Beans
Based on a friend's plurk: is there a popular headcanon/fan theory in your fandom that you just don't click with?
Lightning Bolt
there's a trans girl in kamisama no iutoori who practically all the fandom treats as a crossdressing guy even though she repeatedly says she wants to be treated as a girl
Beans
something that's super popular but for the life of you, you can't understand why
Lightning Bolt
like, the actual manga itself treats her gender with more dignity than the fandom gives her
Lightning Bolt
she gets outed to one guy but he never outs her to anyone else despite thinking for one page "i will never see you the same way again" and the only other person to call her a guy is the story's villain
Beans
big juicy
"danny's skintone is more tan in ghost form than human form"
big juicy
literally the smallest most meaningless detail but i get so mad that no one fucking understands color theory and lighting
Teeff
ffffffffffffffffffffucking moonstone Varian
α ѕℓєєρєя нιт ✂
literally everything about fanon kate from watt. people write her as a completely different character and it’s highly frustrating
big juicy
i also hate the ghostspeak headcanon because it makes no fucking sense. how the fuck are all dead people gonna have a single unified language???? absolute nonsense. my inner linguist fuckin hates it
Lightning Bolt
like MAYBE the fandom that's not leaving gross comments on manga reading sites is better about it but i have no idea because all the fanfics on AO3 are just about the protags
Wintermelon
man I'm just super not into the "Bobby is Loboto's son" theory people are so crazy about
Wintermelon
like they look kind of similar? That's it
Wintermelon
same skin tone same weird eye color but its such a pedestrian choice
Toasty Mallow
Setsuna cheated with Mamoru and she's the ACTUAL mom of Chibiusa
Toasty Mallow
I know WHY it exists but I think it literally does every character in it dirty
pan
that Martin's neglect towards Finn was caused by brain damage/a head injury he appears to have suffered when he and baby Finn were initially separated
ѕαмѕα
"zhan tiri was more supportive to cass than raps was and raps was just a toxic shitty boss"
ѕαмѕα
"agnarr did nothing wrong he was just trying his best"
pan
pls just accept Martin is a bad person who improved while married but then slid straight back into old habits
Beans
big juicy : I thought??? it was always just lighting?? like wow
Toasty Mallow
oh, my least favorite: But actually Prince Demande loves Usagi/Serenity more/better
ѕαмѕα
also the inverse on that second one and "fred is a horribly shitty abusive dad who's just as bad as gothel"
Beans
Teeff : LMAO YEAH yeah..... this plurk is partly because of the neverending Moonstone Varian headcanon
Beans
that I've written about several times and how it just would NEVER happen in canon
Beans
"th hairstripe" is not a legitimate foreshadowing detail
Beans
α ѕℓєєρєя нιт ✂ : god I keep hearing you talk about the watt fandom and I'm just so sorry about their everything
big juicy
YEAH I THOUGHT IT BEING LIGHTING WAS COMMON KNOWLEDGE
big juicy
but then i saw the posts about how drawing ghost danny the same skintone as human danny was "whitewashing"
big juicy
stares into the fucking abyss
α ѕℓєєρєя нιт ✂
it’s Bad. the Kate stuff is frustrating but the way they treat Cairo is infuriating.
𝗛𝗮𝗽𝗽𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗡𝗲𝘄𝗬𝗲𝗮𝗿!
back when i was in p4 fandom, there was a theory floating around that [dead backstory character] from one spinoff was in fact [surprise twist ghost character] from another completely different spinoff
𝗛𝗮𝗽𝗽𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗡𝗲𝘄𝗬𝗲𝗮𝗿!
even though it actively contradicted the one piece of info we had about [dead backstory character] – and not like, inconsequential info, it was a piece of her characterization that has ripple effects out into a ton of very prominent shit across the arena games
Teeff
it drive me bonkers all the tome forever and ever and ever
𝗛𝗮𝗽𝗽𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗡𝗲𝘄𝗬𝗲𝗮𝗿!
but people used to casually discuss it like it was a confirmed canon fact and it used to make me go rabid
Teeff
they just want to make him SPECIAL and miss out of the...point of his fucking character is that he DOESN'T need magic to be special or worthy
ѕαмѕα
but varian Has To Be The Main Character
Teeff
Teeff
but He Isn't
Beans
Wintermelon : I'm in the same boat re: bobby, unless they do a hypothetical sequel where it's canon and they majorly revamp his character
Beans
I think maybe loboto was talking about the lungfish anyway
Beans
Teeff : but he has to be the MOST SPECIAL
Beans
He needs to be the Dark Prince and the moonstone and the stars
Beans
Teeff
gAAAARRGGGLLLLLEESSSSS
Beans
big juicy : y i k e s
Wintermelon
totally makes sense if its Linda. My personal "if it has to be a human kid" choice is Quentin, both woth canon stuff and for the gag. But the insistence on Bobby rubs me wrong
bread singalong
big juicy : uhhhh???????? what the hell. iirc Danny's skin even seemed lighter in ghost form but that's also because of the glow
Teeff
don't forget he has to be DAWN too, I've seen that too
Teeff
and I'm just like...fucking stop
Beans
ѕαмѕα : lmfao yeah fuck Zhan tiri and Agnarr
bread singalong
I mean tbf Vlad has a completely different skin tone as a ghost so like.... it's possible that Danny's skin is different???? but still
Wintermelon
like that boy's teeth are BAD and the implication of a nasty home life doesn't sit quite right
Teeff
let me him their weirdo gremlin steampunk inventor who blows shit up, just let him be that
Beans
Beans
Toasty Mallow : GOD unnecessary "X cheated on X" headcanons are just Bad every time
big juicy
if you colordrop on screenshots it's literally just the same exact fucking skintone lmfao
bread singalong
LOL
tsuchinoko real
I've never liked the whole "Sheik is a man/Zelda transforms into a man to be Sheik" because like... it's a disguise, you guys
Jabbers
I mean I'm sure we both share a lot of the rwby ones. Anything suggesting adam and ironwood aren't total scumbags generally
big juicy
the only difference is that in ghost form, most of his face tends to be in shadow bc ghost scenes tend to have really wacky dramatic lighting
Beans
superorbital: uggggh that blows, especially if it directly contradicts a piece of established information
tsuchinoko real
Even on the n64 you can clearly see that she bound her chest as part of the disguise
big juicy
sometimes that lighting happens in human form too! sometimes that lighting isn't dramatic when he's in ghost form! either way, his base skintone and the shadow of it are just about the same from scene to scene to scene, it's just a matter of how much is being used
tsuchinoko real
People mistook her as a dude because it's a really good disguise
Mega
I definitely can't jive with Riku being canonically gay- not out of any homophobia or anything. He just reads as a HUGE bisexual disaster to me, and so often I see people use the "Riku gay" thing to shit on OT3 or rikai fans. (Mlm Riku ships are still valid as heck.)
Mega
KH1 Riku to me is like "oh no he's crushing on both his friends"
Rama
Wait
bread singalong
I hate a lot of headcanons but I just kind of sigh and go "eh" in the other direction usually
Rama
I'm like halfway through Tangled The Series
Rama
I thought Varian was supposed to be a reincarnation, metaphorical or literal, of the ancient artificer guy
tsuchinoko real
Zelda has magic powers yeah but she also has 7 years of covert ninja spy training
Mega
oh, dang, that's not a take on Varian I had even considered
bread singalong
OH OH OH speaking of Zelda like
bread singalong
I hate the headcanon that Link is actually mute
🏔️ndrusi
"Zero killed all the classic Mega Man characters"
Mega
oh god
bread singalong
he doesn't talk a lot but he is canonically shown to talk at various points
Mega
where did the "Zero killed everyone" thing even come from?
bread singalong
screen panning out and back in, etc.
bread singalong
also his constant "HYRRAHHH"s
🏔️ndrusi
People like to blame bng for it but it was already popular
Rama
Mega : There was a lot of Imagery around the second half of S1 that I thought I was being clever for seeing
Mega
Oh, nice :-o I'll have to rewatch sometime
Mega
honestly, that reminds me, "Frisk canonically is mute" is another one that bothers me because. The phone they get early on is not texting-friendly, so they have to be able to speak (plus they have commands like sing and whisper)

Fanworks where Frisk signs instead are super fine and nonverbal rep is super lacking. It's just a personal thing
🏔️ndrusi
I want to say it comes from zero having a flashback where there's a dead robot that looks kinda sorta vaguely like mega man
Mega
'cause sometimes people push the idea that Frisk literally cannot speak so hard and as someone whose Frisk talks it can get a little tiring having to justify it +_+
Rama
Frisk can talk, just very few people listen to them
Mega
YEAH...
Beans
Jabbers : I can't believe how many people think ironwood is shit writing when a militaristic character sliding down the slippery mental slope until he's doing Whatever It Takes to protect his people is like..... classic tropework
Mega
like, Inverted Fate's Frisk is very talkative, and I get how going from silent protag to a more fleshed out protag might be jarring, but I feel like in general silent protags can talk and we simply don't see their dialogue
Mega
(Mute protags who're canonically mute can be fascinating, tho)
🏔️ndrusi
But like... it's been 100 years, there doesn't need to have been a Big Incident for all the classic characters to be gone
Mega
Yeah, like. There could be any number of reason for it
Rama
(Mute protags who're canonically mute can be fascinating, tho)
Give one up for my girl Chell
Mega
:-o oh dang. she's canonically mute? Nice!
🏔️ndrusi
The doctors in particular were old men already!
Rama
It's not like 100% definite but there's no indication she responds verbally to anything and both major AIs in 2 call her mute
Mega
oh, neat :-)
Mega
Nonverbal characters can be awesome. and I think having fics where silent protags are nonverbal can be a neat approach from a writing standpoint. My beef is mostly when people treat one headcanon as Definitive Canon
Mega
which sadly happens a lot in any fandom u_u
Mega
(It's really bad in UT/DR, tho, with stuff like gaster lore, for instance)
Beans
Mega : oh Riku's 100% bi and I think a lot of soriku shippers are just projecting
Mega
yeah. Like, I don't wanna sound insensitive by undercutting a mlm ship that's so important to people, but a lot of those kinds of soriku fans are way too aggressive about it
Jabbers
I KNOW, RIGHT!? I have no idea what happens to peoples brains when they watch rwby sometimes
Mega
a bisexual riku dating sora is still... mlm
Mega
a bisexual riku dating kairi or namine or whoever is still bi
Rama
Also since my RWBY friends brought up RWBY I find it remarkable that one of the show's biggest strengths is showing people responding to trauma in realistic and thoughtful ways and everyone constantly complains about how that's bad writing
Rama
Although admittedly Ruby herself being all repression all the time for eight seasons is wearing a little thin
Beans
RWBY has taught me that if someone hates something with a white hot intensity then they will hate it for literally any reason, no matter WHAT it does
Mega
god.
Mega
Yeah, people don't seem to Get trauma in fiction
Beans
Rama : ye I'm hoping they actually address that in VOL 9
ѕαмѕα
"people don't seem to Get trauma in fiction" do you mean TTS fandom lmfao
ѕαмѕα
TTS is like "trauma can be messy and sometimes good people hurt others when they lash out or react bc of their trauma but that doesn't make them any less good" and then you have people flat out writing fred as a controlling abuser or say that cass needs to be put to death
Beans
ѕαмѕα : lmao straight up I've seen people be like "why is Cass so stupid? She's a grown up, she should be acting better than this"
Rama
Oh yeah trauma and poor but reasonable responses to it are...most of the show
Beans
as though..... you get to decide how your trauma makes you act
ѕαмѕα
it's almost like being reminded of trauma so terrible you forgot about it and then not being allowed to process it is..... bad.....
merry witchmas
looks at touhou fandom, looks into the sky
merry witchmas
touhou fandom is sort of weird bc of the way the canon works, some of the big memes just became accepted fanon for a long, long, LONG time bc of the creator's inability to draw charas consistently from game-to-game there was a joke that she padded her bras bc her bust size went up and down
merry witchmas
and early touhou fandom just sort of accepted that. sakuya padding jokes
Wintermelon
this one doesn't super annoy me but I've seen a surprisingly large amount of people espouse the idea that Loboto has a split personality and that there's the evil one and the poor trapped good one (influenced by the presentation in RoR but still) and it rubs me the wrong way
merry witchmas
or a single fucking line by one of the other characters, whose motivation is that she came down to the mortal realm to cause trouble because she was bored and wanted to shake things up, once one of the characters actually posed a threat to her she said
merry witchmas
Yes, get angry! Because if you don't punish me, Gensokyo shall be no more!
merry witchmas
and fandom went "oh so she's a masochist, got it"
pixie lovemail
dorked is in this plurk so i can't be specific, but.
pixie lovemail
there being a) a letter at all and B-) it being intentionally withheld just
pixie lovemail
seems to miss the ENTIRE point for me
pixie lovemail
gdi plurk
merry witchmas
so like sakuya-padding and masochist-tenshi were just, super pervasive fanon for so fucking long and im happy there's more fans these days who dont make the memes their canon
Beans
Wintermelon : yyyyyeeeah that rubs me as a extremely easy way for people to like. explain away all the bad things loboto actually did without directly confronting it
Wintermelon
yeah like. Man he's SO mentally ill but he's still responsible for his actions and he acknowledges that and its way too easy to go "actually he never wanted to do these things its something EVIL"
Beans
he's not even fully redeemed by the end of the second game
Wintermelon
he has to work for it!! he has LOTS to work and make up for. Just now he realizes it more presently
Wintermelon
its why I've acknowledged in-game that there's a real possibility he'll backslide because he's so early into a personal redemption arc that is not going go be easy
Dragons Dragons
Along the same lines as the Setsuna thing, remember that rant in Digimon fandom that it's a logical fallacy to assume that a canon ship loves each other because people date and get married for reasons other than love all the time?
Dragons Dragons
Sorato haters are wild.
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