ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
why yes i’m sitting here at breakfast thinking about how to AU selene into ASOIAF so i can throw her into the snow meme
ᏝᎥᏝᏕ
Have her be from Slaver's Bay. Meereen or Yunkai
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
i mean aside from the quick “westeros is england, egypt is in essos” hahaha
ᏝᎥᏝᏕ
Whoops lol
𝔉𝔦𝔯𝔢𝔟𝔯𝔞𝔫𝔡𝔢𝔡
🤔 did you want her from essos or maybe Dorne? She could be related to the Martells?
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
la_fille_en_histoire haha yes it’ll go back to that if i can’t think of anything
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
𝔉𝔦𝔯𝔢𝔟𝔯𝔞𝔫𝔡𝔢𝔡 i’m thinking a valyrian dragonlord family that ofc got wiped out in the doom. the ptolemies were an entire dynasty so she can’t be just a princess, even if she’s the only survivor now lmao she’s a targaryen-grade princess (LOL)
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
link so i can get back to this whenever:
Dragonlord
ᏝᎥᏝᏕ
I love the idea of another Valyrian family aside from the Targaryens
ᏝᎥᏝᏕ
Have her be a Valyrian princess. The Targaryens weren't very high in rank in Old Valyria. It would shake things up
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
la_fille_en_histoire her family’s known to intermarry historically too so very targaryen (LOL) she was supposed to marry her older half-brother
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
but rome defeated egypt so lol
ᏝᎥᏝᏕ
Yes I know. My inner history buff squealed a little at seeing her. Since GRRM based the Targs on the Ptolemies, you should so have them as a royal house
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
i also like the Essos idea!!
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
ancient Egypt was a boss ass bitch in the ancient world, it'd be a neat equivalent for her to come from one of those old ~dawn of civilization~ regions like Valyria, huehuehue.
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
i don't remember, does Essos have an equivalent to maesters? maybe her fam could be all about the educational institutions in Essos like in history, idk.
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
la_fille_en_histoire okay i actually didn't know that, no wonder all the parallels! (LOL)
ᏝᎥᏝᏕ
It just means Selene will fit in all the better
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ oh yessss and valyria being destroyed by the cataclysmic events... OF COURSE IT FITS HER CANON with all those ancient artifacts of doom. though yeah i'm definitely thinking about the library
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
........ but culturally they'll be more rhoynar (thinking)
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
The Rhoynar used water magic to defend themselves from enemies. the trident of poseidon / shard of water anyone??
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
The Rhoynar worshiped a number of river-themed nature gods. hahaha worship of the nile and all that jazz
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
... while the andals would be the romans i think
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
wiki links: rhoynar, andals, first men
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
idk about maesters but that's what i found ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
𝔉𝔦𝔯𝔢𝔟𝔯𝔞𝔫𝔡𝔢𝔡
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
... and i just read the discussions paralleling dany and cleopatra (LOL)
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
so they called it that she would be the last targaryen on the throne
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
because cleopatra was the last ptolemy
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
lmao and they're saying that jon is caesar HAHAHA
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
also, for the history nerds lurking on here:
Were The Targaryens From 'Game Of Thrones' Inspired ...
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
this made me laugh (LOL) Valyria is basically the Roman Republic with dragons and blondes.
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
i'm deep diving into all of this................. good bye, evening..........
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
One of the oldest empires in the world of Game of Thrones is known as the Ghiscari Empire. It is similar to the North African empires of the ancient world, mainly Egypt and Carthage, as well as the Persian empire. Ghiscari is the oldest known culture in the world just like Egypt was to Europe during the medieval ages.
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
ooh, that's cool.
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
selene's husband is a conquered romanized king from north africa sooooo
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
IT'S LEGIT.
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ i think i found the answer to your question re: maesters, also here's the wiki for myr which idk could be alexandria??? looks like the egyptians would be the rhoynar buuuut the ptolemys were macedonian greek so valyrian works HAHAHA
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
omg, i found the exact same post in my hunt to know, great minds google alike.
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
Lance like if Myr is such a bastion of enlightenment, why is Thoros such a fuck??
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
(LOL) well he was hanging out with the cults rather than the library???
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
also if we're going this way... r'hllor would be ra wouldn't he
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
pls just imagine Lancelot opening and closing his mouth. he wants to refute it but he can't. HE CAN'T.
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
hmm, that's a good question, i wonder if GRRM was inspired by any Egyptian deities. (thinking)
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
that would be fun in the “we made up your god” sense hahaha
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
i mean the old gods are clearly norse
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
and i think the seven could be a stripped down version of the olympians (LOL)
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
or the roman gods since westeros is rome now
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
are they actually inspired by Norse mythology??
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ idk what GRRM said about them but given what i know about norse, they seem to be (LOL)
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
i thought it was Celtic England for sure with the whole gods of the forest/animal messengers thing.
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
well there’s a mix of celtic too
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
but the whole “winter is coming” is very norse
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
i had to look it up out of curiosity and:
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
The Old Gods in George R. R. Martin’s series are based on an interesting blend of the faerie and Norse mythology. While two different mythological cosmologies, the blending makes a great deal of sense, as there were borrowings when the Norse—more famously known as Vikings—invaded and controlled parts of England, Scotland, and Ireland
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
that makes a lot of sense.
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
WE WERE RIGHT LMFAO
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
LMAO OUR NORSE & CELTIC SPIDEY SENSES WERE TINGLING.
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
idk if GRRM has said word of god about it but tbh i could believe that's legit.
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
George RR Martin has also confirmed that there are strong parallels between the plot of Games of Thrones and the 15th-century Wars of the Roses, in which Wales played a large part.
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
As with Game of Thrones’ Joffrey Baratheon, the Wars of the Roses included younger heirs to the throne – the Princes in the Tower – who were probably murdered so that another – Richard III – could seize the throne. The role of Pembroke-born Henry VII, banished across the sea but out to seize the throne for himself, is taken up by Daenerys Targaryen.
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
i love all this stuff.
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
it's NEAT.
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
yeah i know the westerosi war is inspired by that war of the roses
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
okay so i'm leaning towards the ptolemies being valyrian royalty, wiped out during the doom of valyria because of the shards in selene's canon... i'm wondering if i should just have her be reincarnated if only because, you know, egyptian things HAHAHA. and there's a great library in myr which is hiding the book of thoth (important canon thing!)
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
A number of the characters in Game of Thrones have Welsh names which give some clue to their character or fate. One of the most obvious is ‘Tyrion’ – whose name isn’t far from the Welsh word ‘Tirion’ meaning ‘considerate’.

The dwarf, although he can be cruel, is also one of the more sympathetic characters in the series owing to his own mistreatment.
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
i'm getting lost in these cool little factoids, send help.
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
yaaaaas, great library.
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
OR as my shower epiphany has revealed to me... what if alexander the great simply fled from valyria during the doom and went idk south or east while the targaryens went west, and conquered egypt and built alexandria and all that? so house ptolemy would be a rival house to the targaryens and all that
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
DO IT
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
THE GREAT LIBRARY
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
IT MUST EXIST IN SOME FORM
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
also look at us geeking over our history ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
someone's gotta introduce more people from these mysterious eastern lands sdlfjg
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
YES, IT MUST
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
LMFAO
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
you're gonna love Shards if you nerd over history this much
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
https://images.plurk.com/4Qe7EcrDPyq0Csd9XIOn08.jpg
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
you'll know if i've started reading them if i start caps shouting about the crossover potential.
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
my minor in uni was ancient and medieval history and to this day my parents are still skeptical that's a real thing, hahaha.
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
I BEGIN WITH Selene's ancestry can be traced back to House Argos, a dragonlord family of Old Valyria. Their sigil is the Star of the Argeadai and their house words are "Every light is not the sun."
Vergina Sun - Wikipedia
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
I HAVE MEETINGS BUT YEAH THAT'S WHERE I'M HEADING WITH HER AU
𝔉𝔦𝔯𝔢𝔟𝔯𝔞𝔫𝔡𝔢𝔡
ʙʀᴏᴏᴋʟʏɴ ʙᴀʀʙɪᴇ
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ OMG that explains it! though... i just also love history. i grew up with encyclopedias and things sooo lmao
𝔉𝔦𝔯𝔢𝔟𝔯𝔞𝔫𝔡𝔢𝔡
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ : because I can
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
gasp, the baby emote, how dare.
ᴅᴏᴠɪᴇɴʏᴀ
listen we love and support encyclopedia-browsing in this house of geekdom, lmao.
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