconds
Quinn Angstrom
in that he's like, the closest thing the movie has to a villain
Quinn Angstrom
but he's very much off on the side
GAY TENNA?
like...tamatoa is not a disney villain but shiny is a disney villain song
Quinn Angstrom
moana was sort of a halfway transition to the modern disney movie style of not really having villains and just being about people and their relationships
Quinn Angstrom
Coco had a guy but that movie really felt more pixar house style than disney house style
Quinn Angstrom
and he didn't get a villain song
Quinn Angstrom
he was a villain, and he got songs, but they were not villain songs
dragon time
Because he stole all his fucking songs, the rotter
penis bacon
Was princess and the frog before or after tangled because facilier absolutely got a villain song
Quinn Angstrom
I think before
Quinn Angstrom
yeah frog was 2009, tangled was 2010
penis bacon
Ah okay I knew they were real close so I didn't know which came first
Quinn Angstrom
it's close
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