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give me a character/fandom and i'll tell you the worst or weirdest fandom takes i've seen
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I spent 7 years on tumblr, so
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north
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twofouroneten: Bad take: North is a super nice guy with zero flaws who will always be super generous and never, say, explode on you after bottling things up for a long time
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Real take: North is an asshole, just like everyone else in the Project. It's just under a veneer of super sweetness and downright passive-aggressiveness, depending on the situation
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He IS nuturing and caring. He's just also Always Right.
zalice
tex
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also wash
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zalice : Bad take: Tex is a total bitch and would sell her grandmother's soul for cash. She doesn't care about anyone or anythign and is abusive.
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Real take: Tex is kind and selfless but she doesn't like to show it, so she represses expressing her true feelings and doesn't explain to people how much she cares about them
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She IS goal-oriented, so she wants first to accomplish killing Omega, and then the goal of winning the war
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But the decision to do the things she needed to do in order to accomplish those goals was hard, when it came to hurting people
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(The "Tex is abusive" take results in some awful portrayals in fic. I really hate that one.)
zalice
.... It's hard to imagine takes like that last one, but then, fandom is Quite A Fucking Place 😂
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Bad take: Wash is a cold, sarcastic asshole and the flashbacks woobified him and made him less respectable
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Real take: Wash was desperate in seasons 6-8 and became harder than he'd ever been in his life. The flashbacks showed us that he's actually a bit of a dork and that he was kind of new to being a special agent, and it actually explains some things in seasons 6-8
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For example, South's utter disbelief that he'd ever shoot her
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Or the fact that "the profile" (written by the Counselor, no doubt) showed that he'd save her life and cover it up
zalice
Shit yeah
zalice
The counselor got a lot right, and it looked like he was sniffing for things he should have? .... But he also got shit wrong, and wasn't close enough to be actually on the mark
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There's a specific subset of the fandom that believes that stuff about Wash and they are also all antis, so
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And yeah, the counselor was damn good at his job...it's just that his job was NOT to be helpful to the agents
zalice
😩Freaking fandom...
zalice
YEAH, I think the takes where the Counselor was actively messing with people as part of his role as The Counselor (gearing them towards falling apart and turning against each other) are my favorite takes
zalice
ones where he wasn't bad at his job, but was actually Very Good
zalice
Oh, another take: Church
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Bad take, which I will say with caution, because it's OKAY for people to project onto characters and see their sexuality and stuff if they want...but it's still a bad take if you're looking at his ACTUAL in0show characterization
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But it's that Church is gay and never really cared that much about Tex, she was just his beard
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And again I will say...if you want your favorite character to be gay because you're gay, that's fine! That's cool! But also Epsilon!church is canonically either bi or greyace with a Tex preference, lol
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So I tend to think Alpha!Church and the Director are same
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Oh, and also: Church never really cared about anyone in the canyon and just wanted to leave/rest
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Real take: Church cares so much but hates to show it
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He wants to be a nonchalant loner, but he's (in my opinion) actually somewhat of an extrovert and needs people
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Also i think Church is bi, not gay or ace
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In 𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙 𝖕𝖗𝖔𝖕𝖊𝖗! 's "bad takes" plurk she said:

"The biggest problem that I see in analysis for this canon is people being unable to sit with the ambiguity or imperfections of grey characters and needing to either fully condemn them or fully exonerate them even when they did shitty things.
That’s the root of 90% of bad takes on characters."
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I think that's very true and explains a lot of these
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Like Tex being a total bitch and North being a complete pushover nice dude
zalice
Makes sense, yeah!
zalice
/has no popcorn emoji, but is popcorning the takes
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zalice : I mean, there's still a page for Connie on the Villians Wiki
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People just can't analyze canons, lol
𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙 𝖕𝖗𝖔𝖕𝖊𝖗!
I was talking about Game of Thrones/ASOIAF, by the way, but I think it’s applicable to a lot of canons.
zalice
Hnnnngh connie is COMPLICATED...
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(York?)
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zalice : Bad take: York is the hero and can do no wrong
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Real take: York is so flawed omfg
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What is wrong with these people
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He doesn't communicate, and he makes a ton of assumptions about what's going on in the other person's mind
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Like when Carolina starts training hard after losing Connie and he just assumes it's about topping the leaderboard instead of, you know, feeling super bad she couldn't prevent the killing of a teammate
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When he comes and tells her he wants to "get those things out of your head" without explaining what's wrong with them
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When he assumes she would just want to leave with him and doesn't explain why she would do that, either
zalice
Very unfortunately he missed the part where Carolina already had trust issues the size of that tower they all jumped off of
zalice
And that saying 'trust me!!!' was... Not very effective 😩
zalice
These are good takes and responses, ftr
Bippy
zalice : I'll share my popcorn
Bippy
Because this deserves all the popcorn and apparently I need lots of popcorn emotes .
urbaninja
Slightly adjacent, but I was looking through some old plurks and found one where I responded to someone on tumblr who had the take that Felix was just being manipulated and just following orders and did nothing wrong and having that moment of did we watch the same show?
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(Which they later asked me and while I didn't respond I do believe we did)
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Hahaha Merc takes
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They're such a mess
urbaninja
It was like, right after we realized just how big of an asshole Felix actually was to. He's not manipulative my ass
zalice
This is a baffling take
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