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[Media Musing] a conversation i had recently (i.e. just now) has got me thinking about how, like. probably the biggest thing holding back queer stories from getting more spotlight other than corporations being awful is that totally cis, straight writers are afraid of getting them wrong
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and for these guys who are actually really good allies and care about these issues that's an understandable anxiety to have
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since there are a lot of intentionally awful caricatures/bad faith portrayals in popular media
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predatory gay men, lesbians portrayed fetishistically, incredibly transphobic crossdresser stereotypes, etc.
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but also, like
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if we only wrote what we knew we wouldn't have fantasy stories
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being honest a lot of my favorite portrayals of Gender overall in media have been from really earnest and passionate cis guys
Gabiluzbad
“Write what you know” led to a proliferation of books about middle age college professors contemplating adultery with their students
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fukaboku, umineko, etc. are both really resonant in ways that i have rarely seen even stuff made by queer authors replicate
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and there's also how, like
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fukaboku was very close to BEING one of those bad, stereotypical media
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until the author took a chance to get educated and really passionate about this stuff
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you shouldn't write what you know, you should write what you want to learn about
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that's how you broaden your worldview
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
i feel like the cheat-code to this issue is to put more pressure on the Big Names who say they want to be allies to be allies by going to bat for marginalized creators. Like how Riordan does in his Presents series.
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and also exploring these subjects can also lead to personal realizations!
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like most people online treated it as another Bit but andrew hussie genuinely ended up transing their gender a few years ago
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
Like it's great when cis-straight (white) writers want to do those stories right, and it sucks if they feel they might fuck it up so bad they're too afraid to Be That Guy, but if you have the power and pull, use it to open that door for someone else and guide them with all that experience you have
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yeah
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
you don't have to worry about doing it yourself then, just making sure someone who can or would has the opportunity to do so
pixie lovemail
after writing a story that had as much Deep Queer Feelings as homestuck despite her supposedly being a "cis straight dude" it's very likely that the reason why he ended up examining gender was because of writing that story
Mega
I feel like the best way to go is to just have sensitivity readers and reach out to the audiences they want to represent to make sure they do it well and in good faith
Mega
talk to people and listen to understand the perspectives
Kαтѕσηα 2025✰
that too. like the creative team for encanto went to colombia to learn and experience and get insight on how to do it right and that really benefitted in how earnest and real that movie comes across
Mega
I'm honestly grateful for all the input I've gotten from trans and nonbinary readers with Inverted Fate, tbh
Mega
because even within the UT fandom, people try to undermine those identities (esp. nonbinary Dx)
Lightning Bolt
you've gotta start from a position of love
Jaydee
I will say this as a bi-leaning guy, there is a fear of fucking up with subjects and peoples you feel sympathetic to, and it might be bigger for those working for big IPs.
Jaydee
Obviously, one has to study as much as possible about the subject in order to portray it well, but that lingering feeling will always follow the artist whenever if their story is problematic and has stereotypes, whenever if they will accidentally offend a culture, whenever if they got things wrong from their research, and so on.
Jaydee
Sensitivity writers are utterly important, indeed, and if you're going to go public on a story, it is a must-have on your writing process. But, just as well, what is offensive to some may be chill to others, and vice-versa.
Mega
yeah, there's that, too
Mega
especially in this age of contrasting views on certain topics brought about by the internet bringing different generations together
Mega
(for instance, whether or not it's good to reclaim queercoded villains/characters, etc. that's very ymmv)
Wolfgirl Winter
yeah there's a certain point where "fear of getting things wrong" just, segregates story telling in a way that feels just as bad, and small and fan products might not have a sensitivity reader(s) on hand. so at least speaking for me and being trans and autistic i'd rather just see people try
Thx everybody!
Red from overly sarcastic productions said it best: it’s less ‘write what you know,’ and more ‘know what you write’
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IE: do research, talk to the groups in question, sensitivity read, etc
Mega
Yeah, 100%. If you never broaden your horizons, it'll limit the kinds of stories you can write, which avoids growth as both a writer and a person
Mega
It's good to expose oneself to new information and perspectives
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this plurk is such a big juicy worm LOL
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my egg literally got cracked by fukaboku!! and i know it sort of put to paper a lot of feelings other similarly Gendery folks were feeling around the time we were all reading it
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a lot of the rep of characters like me that has resonated with me deeply hascome from (as far as i know) cis writers
Mega
I think a big thing is- stuff like gender is such a personal thing. Different people handle it in different ways, and different topics may resonate differently, etc.
Mega
like, for instance, someone in my server had their egg cracked by MLP Equestria Girls. That experience was uniquely hers
Mega
hell, my own experience with gender is still very ???? because idk if I'm gnc cis or nonbinary. :-P
CERTAINTY
the thing is i also think even queer people writing from their own experiences can sometimes still be met with an extremely critical response if that experience is something that people could consider wrong. there are some tropes that have real life prejudice and homophobia baked into them which is always annoying because sometimes i personally like them?
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queercoded villains are my jam for one. and it's annoying as hell that even though i like them there's still an element of demonizing to it that i think only comes about because writers are so hesitant to include queerness in their stories so representation ends up being lopsided as hell.
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Saying this as a cis white dude in the midst of writing campaigns that include a lot of queer, poc, and politically-varied characters
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it's seriously super simple, alright? okay
i'ma tell you a secret
the one trick writers don't want you to know
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treat characters as though they are individuals with wants and drives, who have agency in their own story and the same level of common humanity that you would ascribe to your viewpoint character
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also if you suspect you are doing something wrong, ask.
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It costs you nothing to approach a person who is from thatt community and just say 'Hey, I know I'm portraying this character as a trans man but I'd like your honest feedback on how this is going'
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'Is there anything I'm being insensitive about or that I could do better about this character'
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It seriously just takes empathy and humility. Most people, when they sense you're genuinely trying your best and have just erred, will not bite your head off, especially if you come to them.
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of course corporations will almost never do that because shit is written by fucking committee
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