The immediate trigger for Von Sivers’s themed week is a report from Sweden’s Board of Health and Welfare which confirmed a 1,500% rise between 2008 and 2018 in gender dysphoria diagnoses among 13- to 17-year-olds born as girls.
In the autumn of 2018, the Social Democrat-led government, under pressure from the gay, lesbian and transgender group RFSL, proposed a new law which would reduce the minimum age for sex reassignment medical care from 18 to 15, remove all need for parental consent, and allow children as young as 12 to change their legal gender.
Then in March last year, the backlash started. Christopher Gillberg, a psychiatrist at Gothenburg’s Sahlgrenska Academy, wrote an article in the Svenska Dagbladet newspaper warning that hormone treatment and surgery on children was “a big experiment” which risked becoming one of the country’s worst medical scandals.
In April, Uppdrag Granskning, an investigative TV programme, followed up with a documentary profiling a former trans man, Sametti, who regretted her irreversible treatment.
In October, the programme turned its fire on the team at Stockholm’s Karolinska University hospital, which specialises in treating minors with gender dysphoria.
The unit has been criticised for carrying out double mastectomies on children as young as 14, and accused of rushing through treatment and failing to consider adequately whether patients’ other psychiatric or developmental issues might better explain their unhappiness with their bodies.
At the same time, Filter magazine profiled the case of Jennifer Ring, a 32-year-old trans woman who hanged herself four years after her surgery. An expert on psychosis who was shown her medical journal by her father, Avi Ring, was quoted as saying that she had shown clear signs of psychosis at the time she first sought treatment for gender dysphoria.
Indeed, the first clinic she approached refused to treat her, citing signs of schizotypal symptoms and lack of a history of gender dysphoria. But the team at Karolinska went ahead. “Karolinska don’t stop anyone; virtually 100% get sex reassignment,” says Ring.
Sweden’s authorities are starting to respond. Shortly before the bill that would have lowered the sex reassignment minimum age was due to be debated in parliament in September, it was shelved, and the Board of Health and Welfare was ordered to reassess the evidence. Its report is due on 31 March.
After being interviewed on Uppdrag Granskning, Sweden’s health minister, Lena Hallengren, asked the programme to include a text addendum to remind viewers that it had been her predecessor, and not her, who had drafted the controversial law.
On 20 December, the Swedish Agency for Health Technology Assessment, which the government had asked to review the scientific research into the recent surge in teenagers reporting gender dysphoria, reported that there was very little research either into the reason for the increase or the risks or benefits of hormone treatment and surgery.
For Romson this is a worrying turn of events. He blames Gender Identity Challenge Scandinavia (Genid), a parents’ group set up by Ring, a retired professor of neurophysiology, the Swedish toxicologist Karin Svens and the Norwegian teacher Marit Rønstad,
for the change in the debate, contrasting these “so-called concerned parents”, some of whom he points out have adult transgender children who should be allowed to speak and decide for themselves, with “real parents” who affirm their children’s chosen identities.
Svens was the only Swedish parent to speak openly on Uppdrag Granskning about how her trans son announced he was a boy when he was 17, started going to Karolinska’s adult clinic when he turned 18, and now identifies as male.
When asked about Jennifer Ring, he says that friends of hers have told him she found it difficult that her family were unwilling to accept her as a trans woman.
“When I started questioning this some years ago, I thought I was alone,” says Svens. “They tried to scare me by repeatedly implying that there is a high risk of suicide, especially if the parents don’t agree. Now more and more parents have found the courage to question what the doctors say.”
The recent report from the Board of Health and Welfare also found that 32.4 percent of 13 to 17-year-olds with gender dysphoria registered at birth as women also had diagnoses for anxiety disorder, 28.9 percent had depression, 19.4 percent had ADHD, and 15.2 percent had autism.
Trans people often explain the higher levels of depression and anxiety by pointing to the difficult experience living in a body that clashes with their gender identity, particularly when many in society, often including parents and friends, do not accept their identity.
One of the most surprising changes has been the growing divisions between trans activists. While Romson warns that children will have even more anxiety because of the change in the debate, Aleksa Lundberg, a trans woman and longstanding activist, is backing the call for more research.
Last October she apologised for not having been sufficiently open about the depression she had felt after her operation. “I would probably not undergo corrective surgery if I had the same choice today,” she wrote. “And I want to apologise to those who perhaps needed to hear that story earlier.”
The guardian的報導
一名哥特堡Sahlgrenska Academy的精神科醫師Christopher Gillerg投書警告對兒童的荷爾蒙治療與手術是一場大型實驗,可能成為這個國家最糟糕的醫療醜聞。
所以性別多元化只會造成更多社會上的紛爭,和人類無謂的猜疑,對吧?
最終,人類還是得回歸男生就該有男生的樣子,女生就該有女生的樣子,才能達到社會平衡吧?
有時候覺得性別多元化只是以人權為名行宗教行為的團體,用來洗腦這個世界,否定自己現在的身體。
,不是說生理上多元也就是只要自己願意也高興,你的打扮上想走什麼風格,你的個性是怎樣,不會侷限在男女應該固定怎樣的模板……
瑞典以性平而聞名,但就連他們的女生都不想當女生呢。完全是意料之中。
至於社會風俗,除了需要赤身裸體的領域,或是治安死角,其實我不認為台灣有什麼特殊的事情只有單一性別可以做。
這個機構早已被批評他們執行14歲兒童乳房切除手術,並且被控倉促執行治療,而沒有充分考慮到病患其他精神或發展方面的問題更可能解釋他們對自己身體的不適。
類分裂型人格的介紹
他責怪一個父母團體Gender Identity Challenge Scandinavia(斯堪地那維亞挑戰性別認同組織),這個組織由Ring創立,他是一名退休的神經生理學教授,還有瑞典毒理學家Karin Svens與挪威教師Marit Rønstad
儘管Romson警告兒童會因為這種風向的改變變得更焦慮,然而Aleksa Lundberg,一位長期活躍於社會運動的跨女,卻支持這項呼籲:要有更多對跨性別的研究。
瑞典的Karolinska醫院還有其他醫療機構,都停止了對18歲以下的青少年開青春期阻斷劑跟荷爾蒙。
到底該叫他們進步國家還是衝很快國家頂樓報導提到的Gender Identity Challenge Scandinavia
我之前在看英國關於這方面的事情的時候看到的也是這樣。「你想要一個活著的兒子還是一個死掉的女兒?」,醫生會這樣問。所以就算規定要取得父母同意也沒用,被醫生這樣威脅的當下父母只會感覺自己沒得選。
並不是沒有這種女性吧 比如說一些父權女或是剛好就一輩子順風順水的女性 他們的心理性別該被質疑嗎?
很多生理女是這樣 在多數女性中這是共感 到這邊都OK
但是說沒有這種感覺就不能稱作心理女性 這會把不這麼想的女性(即使是生理女)也排除到心理女之外
現在的問題就是當一個人生理條件跟特定時間地點的女性群體沒有共同點,跟他們的心理狀態也沒有共同點的情況。
你要把生理女拿出來談,可以,我們就來否定她們的心理性別是女人,但她們生理上依然是女人,不管她們高不高興喜不喜歡歡不歡喜。
對噗主說沒有心理男女性之分:可理解,沒意見
對paark預設心理女性存在,之後推論的「不曾有某種想法就不是心理女」:不能理解
這個意見是先把認同或接受自己生理性別為OO的人,稱為心理OO(paark的定義是這樣吧?),接著推展到「若沒有某想法,他的心理真的能算是心理OO嗎?」
因為即使生理性別相同,人的生命經驗各有不同,可能有女性從不討厭身為女性,假如以「不想當女生」當作心理女性必然的共通點並可藉此問算不算心理女,那對不能涵蓋的情形要怎麼辦?
「跨女說自己是心理女,在他們如此宣稱的同時,如果不能理解其他女性的心情與困境,還有資格這麼宣稱嗎?」
所以其實也是半開玩笑啦,所謂的「心理女」如果真的存在,他的心理卻從來沒有經歷過這身體,那從來沒有被這種身體影響過的「心理女」算是心理女嗎
偷偷說裡這篇比我上面找到的報導內容更長
明天再來仔細看看有沒有什麼漏掉的細節