oh well I guess that's that then 🙃
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[guess what! more complaining about that mg server] 
oh well I guess that's that then 🙃
oh well I guess that's that then 🙃
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that straight up isn't what I said but ok
Niamh Vibes
oh no
VanityPhroject
...as in taking Japanese characters made by Japanese creators and racebending them?
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yep
VanityPhroject
yeah that feels like a convo I am in no way qualified to directly take part in
tutorials georg
yeah like... I know she's Japanese living in Japan and the views there are different from diaspora populations but...
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it ain't even the fact that she disagrees that bugged me it's the immediate public call out and shut down lmfao
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but yeah the part that bugs me is that this sort of stuff is often done performatively by ppl who have a sort of... god I had the word in my head yesterday but I've forgotten. but esp with people who draw characters as fat, there's this idea that you should be grateful for it
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like "look how woke I am!!! I'm creating representation for you!!! you're welcome, fatties!!!!"
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and then there's the million and one super iffy stereotypes that a lot of ppl who do this fall into -- black fat nozomi is especially bad in this regard bc it falls headfirst into mammy stereotypes
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like... don't think we don't see that the character who keeps getting drawn like this is the maternal one lol
Echo
It really does seem like they jumped straight to least charitable possible interpretation of what you said, yeah.
ɢᴏᴢᴛғᴜᴋʀ
mmmmmMMMMMM
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there's been some rly good and really fun designs done by black folks during blacktober (I'm not going that far back into my twitter TL to find it but there was a REALLY great black usagi who did a super cute interp of her buns as afro buns that I loved)
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but there's also been just as many that were like
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"draw this white character exactly the same as usual but just use a horrible ashy corpse skin tone for them" as if black ppl are just dark skinned white folks
siwas ✨
There is some incredible blacktober art for sure
siwas ✨
but this person... hmm... are they always like this?
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
bruh
▲ndrusi
lily!
I feel like this goes hand in hand with the really bad weeb assumption that anime characters are by default white even though they're Japanese which is a whole slew of other issues.
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they're very
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I don't want to say Combative but they definitely have some strong Debate Me energy going
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katzenjammer
oh that reminds me of this really neat Addams family au someone did
katzenjammer
lemme see if I can find it, it was really good, it had them as a southern black family
ANGRY GUITARS
OH THEVERYWORSTTHING
ANGRY GUITARS
THEY'RE SO GOOD
ANGRY GUITARS
the very worst thing
slaps this down
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OH THIS IS SO GOOD
katzenjammer
THAT ONE YES!!!!
katzenjammer
its very good 
kit!
i have not liked this gal in the server bc she started whining about mary cagle’s anime podcast for being negative about mg shows and was like “oh i thought mgrp was really adorable! people forget that every mg series has fans 
“ and i sat there wanting to go
“ and i sat there wanting to go
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LMAO GOD LYNSEY MENTIONED THAT EXACT CONVERSATION TO ME ON VOICE THIS MORNING
kit!
“which part was adorable??? the constant death or the edgelord backstories or the closeup of a character pissing themselves after dying????”
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how fuckin dare Mary have opinions on her own goddamn podcast I guess
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she's got this incredible combo of condescension and Debate Me energy and it's unbearable
kit!
i can’t believe I’m going to say this but
kit!
ultimate fucker bluntasaur was slightly more tolerable
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GOD YOU'RE RIGHT AND I HATE IT
kit!
anyways the thing i noticed in her whining about mary’s podcast was that she also was like “i have some trauma wrt negativity in the mg fandom “ which she never elaborated on and it just emitted such powerful “i caused drama but I’M the victim” energy that it irritated the shit out of me
“ which she never elaborated on and it just emitted such powerful “i caused drama but I’M the victim” energy that it irritated the shit out of me
kit!
i have no proof but i definitely get that vibe!!!!
𝖊𝖎𝖊𝖓 𝖓𝖔 𝖔𝖜𝖆𝖗𝖎 ☾
lmao yeah I got a similar vibe from that
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yeah Lynsey was saying she like
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kept avoiding elaborating on it
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which is DEFINITELY a red flag for playing the victim lmao
𝖊𝖎𝖊𝖓 𝖓𝖔 𝖔𝖜𝖆𝖗𝖎 ☾
Nah it was her thoughts on Mary’s comic about teaching English in Japan that he wouldn’t elaborate on
𝖊𝖎𝖊𝖓 𝖓𝖔 𝖔𝖜𝖆𝖗𝖎 ☾
Even when asked
kit!
YEAH that seemed like such a weird comment
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oh god that's right
𝖊𝖎𝖊𝖓 𝖓𝖔 𝖔𝖜𝖆𝖗𝖎 ☾
But yeah didn’t elaborate on this mg fandom drama either
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EVEN DUMBER!!
kit!
“oh what was wrong with it?” “UM IDK I CANT REMEMBER TEHE”
𝖊𝖎𝖊𝖓 𝖓𝖔 𝖔𝖜𝖆𝖗𝖎 ☾
That said though I will say looking back over at the convo where this happened I can actually see why she ended up having this reaction bc Mindo’s original comments referencing the tweet brought up blacktober hate specifically
kit!
it just feels like she radiates this aura of Well I Live In Japan So Don’t Question Me and it just feels so condescending
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oh for sure
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someone posted about ep 1 of Akkochan being available on yt and used the localised title which is like
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So on a reread I could see why someone might take someone else saying “well there’s a discussion to be had about racebending” as anti-blacktober, but still doesn’t change the fact that they’re pretty aggro and shitty about it
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Also lol yeah
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"akko's got a secret" or something inoffensive like that
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and she went OH THAT'S THE FUNNIEST TRANSLATION I'VE SEEN FOR THAT SO FAR TEE HEE and I was like 
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I’ve muted the server entirely for a few weeks now since she and her friend who likes prisma illya showed up
kit!
oh EW
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(This is the other person who says they live in Japan FYI)
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Neither of them seem familiar with Eryn’s content prior to joining the server either so I’m just kind of 
kit!
honestly? honestly ayu emits “weeb living the dream in anime paradise japan” vibes and it weirds me the fuck out
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Like.... I did not join this server bc of magical girls bc honestly magical girl fandom is kind of unfun to deal with (and this server has been a big reminder as to why)
𝖊𝖎𝖊𝖓 𝖓𝖔 𝖔𝖜𝖆𝖗𝖎 ☾
I joined bc I like Eryn’s content and wanted to talk to her and other people who like her stuff.....
kit!
i was actually rly excited to see a tabletop channel and immediately felt very frustrated bc it’s filled with the same indie ttrpg attitude i hate of “combat/crunchy system bad, narrative can only exist in a dice light game”
𝖊𝖎𝖊𝖓 𝖓𝖔 𝖔𝖜𝖆𝖗𝖎 ☾
I mean I believe her when she says she’s actually Japanese so I don’t quite get that vibe entirely buuuuuut as I was telling claire earlier I do get the same sort of vibe I’ve gotten from some other people in the past like uh
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The girl who tried to argue with me about what the kanji 足 meant and had a “I’m japanese so I’m right” attitude about it
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(she wasn’t)
kit!
i don’t venture in there much bc i get the same vibe i got in the fanseries discord of “we value niceties over dealing with problems but people can be combative up until you tell them off in which case you’re the bad guy, not the shithead looking for a fight”
kit!
like im glad bluntasaur finally got banned but why the fuck did it take so goddamn long about it
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(And she was second generation and not fluent but anyway)
𝖊𝖎𝖊𝖓 𝖓𝖔 𝖔𝖜𝖆𝖗𝖎 ☾
lmao yeah
𝖊𝖎𝖊𝖓 𝖓𝖔 𝖔𝖜𝖆𝖗𝖎 ☾
Like at this point I’m pretty through with it
𝖊𝖎𝖊𝖓 𝖓𝖔 𝖔𝖜𝖆𝖗𝖎 ☾
We mentioned before to Eryn that she should consider some mods and she hasn’t yet and it’s like. Okay well this is gonna stay bad unless there’s mods
kit!
like i get it blew up but it’s been how many months now?
𝖊𝖎𝖊𝖓 𝖓𝖔 𝖔𝖜𝖆𝖗𝖎 ☾
A more dedicated team able to see more stuff and also discuss things so one person doesn’t get caught up in their own head about it and whether they’re overreacting would solve so many problems
𝖊𝖎𝖊𝖓 𝖓𝖔 𝖔𝖜𝖆𝖗𝖎 ☾
lmao yeah
𝖊𝖎𝖊𝖓 𝖓𝖔 𝖔𝖜𝖆𝖗𝖎 ☾
But yeah I’ve just been happier with it on mute
kit!
ive been muting it too tbh
𝖊𝖎𝖊𝖓 𝖓𝖔 𝖔𝖜𝖆𝖗𝖎 ☾
Even when I look in now it’s not as many of the usual faces anymore that I enjoyed talking to most so I’m like bleh