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DARPA Researchers Create First Genuine Warp Bubble b...
Update: The results are unfounded. A warp bubble was not created.
RobotApocalypse
“To be clear, our finding is not a warp bubble analog, it is a real, albeit humble and tiny, warp bubble,”
holy shit
RobotApocalypse
when a scientist goes out of their way to say "no, this is exactly the sci-fi thing it sounds like" you know it's big
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RIGHT?
Bolt Vanderhuge
Goddamn
moontouched
holy moly
miles you ass
YO????
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"We actually did the cool thing"
eeby deeby
WHAT
ArtIsArt
THIS IS SO COOL!
colorful bunch
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well shit
RobotApocalypse
i find it really interesting how the light around it appears to be red-shifted
RobotApocalypse
i guess if space is more compressed there then the wavelength of light would appear shorter to us looking at it from the outside
duck bastard
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oh fuck
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It MAY be overstated
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apparently Dr. White has said things like this before
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Stated experiments in ways that suggested they were more exciting than they actually were
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Holy shit 12 people replurked this
RobotApocalypse
it's a little overstated but i still think it's very exciting
RobotApocalypse
cuz the way physics works is that you can use equations to deduce things that should or could exist within the realm of physics. and it's actually a fairly reliable way to predict things that we can't yet prove the existence of
RobotApocalypse
and we have a set of these mathematical predictions regarding warp bubbles
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and what they discovered was a way to produce conditions that come very close to matching those predictions
RobotApocalypse
so it's like a "where there's smoke, there's fire" sort of discovery - we found the smoke and now we know where to look for the fire
ArtIsArt
Yeye, but that's what happened with the Higgs Boson too, so who knows.
ArtIsArt
Difference of course being we were actually looking for that.
RobotApocalypse
yeah - the existence of the higgs-boson was predicted mathematically and then we set out to find it, and found it
Siv
OMG this is so cool!!
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oh my god. this could be... huge
Friendpatine
omg omg om omg omg
Friendpatine
when can I expect my Star Destroyer, plz
Friendpatine
I am prepared to settle for a Venator class if I can't get an Imperial
StupidSexyV⚠der
lol
bluecanary
depressed that elon musk is going to buy out the patent for this and build a dumbass bioshock city with it on mars powered by 2011 reddit memes
Tanks4theTurkey
Whoa...
Exacerangutan
...I'm a little skeptical of whether the negative energy interpretation of the Casimir effect really means "negative energy" the same way it's applied in general relativity... (thinking)
Throck
I hate to burst anyone's enthusiasm but apparently the guy behind this has made debunked claims about space travel stuff before Sonny white was behind the team that studied the emdrive idea and thought it was producing energy but another team found out they weren't accounting for the energy from the electrical wires in the experiment
Throck
I mean maybe they did find something this time but I wouldn't get overly excited until there's more study and peer review, given the source of the claims
Exacerangutan
oh rofl he's the EMdrive guy?
Throck
oh I missed someone else already brought this up sorry
Throck
Yeah he's emdrive guy.
Throck
Maybe there is something to it! but people sometimes get ahead of themselves with these things because it'd be really exciting if we had figured them out
Throck
If more peer review and experimentation happens that goes "hey you know what, there is something here" that'll be a little more sure
Exacerangutan
yeah, I mean... getting qualitative similarity is interesting for sure and worth publishing as... that
Exacerangutan
moreover I'm not convinced you can apply the principles of renormalization to actual energy densities the same way you do to the effective energy density of virtual particles in QFT also the Vacuum Catastrophe makes any treatment of renormalization-based of vacuum energy as a real energy pretty suspect IMO
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Update:
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:<
Bolt Vanderhuge
well shoot
Friendpatine
damn it, reality is hashing my vibe hard right now
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Editing toplevel since a lot of people replurked this
Exacerangutan
I think the moral of the story is to approach pop sci journalism with healthy skepticism, since even in the best case, even the most honest researcher is going to report their work from a place of confidence and the journalist, who most likely doesn't actually understand it, is incentivized to jazz it up from there
bluecanary
i think the moral of the story is we've bought some time to destroy elon musk before the ghost of christmas future (me) has his mars fate come to pass
Exacerangutan
XD
Exacerangutan
I mean also fair
RobotApocalypse
the crux of the debunking article, because it's wayyyyy down at the bottom:
They didn’t make [a warp bubble]. In fact, they didn’t calculate one, either. All they did was show that the three-dimensional energy density generated by this cavity displayed some qualitative correlations with the energy density field required by the Alcubierre drive.
RobotApocalypse
They don’t match in a quantitative sense; they were not generated experimentally, but only calculated numerically
RobotApocalypse
i still think it's important for pointing toward a direction for future research to investigate (preferably for other researchers to investigate), but, yeah, wildly overstated, even moreso than we thought
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