lucineblue
... Does anyone actually like what Chrono Cross did to Chrono Trigger's plot?
Kaysper
NO.
lucineblue
I actually laughed out loud jsyk
lucineblue
but like... yeah. It feels so... negative compared to how uplifting Chrono Trigger was.
Kaysper
Here's the thing. They didn't even DO anything with their DARKER N' EDGIER approach.
Kaysper
Like, if they'd managed to turn it all around, and the characters had a few simple arcs where... IDK. They go back in time and help rescue the main cast. Or they get real proper closure on fighting the villains and avenging the heroes. Or basically get to change the world for the better so the original cast had a meaningful sacrifice.
Kaysper
If they used all that to prove that hey, things might get dark, they might get scary, but that's okay and it's possible to pull through and be stronger.
Kaysper
...BUT FUCKING NOPE.
Kaysper
There's just some handwavy bullshit and rushed endpostition about parallel timelines and unifying some WILDLY different timestreams oh and everyone is going to forget about this whole thing anyway.
Kaysper
But hey I guess they saved Schala... Kind of. Somehow. Again. Rushed as hell plot dump at the end of the game. But yeah that was pretty much the only positive.
~Mei~
I played chrono cross... but I can't remember any of it... which probably goes to show how much I liked it. I mean I have a horrible memory which means I can replay games a lot and find them fun.
~Mei~
but never went back to this one... I remember a cute girl in red. and... some panther..?
lucineblue
The music and visuals are really the only plus's of that game.
BERSERKER
literally, no.

there are people that liked Chrono Cross's plot, don't get me wrong!
BERSERKER
But the people who liked Chrono Cross's plot either didn't give two shits about the Chrono Trigger connection or thought it was a flaw
Walker
as a PS1 JRPG, it was gorgeous and had an interesting battle system
Walker
as a sequel it was terrible
skarme
basically what sword said
skarme
i have a very soft spot for everything cross did as a game but not as a sequel
Rindude
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Rindude
Honestly cross may of been salvagable Plot wise if Kato gave 2 more shits then he did about Radical Dreamers
Rindude
SInce Chrono Cross's entire existence is because he was dissatsifed with the Kid and Sunflower part of that game and he actually refused to give his opinion or help write it when it was being written
Kaysper
I'm still so salty about all the endposition.
Kaysper
Because... Okay, yes. The visuals and the music are amazing, and I will fight anyone who says otherwise on the side of the street. And they honestly kept me going because I wanted to see what sort of beautiful environments and soundtrack the game was going to throw at me next!
Kaysper
And I kept thinking that hey, maybe the plot will pull itself together and do SOMETHING.
Kaysper
But once we got to the former three main characters as ghost children on the beach dropping 10+ dialogue windows... That's when I got angry. And also going "god but I wish I was playing YOUR game right now."
Azure ☪ Moon
I do not know a single person that likes the chrono trigger tie in
Azure ☪ Moon
Not one
bunnymoon
As someone on the outside looking in, I had no idea it had any sort of direct tie ins to CT. I never saw anything mentioning them
bunnymoon
So I just figured it was a "sequel" like the zelda games are sequels, same world but that's it
Rindude
;=; poor robo
Kaysper
I still get so very ANGRY over that section.
Kaysper
"HEY remember one of your favorite characters from the original game? Let's bring him back for three or so dialogue boxes and then unceremoniously kill him off."
Kaysper
Chrono Cross, you are damn lucky that you had a killer soundtrack section following that train wreck.
Rindude
Downer stuff can be good and fun but Chrono cross felt mean spirited at times
Rindude
Look how they massacared my boy and locked him out of having special endings in the PS and DS remakes
lucineblue
that's actually something that pissed me off about the remakes
lucineblue
them retconing shit from Chrono Cross into Chrono Trigger
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