DP but... Gladio's apology... he's sorry for losing his temper.
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DP but... Gladio's apology... he's sorry for losing his temper.
DP but... Gladio's apology... he's sorry for losing his temper.
ฯะฝฮนัั โฮนgะฝัฮทฮนฮทg
Kaiba is like..... I gotta get those pictures from Tony.. because I have so much I could say to Gladio and can't. LOL!
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LOL he's judging him for apologising? He's only sorry he lost is temper!
ฯะฝฮนัั โฮนgะฝัฮทฮนฮทg
He was judging you for both. LOL
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Whelp... he's just jealous!
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Or something lol
ฯะฝฮนัั โฮนgะฝัฮทฮนฮทg
LOL!
ฯะฝฮนัั โฮนgะฝัฮทฮนฮทg
If he wasn't such a brat Kaiba could have agreed with portions of the first post, since he doesn't get why people just accept this place
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Gladio doesn't get it either.
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^^;
Chaldea Teatime
Aw buddy
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Jadeโ
gladio is a good bean for this! how things are said matters just as much as much as the points presented. even if ppl disagree, good communication fosters more workable solutions and cooperation
Un(t)sundered
Emet doesn't entirely object to the idea of wanting to know, but he had a lot of objections to the like. methods of how Gladio and everyone went about finding out
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The last resort of the desperate.
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The group with the least patience, lacking in diplomacy, and who are more likely to take action, took action. And everyone is surprised lol
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Yup.
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It's all good saying people were befriending the natives and such, but after two years there should have been less questions and more answers. But it seems there are more and more questions and no answers. So they did what they did!
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But losing his temper wasn't ideal and he regrets that.
Un(t)sundered
I think a lot of the stuff in Era's big infopost was stuff that hadn
Un(t)sundered
*hadn't been shared much before? or not all in one place
Un(t)sundered
and tbh I'm not sure how many characters are trying to build rep with the natives (or for how long they've been trying)
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That was months ago!
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And most of it was common. Or at least, most of it had been explained via CR
Un(t)sundered
I know some of it was new to me!
Un(t)sundered
plus also I know I, for one, am not always able to get on shit as fast as my characters would XD
Un(t)sundered
I'm tired and busy!
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Which is totally fair!
Un(t)sundered
so like... it's legit for Gladio to have wanted to Know More! but we are all sometimes old and tired and not able to keep up with things XD
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haha ain't that the truth
Un(t)sundered
plus like. as far as I'm aware, the stuff that Era is working on isn't super fast moving, unless folks really want some of the mundane deets of the natives' lives XD
Un(t)sundered
(since that's what I have the most insight on)
Bret ๐
it is just unfortunate from a purely narrative standpoint that all the options characters did have to get more information and get access to stuff was put on hold for real life constraints because boy %D
Bret ๐
that'd make people a little happier %D
Un(t)sundered
it would, yeah
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It's not the mundane that these guys want to know. It's what's being 'hidden'
Un(t)sundered
and I get the frustrations! it is slow and some things probably would be moving faster
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>.> But I'm getting dizzy arguing this point over and over again
Un(t)sundered
but alas, we are all just people
N แด แด ส โโโ
I haven't seen any arguments, just discussion! but I'm also garbage at reading tone so 
Un(t)sundered
yeah, same
Bret ๐
yeye
Un(t)sundered
I'm not trying to argue? but also I'm super tired today and probably not wording great either
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Arguing might have been the wrong word to use... >.> I just feel like I'm saying the same thing over and over again.
Un(t)sundered
/nodnod
Un(t)sundered
I think there's definitely some like... treading old ground, yeah
Hope
I think the point is, there's an apology for the method and tone. But let's agree to disagree on the method since we can't agree on that
N แด แด ส โโโ
but yeah I agree that ICly things have been slow bc OOCly life has been insane and put a lot on hold.
Bret ๐
i actually hadn't considered that factor before! so ty for bringing it up 
Un(t)sundered
Hope
: oocly I have no problem with the method! like it makes sense! but icly... yes, that's probably good XD
Hope
Thanks
Un(t)sundered
Thanks
Un(t)sundered
Hope
It's tough taking on the level of negative CR this brought. Idk if anyone could've predicted quite that level of response. Some response, obviously but.. you know
N แด แด ส โโโ
yeah OOCly I have no issues, bc if something is IC then it's IC! ICly tho... haha
Un(t)sundered
yeah, it was uh. definitely A Lot
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A lot.
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But it's fine if no one accepts Gladio's apology. ^^ Somehow all of the negative has landed right on him.
N แด แด ส โโโ
I'm pretty sure it was the accusation of people rolling over and doing nothing that set off most of the IC negativity, but hopefully the apology helps some!
Bret ๐
gladio this is what happens when you come out guns blazing 8(
Bret ๐
and yeah that is. that is it. even my other guy that would be like "yeah I get exactly where you are coming from" would have a knee-jerk reaction to that
Hope
which is understandable, but like.. it's been a week right?
Un(t)sundered
yeah, agreeing on the 'rolling over and doing nothing' aspect
Un(t)sundered
(and also I haven't had the brain to engage in any tags lately, so I haven't tried to figure out Emet's reaction to the apology yet)
Hope
which makes sense why people would get mad at that!
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^^ It's all good.
Bret ๐
this is just the BIG HAPPENING THING that affects a lot of people so discussion is just gonna... happen a lot haha
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Jadeโ
IMO an apology post for tone could help with people being like "okay we can at least agree on XYZ (ie characters wanting more information)... let's try to investigate in a different manner and see if we get better and/or other results"
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Jadeโ
and of course, bring the characters who were doing research and things out of the woodwork
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^^ Perhaps
Hope
Right.. assuming there were some
N แด แด ส โโโ
oh there are definitely a few! 
Bret ๐
and it looks like the archives are an option again 
Bret ๐
everyone hold hands to read books
Xiu Ya Time
What's really hilarious is that all of this is technically Sephiroth's fault and he was going to go in there and slice down all the doors looking for Genesis, Zack, and Galaxia and actually everyone should be thanking Tony, Cloud, and the rest that this didn't go nuclear option honestly
Xiu Ya Time
But nobody knows that ICly because Sephiroth is also the guy who doesn't give a single fuck about what anyone thinks
Bret ๐
BD
Bret ๐
i mean the officer announcement didn't even specify who did it at all
Xiu Ya Time
What? No, it is not his destiny to become a public menace. He has no idea who did this it's a m y s t e r y
Bret ๐
who could have done this. certainly not sephiroth
Xiu Ya Time
of course not he is but a simple man nothing special about him whatsoever
Maraich
No one even knows Sephiroth is involved lol
Maraich
Gladio made the post, and Tony took credit, and it's been assumed that Verstael is at fault...
Maraich
No one suspects Cloud and Sephiroth lol
Xiu Ya Time
This is actually amazing
Bret ๐
dot knows cuz she went to the jail but like. yeah.
Xiu Ya Time
She gotta protect her sources tho
Bret ๐
ye
Hope
lol Tony was trying to Protectโข so he took credit
Bret ๐
prime journalistic integrity
Xiu Ya Time
Meanwhile it isn't unusual for unsociable people to just like disappear for a while so Sephiroth and Cloud poofing away for a week nbd
Xiu Ya Time
Iron Dad
Hope
also... you know... attention whore
Xiu Ya Time
I owe Theo a log but lmao I should also post something where Sephiroth is just like "wtf are you doing"
Xiu Ya Time
to the group
Maraich
"I'm in the bathroom. Why?"
Xiu Ya Time
Yes, perfect Verstael I love it
Hope
lol
Maraich
"Do you need a sample?"
Maraich
:|a
Hope
eww
Maraich
Oh please, Tony
Maraich
It's science
Hope
no in jail. In jail, it's bonobos, you monkey
Hope
Keep your poo to yourself
Maraich
So immature, all of you 
Kaili
pats your shoulder, it can definitely feel like A Lot when you underestimate the amount of blowback your character's gonna get, esp when there's a lot of excited OOC chatter about it too
Kaili
I think it's pretty cool and exciting how this has stirred things up personally!
Hope
Same 
Kaili
(and fwiw Kyoko is super mad that Angry Words are not given any grace, even if she DOES completely understand why he got that response)
Xiu Ya Time
Yes! I'm glad this has given everyone so much to interact with
Kaili
it's just a real neat lil plot!
Maraich
Yes, it's definitely something fresh
Maraich
And
Maraich
We haven't even gotten the details of what they've discovered yet
Maraich
Potentially more incoming
Xiu Ya Time
Oh man lmao
Maraich
It's been a while since much new info has come out
Xiu Ya Time
Honestly the mods could do so much storywise with this
Kaili
Bret ๐
which i think would have also like... helped, haha.
Bret ๐
like ICwise
Maraich
We can pretty easily write off why they don't have the info out there yet
Maraich
First, they went to jail
Bret ๐
oh yeah totally
Maraich
Second, they're not trying to lead the natives to where they hid the goods
Maraich
So it makes sense that they don't know immediately
Bret ๐
definitely
Bret ๐
it just would have helped in the sense that there are characters going "okay well we are listening"
Bret ๐
(I do not mean this as a dig cuz LIFE~ and threads taking time, just narratively speakin)
Maraich
I am interested to see what they find out
Maraich
There's Aellyn script, too
Maraich
That they will need to decipher
Bret ๐
ya
Maraich
It might be a good opportunity to get a different character on that
KIะG DฮD
I wonder if holding hands will help with that since that is what let them see snippets of what was in the library books they were fixing way back
Maraich
Verstael and Tony are getting into computer stuff, and Verstael and Feanor would have written down Aellyn script they saw that a translator could tackle
Maraich
Possible
Maraich
Hold hands with him, Regis~
KIะG DฮD
wary look Will he get that hand back in one piece?
Maraich
Verstael has remained unarmed even during the breakin~
KIะG DฮD
He left his brain behind? Cause you KNOW that is his more dangerous weapon.
Maraich
He's flattered 
Maraich
Also would be hilarious if Regis actually asked that, considering how well-armed Regis is in comparison lol
Maraich
One of these men could kill the other in a second
KIะG DฮD
could, but that man is also burdened with this thing called morality and fair play. LOL
Xiu Ya Time
Maraich
Truly horrible things