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meta rambling ahead ...god, Kiryu’s got some SHIT to deal with [spoilers if you care]
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The second I threw him into Y7, I knew it’d be a lot but the more I look at it, the more it’s a LOT.
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Like I was thinking about how angry he was at Tachibana’s death
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And then you go through the series, all the shit this man does for the Tojo Clan at various points
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Like to the point where it’s a fandom joke
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And then you think about the fact that in Y7 it gets DISSOLVED.
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Not because of a war, not because of actual weakness
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But because one piece of shit dude
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And like, I’d love to say ‘If Arakawa Masato shows up, Kiryu might get demoted or punch him in the face’ cause LORD WOULD HE DESERVE IT.
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But it’s just so much more than that.
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Because it’s personal and it’s one guy for ICHIBAN, but for Kiryu, I would think it’s a lot more than that.
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I made the joke while we were going through Y7 “OMG Daigo, you couldn’t manage four years without Kiryu?!?” And while I realize Daigo had some shit going on and all kinds of stuff, I also can’t help but feel that Kiryu almost certainly puts some of this on himself.
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And then when you take into account some of the other factors not directly in Y7 (that the government made that deal with Kiryu to make him be ‘dead’, that the Fixer died, that a member of the Yakuza deeply embarrassed the Japanese government, that ANOTHER member of the Yakuza got a major government official in deep shit with his testimony (Judgment plot)
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And for Kiryu, it’s so much less about Arakawa and so much more about the government and the police dismantling everything that he and people like him had built.
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They tried in Y4! (It was stupid but that is what was happening). And Daigo went along with it! And then Kiryu kicked his ass!

...and then it’s all gone in Y7. Accomplished. Done.
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I’m still playing through Lost Judgment so I don’t have the most complete understanding of how that panned out on a longer scale than Y7 shows, but from what I can tell? NOT GREAT.
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And when you take into account some of the struggle he was having near the end, some of the regrets in his letter, the frustrations he has with his earlier actions, with his choices in life, with what it means to have given up power and how really, genuinely, HE DOESN’T LIKE IT in a lot of ways.
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Kiryu’s relationship with power is always just... so fascinating.
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But it really puts what his second deal might be into a very interesting position. Because previously, he was very much figuring that he should keep things small, localized, very deliberate. Only certain people and only certain situations. Rikiya, the one that Rags is currently working towards, is a straight up debt as far as he’s concerned. The man
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Stepped between him and a bullet. But the more these things wear on him and the more he looks at how he’s been positioned at the moment, the more I think he might start thinking bigger. And it’s something I’d be really interested in working towards/working with, his feelings about power
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His comfort and discomfort with having it and the relationship it has in his mind with freedom, with what he wants in life, with doing right by those that he cares about.
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And one thing that drives me nuts in the fandom is... NO, GUYS, He’S ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD WITH LEADING. Like, if you listen in YK1 especially, every one of the dudes in Kiryu’s group of men are 100% all about thinking he’s awesome. Like he’s not some goody two-shoes that no one can stand
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He’s a stand up guy who takes care of his people, is tough as shit, and has a good work ethic. Which makes SENSE given what he told Majima right at the get go: he wants to show people that you don’t have to be violent and abusive to your subordinates.
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He’s the idealized version of a yakuza. But he’s IDEALIZED, not softened. And he wants to spread that. His goals shift when he loses everyone, when Haruka becomes the most important person to him, but then you get to the current time.
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And give the man the ability to get a deal/wish
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And What Does That Mean to a man who just saw everything he’d done, every sacrifice he’s made, every death in his arms, amount to an angry brawl and UNorganized crime
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Like legit, you hear him talk in YK2 and Y4 and Y5 about the legacy and what’s important and the Tojo Clan is a huge part of that.
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It’s just... A LOT TO THINK ABOUT
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Boo👻Berry : he might want to bend Lark’s ear a bit
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I am so Here For It
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today is a Lark and Hawkeye day so once I'm back from work stuff I can boomerang Kiryu and Lark if you want!
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Yes please!
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Pagan’s journey has also had it’s part in things so like... LOTS TO TALK ABOUT
pharadyne
Here for Kiryu meta
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pharadyne : ...I can babble for a while ^_^; there’s a lot of games worth to talk about!
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He didn’t want to tell Norton any of this because when they talked, Norton was Sad
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Not the point at the moment : )
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Oh the barge plot is playing SO WELL with all of this.
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Admiral: So someone told me I couldn’t do what I thought was right and help everyone I want to help.
Kiryu: FUCK THEM FUCKERS
BethampHATamine
T: gdi I don’t want to agree with that shit upstairs.
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When the Admiral said ‘I elected not to listen’ Kiryu just giving a deep grunt of admiration and respect.
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K: fuck the police, fuck the government, half the time fuck the Tojo Clan
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Oh my god it got worse
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Holy shit playing Lost Judgment was just like
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Hey so you know how you thought it’d be bad?
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It’s sooooo bad
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Like Public Security (Japanese Intelligence Agency) has scooped up all the old Tojo and coopted them for dirty work under a previous Tojo clan mole
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Literally everything he crawled out of retirement from 4 to avoid
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My god he’s going to be so mad
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So fucking mad
pharadyne
omg poor Kiryu
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pharadyne : he knows some of this. He might ask Norton for advice when he can handle it. Kiryu, not Norton.
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The main baddies from this would be amazing inmates though
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But ugggh he’s going to be so mad about RK. This game has been really clear that everything has gone to shit
pharadyne
Norton has a lot of experience with secretive government agencies. Although there's a chance his advice will be "kill the boss, take over the agency"
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...he might be up for that first part. Raaar
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He’s been talking with Lark about like
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Potentially going back to save the clan
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