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I think a lot about the ferry problem in the Nolan Batman movies

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Like, kinda eh about those movies as a whole

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But that one bit was good

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If you haven’t seen them

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The Joker wants to prove to Batman that people are fundamentally selfish and awful

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So he takes a bunch of explosives and hides them in the hole of a pair of ferries crossing Gotham Harbor

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The hold

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The bottom

Quinneapolis
the part where it would be bad to have bombs

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Then he hijacks the intercom of both ferries and just announced to each of them that he’s done this, and that each of them has the detonator for the other ferry

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So the only way they can survive is to blow up the other ferry before they blow you up

Quinneapolis
one full of normal citizens and one full of convicts

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One ferry is full of ordinary people

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The other is full of hardened criminals who are being transferred to another prison

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Both of them find the detonator

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The ordinary guy who has it is hesitating to do it despite the other boat being full of criminals who “had their chance”

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He’s like “...they haven’t blown us up yet. Maybe they won’t.”

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Cut to the prisoner ship

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The guard has the detonator

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This big tough guy in prisoner garb walks up

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“We both know you don’t have the guts to do what you need to. Give me the detonator and I’ll do it. You can say we overpowered you and you had no choice.”

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The guard nervously gives him the detonator

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And then the prisoner takes it, throws it off the edge of the boat, and sits back down

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Neither ferry blows up the other

Quinneapolis
"was that so fucking hard? christ"

Gabiluzbad
People can be good, actually

𝗕𝘂𝗻𝗻𝘆 𝗩𝗮𝗹𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗲
the joker's whole face as he processes this is just too good

Echo
YEAH that part was really good.

𝗕𝘂𝗻𝗻𝘆 𝗩𝗮𝗹𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗲
like.... he literally expected any other outcome but this and he has no idea what to do

𝗕𝘂𝗻𝗻𝘆 𝗩𝗮𝗹𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗲
owned lmao

Echo
The prisoner guy is lowkey my favorite character in the entire movie just for that.

Echo
"Give it to me, and I'll do what you should've done from the start" and it turns out he means 'you should've fucking tossed that thing minute one instead of even considering it'.

Rama
That's the one scene from Nolanman I still agree with like, thematically

Rama
It really sticks out from the rest of the trilogy's tone-deafness about class and casual justification of a police state

Gabiluzbad
I actually did like Heath Ledger’s Joker

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I hadn’t hit maximum Joker Exhaustion at that point

Rama
I liked the acting

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The character concept was...okay

Rama
But mostly Heath Ledger was really good at selling a character who was, fundamentally, bullshitting a lot

Gabiluzbad
Too bad what happened to him

⏏️ndrusi
to heath ledger (death) or to the joker (subsequent movies)?

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Heath Ledger

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Anyway calling out
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
because I know she likes bits about how humans are fundamentally good, actually

ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
yesss

BattroidBattery
also the only scene I remember from any of those movies

BattroidBattery
well that and Bane being a ham