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You know when you make what you feel was an innocent comment about a thing, and the other person decides that means you need to start an academic debate about the thing?
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...and it's like always men too I s2g.
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I'm not at work or school I have other things to do, my man.
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Like hey I'm glad you're passionate about a thing but I'm just trying to vibe here.
papermint tiger
oof
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Him: There's so much you need to explain to a new player of Game.
Me: I think it's a good start to just follow what the game tells you to do.
Him: If they do that they'll get overwhelmed for x y z reasons and if they don't understand something they get frustrated and quit bc that's how the zone of proximal development works!!
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And then he proceeded to tell me that I was wrongly applying my own experience to everyone and just
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way to assume that you're the only one who knows anything about your area of study
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I know about the zone of proximal development but I am not at school or work reeeee
Streets of Edo
Oh no, Vygotsky strikes again
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We went back and forth fruitlessly for a bit and then I just said hey I'm not here to have an academic debate, I'm gonna go do something else. And afterwards I finally managed to put my finger on what bothered me about what he was saying which is:
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He accused me of assuming everyone has the same experience as me, while he himself lowkey assumed everyone would have a different experience than me.
papermint tiger
mansplaining at its finest
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Like the zone of proximal development is different for each individual. What'll be an issue for one person won't be for the next person. And he didn't seem to think about that nuance? idk
papermint tiger
also, as someone who has always struggled with games? that's what guides are for
Streets of Edo
He seems to have assumed everyone would have the same experience he had
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I have no idea what his own experience was.
Streets of Edo
exactly! it varies a lot, it's not something that's clearly set out
papermint tiger
i know people like to be all elitist and not use them, but they are the only way i can play most games
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I think Vygotsky's ideas are intriguing! But yeah idk how the conversation ended up where it did.
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I once said "a lot of people will probably know that you can google something they don't understand" and he was like
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that's what YOU are like and you're assuming EVERYONE ELSE IS and it's like.
papermint tiger
.......uh what
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No I'm assuming most people who game know how to google which I feel
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is not ridiculous
Streets of Edo
He sounds exhausting
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It was very strange.
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And I was basically caught off-guard and couldn't articulate things bc, again, did not expect a sudden academic debate.
papermint tiger
i once said something about how i had to watch a guide to an old friend of mine, and he was very negative and dismissive about that. So i wonder if it was something like that, that sort of attitude where you have to game blind
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But also my dude you have no idea what my education is.
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No, I think he has a genuine concern about information not being presented in an accessible way which is like
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a valid concern and not bad to have a discussion about
papermint tiger
hmm ok
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but he just seemed so aggressive.
Streets of Edo
He also seems presumptuous
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Like these are questions I ask myself when I'm working or studying, not when I'm playing games. Nothing wrong about me shutting off my work brain.
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Anyway
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s h r u g s
Mυrder Mυғғιɴ
It is always men.
𝖒𝖚𝖗𝖉𝖊𝖗 𝖔𝖋 𝖖𝖗𝖔𝖜𝖘
this happened to me on plurk once
𝖒𝖚𝖗𝖉𝖊𝖗 𝖔𝖋 𝖖𝖗𝖔𝖜𝖘
not a dude surprisingly enough
𝖒𝖚𝖗𝖉𝖊𝖗 𝖔𝖋 𝖖𝖗𝖔𝖜𝖘
tho lmfao that dude acting like anyone needs an Evidence Based Approach to playing games
𝖒𝖚𝖗𝖉𝖊𝖗 𝖔𝖋 𝖖𝖗𝖔𝖜𝖘
it’s a fuckin game nobody gives a fuck
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