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[gore, cannibalism warnings] I want to talk about the scariest antagonist in ongoing shonen manga so this is a Chainsaw Man spoiler plurk, about Makima
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https://images.plurk.com/1WGYXnal5PD7NYKgHCALhs.png this is Makima, in her first appearance
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she runs the devil hunters
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in this world, devils are based on concepts, with power based on how much humanity fears that concept
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the protagonist becomes Chainsaw Devil, while working for Makima as a devil hunter
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for the first couple volumes, that's about all you know about Makima
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this is the first time someone makes a direct move against her
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four guys with guns just pop out and put a bullet through her skull, killing her instantly
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https://images.plurk.com/H9esHdgAjE1J7yCqnWlF6.png this is the next time you see her
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Makima is very hard to get rid of
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and also someone who
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you do not want as an enemy
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because Makima is a devil
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specifically, Control Devil
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I previously did a plurk about Gun Devil and his establishing scene
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one of the most alarming displays of villain power in manga ever
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Gun Devil was here summoned as a contract with the US president
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who offered it one year off of the lifespan of every American citizen
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in exchange for sending it to kill Makima
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
I was thinking authority devil but damn thats still good too
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That scene continues for another three seconds
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https://images.plurk.com/1NOvgEHUb1Y7uEgQwEXgRI.png https://images.plurk.com/3AXPkI3U5GSt2LozxEihm.png https://images.plurk.com/6MQ6rBTKPMywJ8fWTJvkGt.png during which we learn Makima's power
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anyone who belongs to her, she can invoke the abilities of without consent
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https://images.plurk.com/1DX3XeGHZawniNY1wRH543.png the fight ends in Gun Devil's death
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The reason Makima keeps being fine when killed is because of another contract she made
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https://images.plurk.com/5BG6gkfvFl14eR731FnpAo.png every time she dies, a random Japanese citizen dies in her place
Princess Emily
whoops
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that's one way to do immortality
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what Makima spends most of the series doing is bringing happiness to Denji, the protagonist
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giving him a happy life, where he doesn't have to make any hard choices and can just live happily with her and let her make all the choices
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https://images.plurk.com/6YzTz7fFnotCHij9tEYquw.png Eventually, Denji agrees to be Makima's dog
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he begins to regret this extremely quickly
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Makima's ultimate goal is to break the contract between Denji and Chainsaw Devil so that she can gain control of it for herself, because of its secret unbelievably broken powers
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https://images.plurk.com/2A3Ub3fHtmDEmCmR8xMVlJ.png During the final fight between Chainsaw Devil and Makima, she just has dozens of guys floating in the air around her to take all damage she takes by proxy
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https://images.plurk.com/3HOlpTIz4CncpUCdGT30vF.png you can't beat Makima
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Denji has, as of the latest chapter, found what might be a way to deal with her, or might not
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it's horrifying, but nothing that isn't horrifying can stop Makima
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
wh... what is that way
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ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
OH
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
OKAY
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
SURE
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like I'm like
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FAIRLY SURE
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Makima is still not dead
Rama
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
i mean i guess
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
it's
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
technically better than the horrifying idea i had to kill makima
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what's that
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
'kill her until the remaining population of japan is 0'
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
'then kill her one more time'
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yeah that'd probably do it
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if you had the firepower to kill that monster 300 million times
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really it would be much easier to kill all the other people in Japan, then kill Makima once
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
true
𝗛𝗮𝗽𝗽𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗡𝗲𝘄𝗬𝗲𝗮𝗿!
not to sound like a walking parody of myself but makima might be the scariest and therefore hottest female antagonist ive ever seen
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
but yeah you said 'horrifying' and i was like
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
stares into the abyss
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yeah
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
after gun devil's, thing
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those people were collateral damage
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its only mission was to kill Makima
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which, technically, it did
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
did everyone in america still lose the year off their lifespan even though gun devil died
𝗛𝗮𝗽𝗽𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗡𝗲𝘄𝗬𝗲𝗮𝗿!
i think my favourite touch in this last bit is that all those packages in the fridge are not just closed, but bound shut with – i guess twine, maybe?
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don't want em to get out!
BF
I can’t believe my taxes and lifespan are going to a gun demon- wait, yes I can
Echo
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, actually.
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all just to extralegally assassinate a foreigner
Echo
Also, here's something I'm kind of curious about: could you attack Makima by just dissolving the nation of Japan?
Echo
Not the actual country itself.
Echo
I'm talking about the legal, recognized government.
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her contract was with the prime minister, so... it's an interesting question
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hell, if you fired him
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would the contract still bind
Echo
If they all got together and officially declared that the nation of Japan was no longer extant, and all Japanese citizenships were revoked- yeah, exactly.
izzy.vrm
well it depends on how the contract is worded
Echo
Would they still die in her place?
izzy.vrm
s it with "that specific PM"
BF
Imagine if we found out Trump made a contract with the Gun Devil
Echo
Yeah, you probably have a point.
izzy.vrm
or is it with "whoever is PM at this time"
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for extra fun
Echo
...honestly, I think I'd be more disappointed with the Gun Devil on that one.
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that 'extremely broken secret power' of chainsaw devil is
BF
And MAGAts started arguing why a demon eating our lifespans is actually cool and good
Echo
Like, come on, dude.
Echo
You can do better.
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when it eats a devil
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that devil's concept is erased from history
Echo
You're a high-tier villain, you don't need that.
Echo
...um.
Echo
Shit???
izzy.vrm
YEAH
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I don't know if what Denji's doing counts, since he's eating her, not chainsaw devil
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but like
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Makima mentions the Nazis guy to someone at one point
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and he's like "what are those"
Echo
Also, is it like ever clarified why fucking Chainsaw Devil has that power?
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because Chainsaw Devil at some point killed and ate Nazi Devil
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NOPE
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not yet at least
Echo
(Side note: good on you, Chainsaw Devil. Did us a solid on that one.)
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the story is not over
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she also references some other things that Chainsaw Devil destroyed, and now only she remembers them
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like AIDS
izzy.vrm
where's that list of "things chainsaw devil has eaten"
izzy.vrm
yeah
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or the star that makes children go insane if they look at it
BF
As far as erasing things from history goes, chainsaws are pretty effective
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or the other five possible endings of life other than death
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or the sixth sense all humans have
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you know, normal stuff, that no longer exists
𝗛𝗮𝗽𝗽𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗡𝗲𝘄𝗬𝗲𝗮𝗿!
idk if it was intentional foreshadowing but
𝗛𝗮𝗽𝗽𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗡𝗲𝘄𝗬𝗲𝗮𝗿!
i love that one of the first things chainsaw man is established as having been responsible for erasing is nazis and like
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Makima's endgame is to take control of chainsaw devil and use it to create a utopia
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just go around eating anything humanity would be better without
𝗛𝗮𝗽𝗽𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗡𝗲𝘄𝗬𝗲𝗮𝗿!
makima is the only person who knows that and yet never clues onto the fact that maybe he would not be cool and chill with her doing some more mega fascism
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chainsaw devil eats war devil
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death devil
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poverty devil
Echo
superorbital: In fairness, maybe she thought it'd be okay if she wasn't racist about it?
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
holy shit.
𝗛𝗮𝗽𝗽𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗡𝗲𝘄𝗬𝗲𝗮𝗿!
which is just another point in favor of the fact that whatever she thinks, she really does not understand csm at all
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
....... i'm wondering if it's like, related to chainsaws burning fuel.
Echo
"No, it's okay, I'm not going to persecute any specific ethnic group, I'm just going to rule over all living beings with an iron fist equally. :-) "
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
a chainsaw 'eats' gasoline and burns it as fuel to cut things.
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csm?
Echo
...which is admittedly kind of better than Nazis, but still not okay.
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
so a chainsaw eats a devil, and burns that concept to keep cutting.
Echo
Chainsaw Man, I assume.
𝗛𝗮𝗽𝗽𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗡𝗲𝘄𝗬𝗲𝗮𝗿!
chainsaw man
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ahh
Echo
And huh, that would be symbolically neat.
Echo
Although it would raise questions about why other devils don't have such incredibly powerful conceptual abilities disproportionate to their actual, like... general strength.
shivorce
I think my favorite cool fact about devils in the series is how fear powers them
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it's so good
shivorce
Gun devil is powerful because people fear guns
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And chainsaw man is stronger because every other devil fears him
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world governments heavily restrict gun sales and limit news exposure about gun slayings
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because the more people commit and are aware of gun violence
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the stronger gun devil becomes
shivorce
Makima is powerful because people fear her and fear control
daughter hours
on the one hand I should read this
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on the other hand I saw the spoilers about Power when it happened and like
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with absolutely no other context or familiarity
shivorce
Also hilarious: Makima actively wants chainsaw man to eat her
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it was still EXTREMELY upsetting
𝗛𝗮𝗽𝗽𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗡𝗲𝘄𝗬𝗲𝗮𝗿!
also can i just say one of my favourite bits of extremely understated horror
shivorce
If she can't control chainsaw man, she would like him to eat her
𝗛𝗮𝗽𝗽𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗡𝗲𝘄𝗬𝗲𝗮𝗿!
is two words
𝗛𝗮𝗽𝗽𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗡𝗲𝘄𝗬𝗲𝗮𝗿!
spider devil
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more spoilers related to Power:
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Cbjre zvtug fgvyy or nyvir
rose time
also relevant to power:
rose time
Jung gur shpx qvq lbh whfg shpxvat fnl nobhg cbjre, lbh yvggyr ovgpu? V'yy unir lbh xabj fur tenqhngrq gbc bs gur pynff va gur qrzba uhagref, naq V'ir orra vaibyirq va ahzrebhf frperg envqf ba gur Tha Qrivy, naq fur unf bire 300 VD
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I fucking love Power
go тo вread
I need to read this
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