Forget the Golden Witch discussion and notes plurk. Idk about how long it is, but given it took a small amount of time comparitively to get to the first twilight, I feel I might be able to get the story being told done tonight.
it was a tiring one because I wrote a fantasy story for EVERY SINGLE MURDER since the mechanic of the round was that characters had to prove via blue truths a 'truth' the witch would accept
one last thign is I am lowkey pissed the dw code push completely borked the code I used for the game because I took HOURS getting everything right and it looked like the ui the game had
- There is only one Culprit. - The Culprit is defined as 'The one who kills.' - Everyone else is innocent. - Innocent Characters may not hide important information or intentionally mislead other characters. This means they are allowed to be mistaken. - Statements in Purple are absolute truth UNLESS spoken by the Culprit, who is allowed to lie.
As someone in the higher meta mentions, This doesn't exclude supernatural shit happening. The game page and the name of the game itself may tell us to forget the witch, but I'm onto you author
Something I've noticed in retrospect after re-reading to get the rules is that battler mentions 'I've spent the last 6 years in my grandma's kitchen eating her mashed potatoes'
I was nodding along and going "okay, so this is an AU where Sayo was kept at Kuwadorian for a while or something then, alright-" and then Shannon showed up and that's when I decided to throw all of my assumptions out the window
Fair, ha. But the existence of "Ushiromiya Beatrice" as a discrete, new character really hammered in home that trying to extrapolate the situation or assume XYZ is true because it was true in canon was really useless.
Like, for example, the letters continuing to flow back and forth is evidence that there's some kind of preexisting relationship between Battler and Shannon, but also that it was massively different and obviously those differences changed the course of things here.
well, yeah. I just think at least for me, I can keep the au of this story seperate from canon while also being able to compare and contrast, especially given the whole conciet of the story is couched in
ANYWAY though something I do note is the strange panic of the narrator in the higher meta portion, and the repeated mention of 'I'm not a bad person' in regard to his friend who apparently died of suicide
so there was apparently a killer who killed their family and looked like a sole survivor, and tohya got called by said killer who tracked him down and threatened him
I will admit atm I am working on shanon being the culprit, not because of metalore, but just because she's the one often most not supported by purple. I'll have to run through statements like I do in order to see if it's viable or not.
simple. Take everyone's statements into account. whichever statment directly contradicts another statement when taking what the 'goal' is of what they're talking about into account.
the puzzle of 'there's a situation that three people saw, one person did it. two are telling the truth, and one is lying. the person that is lying is the culprit.'
a purple tale is just a much more complex version of that puzzle, but the author themselves state that anyone who isn't the culprit isn't purposefully hiding things back.
I discounted Shannon out of hand largely because if she's the culprit, the mystery is no longer interesting and there's not really a game to engage with anymore, since a lot of her purples are foundational to setting up the rules of the game and mystery.
it's NOT ALWAYS the truth. hell, though this author clearly subscribes to the red being absolute, it really....isn't? it's more like a subjective truth. The most 'absolute' truth in the umineko series is the Gold Truth.
that is true, but reading the author's thoughts on the purple just is like 'ah. this is exactly the kind of dude ryu railed against before giving up and writing ep 3, huh'
I mean it's more that saying 'wordplay bad' is, honestly, kind of going to sour me, as well as saying fantasy is basically only confusing and exists only to get the player and characters upset
it's more me saying 'sorry chief this isn't for me' and bouncing, especially when I'd been all for it rrrrright up until I read the first two hints and got That
but I'm just finding myself going....if you basically wrote this like just a mystery novel but with explicitly stated rules....why have it be purple at all?
chalmers even using the red to state 'professor skinner's mother was not in the building' is the exact kind of wordplay ACTIVELY USED IN UMINEKO, that the author clearly doesn't like
gunshot means it's either an actual pistol, or something that uses gunpowder as a firing mechanism. either is easy to conceal and use at close range, and would be easy to slam a door shut after.
- The Culprit is defined as 'The one who kills.'
- Everyone else is innocent.
- Innocent Characters may not hide important information or intentionally mislead other characters. This means they are allowed to be mistaken.
- Statements in Purple are absolute truth UNLESS spoken by the Culprit, who is allowed to lie.
- The Culprit is a Human Being.
'because her face doesn't matter.'
A H.
You need not hunt for a witch. For there is no witch to find.
Forget her.
Forget all of it.
There are only people. And the monsters that wear human faces hiding among them.
'Why is there no face on the portrait?'
'The face doesn't matter.'
'They weren't my family, Battler.' DAMN, SHANNON