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[ORV/全知讀者]
閱讀途中的想法記錄串,腐向發言/劇透/個人解釋注意
(進度:464/551)
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Last Stardust
不知為何每次看這種與命運或自己戰鬥的作品都會想起這首(......)放一下當BGM
因為太在意第四面牆結果在推特打了一堆......感覺蠻有道理的乾脆來記錄一下,可以下收也避免在推特吵到人XD
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第四面牆......本來以為單純只是人潛意識中為了保護自己才產生的東西,每個人都有只是讀者習慣自我抽離所以這項特性特別強大,結果現在怎麼看起來好像是有人特別製作了這個技能給他......tls123嗎......
然後要是第四道牆是什麼真正存在的東西其實我有想過是讀者ㄉ形象,黑獨之類ㄉ(好ㄌ夠了
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認真來說好了,想想其實閱讀這件事本身就是藉由讓自己沉浸在他人的故事中以增加體驗的一種手段,當觀者越是無法輕易沉浸在故事中,就表示那道隔離自己與故事的牆越厚重,心在冷靜之餘也不會受到任何感動
所以當獨越抽離、越想忽視情緒時,那堵牆也會更強......吧(thinking)莫非這就是獨子的牆會成為技能的原因?剛好他是這個世界觀下唯一的全知讀者,他雖然依靠閱讀故事活下去,受到感動卻也不是真的沉浸在裡面,他還是懷抱著自己的陰影,習慣作為一個冷靜的旁觀者來審視故事,甚至是自己的人生......
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天啊我也太會胡思亂想了吧 其實感覺好像往下繼續看完181就會有解答ㄌ可是這個設定發想太有趣了,如果只是被動接受作者餵給我的答案好不甘心(rofl)(是怎樣
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對於投入故事的人而言,第四道牆甚至可能不存在;而對於連現實都不願面對的人,第四道牆說不定能將人的心與世界徹底隔離......如果作者最後是要表達這個我會覺得很有趣,希望ㄅ要讓我失望(靠)
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第四道牆可說是每個人自行創造的,每個人可以決定要不要投入自己的感情與心,這點也反映了「閱讀本身就是在與自己對話」這個概念,每當讀者選擇沉浸在書裡,一定是因為一部分的自己被觸動,在品味創作的過程中看見了自身的影子......
這個概念延伸出來就是閱讀可以使人跨越時空去理解他人,因為創作就是作者靈魂的一部份......閱讀本身就是理解,作者與讀者藉由故事連結在一起,雖然可能不曾交流但卻深深地影響了他人,果然是一件很浪漫的事情吧,連故事本身的存在都浪漫透頂
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好ㄌ181看完ㄌ也沒有解釋第四道牆的問題!!!!我要大力放空變回和烏列爾同一陣線的女人ㄌ (死性不改
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不得不說實在是賣眾獨眾賣得超誇張,作者是腐女吧(幹)
到底為什麼有人會一直讓配角調侃兩個主角是不是在一起&在劇情中討論主角喜歡誰還特別弄一台機器來檢測誰ㄉ好感度最高wwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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-197
我快被第四道牆煩死wwwwwwww怎麼爆料讀者只要在重大場合或沒自信時都會忍不住自稱劉眾赫wwwwwwwwwwwww好可愛我要死ㄌwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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-216
“You and I are talking like this but we’re not really communicating. There is no such thing as communication in this world.”
[The ‘Unidentified Wall’ is looking at the Fourth Wall.]
「 Kim Dokja thought: Maybe reality or the novel is all the same. 」
「 I’ve read it for so long and I still don’t know. 」
「 Maybe I will never know. 」
對讀者來說果然現實小說都是沒兩樣的東西ㄋ...
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“However, we still have to talk. Even if there is a huge wall, there is a person behind that wall.”
“…What can we say when there is a wall?”
“Write on the wall...... If you shit or pee, you will leave something on the wall. That way, the other party will recognize it.”
“Why would you do such a thing? The other person is beyond the wall anyway…”
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作者沒有辜負我的期待耶...... 我ㄉ解釋好像也方向正確,好開心,這就是突破ㄌ作者的牆的感覺ㄇ(少臭美
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-222
「 “…I lived because of that guy. Well, I still would’ve somehow survived.’ 」
I was almost moved to tears when I read this part. If I had a place to show off then I would’ve boasted.
‘Everyone, take a look. That damn sunfish has grown.’
笑死wwwwwwwwwwwwwww天ㄛ翻車魚真的是不可自拔ㄌ(對
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-226
我...怎...........怎麼會..............金獨子................................
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我好難過......
讀者......一直以來都好寂寞......明明一直以來都依靠著旁觀和閱讀來自我隔離,但實際參與故事後才意識到自己已經不甘只當一個讀者......即使沒有了讀者故事也還是會進行下去真的好寂寞......他是只是個怕寂寞ㄉ寶包...... (支離破碎
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就算不用腐女眼光看待,原先冷酷的劉眾赫為了金獨子跨越了遙遠的距離,來到獨子面前述說獨子給予了大家多少東西,然後要跟他一起回去也很......天啊你不是讀者你已經是這個故事裡無可取代的存在ㄌ (我也不知道我在說什麼我真ㄉ很破碎
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前面獨子逼第四面牆把媽媽吐出來那段也看得我好難過......已經很習慣直接壓抑住感情麻痺自己了,但還是劇烈動搖然後大崩潰,越不願意面對自己的傷痛第四面牆就越頑強,最後敞開心胸才終於看見媽媽的回憶,因此更痛苦......嗚嗚 我真的很難過 他和自己進行ㄌ劇烈ㄉ鬥爭......他很棒......(我為什麼如此入戲
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其實四十到一百章左右的劇情真的蠻無聊的,文筆普通,情節頗俗套,角色塑造甚至有點扁平,要不是抱持著對於設定期待其實很悶,然而讀到後面的幾段劇情實在讓我忍不住懷疑這是作者刻意讓敘事水平符合金獨子的程度(......)
日常敘述都是用讀者第一人稱視角,他自己也說了他是讀者而不是作者,所以由他本身發出ㄉ文字會有點空洞好像也沒辦法(幹ㄚ),加上他全心全意把旁邊的人當成小說角色去理解與配置,又真的太全知,才展現不出獨子封閉的心......這個問題隨著能觸動獨子的人事物出現而逐漸被解決,日常文筆還是很普通,但第四面牆的整個設定帶活了金獨子這個人
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我下午也打太長了ㄅ我那時候有喜歡嗎......(動搖
kidult
路過悄悄留言一下(?
作者是一對夫妻,他們在小說完結後表示全知讀者是 "People like people, so they like the whole world."
對我來說是悲傷又治癒的故事x
在看完整本書後會對這句話有更深的體會,我就不多說了x
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kidult : 喔喔,原來是夫妻檔嗎 !!!好想知道他們都是怎麼合作寫出這個故事的XDDDDD這句話現在已經讓人頗有感觸了,不曉得看完以後是不是還能產生新的體(ㄓㄣˋ)悟(ㄉㄤˋ)......
kidult
祭月_粉碎性腦折 : 作者在後記還是採訪的時候說,他們如果其中一個如果寫不出來,另外一個也會寫不出來XDD
覺得莫名可愛XDD
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kidult : 夫妻一體同心(?)看起來應該是一起創作的樣子,所以才會大力被互相影響XDDDD
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破天劍聖是女的耶讚啦 看到師傅把眾像是提小雞一樣抓起來教訓有夠好看,眾和獨一起見師父也有種帶男友回家見家長的感......(由腐夠了沒
獨口出狂言要賣掉師傅的劍術時眾緊張ㄉ擋在兩人之間還把獨護在背後也很......怎麼寫得出這種同人會出現的情節啊(幹)
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-236
獨睡一睡被踹醒然後旁邊的眾剛訓練完結果上身赤裸到底是怎樣,哪來的同人劇情(ry)
不過就算不帶有色眼光來看也覺得他們可以站在平等位置討論真好......尤其獨本來還很猶豫,因為眾說了「我們的星雲」所以後來才決定冒險參加宴會也......很尊......
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-245
Yoo Jonghyuk stared at the Brash Swamp Predator and asked, “Perhaps… did this guy appear because of you?”
The bastard noticed quickly.
“…Kim Dokja?” He was filled with tremendous anger.
I reached out as an apology.
[The constellation ‘Demon King of Salvation’ has sponsored 100 coins to the incarnation ‘Yoo Jonghyuk.’]
“I don’t need it!”
好好笑我真的快要死掉
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嘴上說相信自己ㄉ夥伴實際上也真的相信然後押了100萬在翻車魚身上,可是還是好擔心這次也翻船,趕緊call out到處想找人救命,最後連Biyoo都裝睡把頻道切掉wwwwwwwwwwwww好好笑wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww最相信劉眾赫的人是金獨子但最不相信劉眾赫的人也是金獨子wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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the Breaking the Sky Sword Beauty這個稱號到底發生什麼事情了我的反應和讀者一樣!!!!!!!!!!!!What the hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(rofl)
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-259
[You are currently a participant of the Yoo Jonghyuk – Kim Dokja Industrial Complex.]
......
In any case, why was it the Yoo Jonghyuk – Kim Dokja Industrial Complex? Based on the order of the hangul flowchart, shouldn’t the name of the industrial complex be Kim Dokja – Yoo Jonghyuk Industrial Complex?
這個...是......攻受左右ㄉ問題ㄅ......(
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-262
職業玩家太外掛了ㄅ,難道眾要一穿七ㄇ...... 不過眾和獨強歸強,但想想從中期開始牽涉到星座和規則以後他們都蠻慘的,所以現在看了只會覺得夭壽終於爽了一把(幹)回想當初剛看還真以為是無腦外掛爽文
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-267
所以眾為了使劍果然可以性轉ㄅ......蛤......好萌 一定超正==(性轉狂魔大喜)
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-273
搭配估狗直譯所以平常就是憑著意思湊合著看,不是每次都看得懂在幹嘛(...),不過也就是說金獨子他的故事開始被記錄的意思......吧(thinking)好像很複雜又覺得應該沒那麼難懂,應該還是因為沒有中文翻譯ㄉ緣故......@@
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關於故事真的很玄,軼聞或傳說的本質都是故事,蒐集的故事越多,傳播越廣,劇情越澎湃,故事的力量也就越大
讀者先累積了五個傳說級的故事躍升成星座,然後在第73惡魔之國的這個應該是累積了更多逸事以後才使他的整段旅程都開始化為故事吧......(thinking)
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-274
「 This is the story of a reader.」
I ran towards Surya. In the trail of my run was the countless hours I spent alone reading. It was an ordinary life. I sat alone in a dark room and read Ways of Survival. On the bus after my part time job was over, in the army, in the classroom, on the subway home from work…
「 At the same time, it is the story of Dokja.」
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這是屬於金獨子的故事......是讀者卻不僅是個讀者......這個瞬間開始終於是自己生命中的主角......我可以這樣理解嗎......
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前面獨被嘲諷他用的都是別人的技能,那邊也很好看(?)呼應這段劇情的最後金獨子作為讀者書寫了自己的故事,他經歷了自己的冒險,用自己的力量找到了答案,身邊環繞著故事的做片,讓他想起身邊的人,然後身邊的人使他知道自己是誰......
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Secretive Plotter到底是什麼啊,tls123嗎................真ㄉ很想看中文翻譯啃機翻有夠痛扣而且閱讀速度好慢!!!
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■■......■■......■■■■■■......(■■■
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故事發展到這邊已經完全和滅活法初版不同了吧,每次看劇情都覺得這和一般的穿越小說實在差很多,果然不太能當爽文來看(應該說爽只有爽到前一百章)
還記得獨把STR灌到100打飛眾那邊我看了一直笑(幹
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剛才注意力被獨吸走但眾瀕死卻拒絕回歸的部分也...很好......他真的一直惦記著獨跟他說的話,獨抓著快死的眾哀求他不要走也很...........就很好...............(語彙力)不當CP也覺得很好,唉,你真的把獨子當夥伴ㄌ....................
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-277
“After the destruction of the world, I thought Dokja-ssi was happier. You laughed more often than before and seemed more vigorous… thus, you looked good. By the way…” Yoo Sangah bowed her head. “Dokja-ssi, why do you think this world is fiction?”
好犀利......一開始一直覺得劉尚雅很恐怖,但現在只覺得她好好......要不是眾實在太命定不然我會很希望獨能被她理解與拯救......(幹 不是BL好ㄇ
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中國和韓國的小說真的很愛那種對抗外國人的劇情wwwww每次都覺得那種愛國主義/祖國本位主義讓人很出戲 其實就連星座裡混雜了一堆韓國偉人傳說我也......不曉得該怎麼說,雖說本來就是韓國人寫的由韓國人為主角的以韓國為初始舞台的小說,不過還是會覺得...ㄛ......(結果只是自己知識量不足造成的疏離感就好笑了)
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好想知道獨的■■到底是什麼......感覺只是終章的話好無聊,而且他的反應感覺好像真的不是終章wwwwww
突然想到一直有個討論,關於故事「完結」之後,裡頭敘述的世界究竟會何去何從......只要抵達終章,那個世界就真的會結束了嗎 結束的話剩下的到底是什麼,會在不被故事這個載體束縛的狀態下繼續漂流,還是一切都會陷入虛空呢......
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如果說存在這件事本身必定將構成故事,到底該怎麼逃出這個框架啊wwwww還是說只要所謂的觀測者,也就是高維度的作者與讀者都消失,這一切就會有盡頭ㄋ......
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雖然這個說法也很怪啦!!!畢竟只要是具備觀測能力的東西都算是在驗證他者的存在與存在的方式(故事)......太難ㄌ......
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-283
才在思考■■的事情結果還真的同時具備完全相反的兩種解釋......是說目前的設定疑點幾乎都還沒解釋耶,包含真正的■■、牆的存在、世界的本質還有滅活法究竟是什麼以及作者是誰等等全部沒解明???(遲緩發現了這件事)
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-284
?????????????????????????????1...1863......?????????????
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Secretive Plotter的部分都蠻意料中的但是連平行世界都要管也太???????我???????你?????????????1863????????????????????(衝擊
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回歸...憂鬱症......1863......
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該死ㄉ劉眾赫到底贊助商是誰啊也是外神等級的嗎!!!!!該不會就是Selective Plotterㄅ!!!!!!!!!!!!!(自暴自棄開始亂猜)
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-296
Han Sooyoung ran and shouted, “A reader shouldn’t disturb me. The owner of the story is a writer! The world should end here!”
“You aren’t the owner of this story either. That type of ending is only in your world!”
齁......意味深長......
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-297
When my mother was locked up in prison, when I was bullied, when I sat the CSATs, when I went to the army and when I joined the company. It was the YooJonghyuk I had always been watching. The YooJonghyuk who was cold, calculating and never gave up.
I have lived watching such a YooJonghyuk. I could live because of him. Thus, I didn’t want to let him die.
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明明是很嚴肅的劇情但看著眾說分裂就分裂害我好出戲(媽啊
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-301
總算明白為什麼獨的愛稱會是烏賊wwwww(rofl)特別把訊息扭曲成那樣真的是很先進的遮蔽系統ㄋ (獨:幹
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漫畫的讀者表情好多好可愛……
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可愛 (怎麼插播
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(怎麼一直回去看漫畫
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是說一開始就提到46號主線任務了……剛剛重看才發現,剛好現在小說進度也是補到讀者回來然後進行46號任務之前
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比起臉很好看只想憐憫他,才3就一副快壞掉ㄉ樣子難怪1863完全崩潰機能毀滅(幹)
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-316
頭好痛 想放棄思考讓作者把答案餵食給我ㄌ 所以說牆不只是反映了持有者與世界之間的隔閡,也代表了世界(小說)的規則ㄇ......天使長的牆區分善惡,金獨子的牆就是區分虛實,可能最後要讓大家解脫的條件之一就是要把牆給消除......???
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其實雪一直讓我覺得蠻尷尬的,都說是眾某些輪次的情人但...描寫好少......==主要也是眾常常和獨分開行動所以沒辦法看到眾雪的相處,不過一直忍不住很壞的覺得靠北~硬說他們是情人是配種ㄇ~(ㄍ)
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今天幾乎沒什麼看ㄋ,想到還要一直重複這種瑣碎的劇情就......除了設定很吸引人以外,文筆真的...普......雖說要是文筆好的話我應該沒辦法靠機翻+自己的英文能力來讀這部小說啦(幹)
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雖然也才看一半好像不該一直講這種幹話就是了!!!不過目前支撐我往下看的就是想知道這個設定要怎麼發揮+結局會是怎樣+獨韓眾熙媛尚雅烏列爾最後能不能幸福(?),排除這些的話其實連其他隊伍中ㄉ配角也稱不上很在乎......@@
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李智慧明明殺掉自己的好朋友後來卻是傻包小朋友(幹抱歉)蠻讓我難以接受的,而且還真的沒什麼關於她的描寫,同理其他人也有這樣的問題......另外就是做任務的部分,前20次可能很有趣,但發展到最後變成星雲戰爭規模以後就是普通的外掛比拚ㄌ......找不太到一開始那種獨知道會發生什麼事所以先安排好某些配置的謀略(thinking) 或者該說反正作者ㄉ筆力就不夠(怎麼還是一直說這種引戰的話
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反正簡單來說就是劇情需要的角色太多ㄌ!!!!!然後為了凸顯世界的不合理性設置太多關卡把劇情弄得太複雜又太瑣碎了!!!!!!我看完金獨子公司集體對先知詐財ㄉ段落就笑累了,那邊應該是奧林匹斯篇最好看的地方了吧(媽的)
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後面的戰鬥整個就......雖然媽媽死ㄌ好像有點難過但反正我是無感啦(靠) 我連你開的外掛到底是三小都沒有概念根本醞釀不出「天啊她居然用了那ㄍ她這樣死定了QQ」的情緒只知道這是劇情殺......然後智慧ㄉ星座說升等就升等也很莫名其妙你們就是為了打這場仗才強行讓她升級!!!!!!!!!媽ㄚ怎麼可以寫ㄉ這麼(ry(我該閉嘴了
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-333
The Almighty Sun, Apollon. Just like the myths, he had a very handsome face. It was almost enough to slap Yoo Jonghyuk’s cheeks once… no, it would be twice.
劉先生已經完全變成外貌評價單位ㄌ,但還是要說到底可以甩劉眾赫兩巴掌程度ㄉ帥是怎樣,很帥很帥嗎!!!!!!!!!!!!
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-341
「 Bu t Kim Dok ja isn’t Yoo Jong hyuk. 」
......
On the other hand, I only had this one life. Therefore, this life didn’t allow me to make any mistakes.
If I made a mistake, someone would die. Thus, I couldn’t make any mistakes.
I had come all this way while taking the risk of twisting probability. Up to this point, I thought I had done well.
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每次都好期待崩潰但果然沒那麼容易,第四道牆太猛ㄌㄅ,彷彿人生只是一部小說,只要別看太重就能解決很多問題......(唉
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-342
Once the overall story was repaired, Aileen took a sip of water. I asked Aileen, “Is it okay if the fragments aren’t in context?”
I was anxious when I saw that the story fragments Aileen put together weren’t perfectly neat.
AIleen lightly wiped her lips. “It’s fine. This is what humans are like.”
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天啊......每次扯到媽媽我都好難過......拼湊故事碎片那邊的獨......我好痛苦......只有在這種時候才能真切感受到獨子的情緒......;( 不過說真的本來人就不會完全理解另一個人的全部,只是剛好她們母子錯過得比一般人更多吧
後面大家一起填補也...嗚嗚......
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I stroked Lee Gilyoung’s head for a long time and Lee Gilyoung looked up at me helplessly. Shin Yoosung, who was staring at the scene, grabbed my hand and placed it on her head.
I held the two children in my arms and told them, “I’m sorry.”
“…Yes? What for?”
“Just, for everything.”
我真的好難過......還是該說我好感動......我不知道...... (破碎
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你終於意識到自己離開了這些人很久......就像是你感受到他們開始有了你陌生的特質,他們也覺得你一直在離他們遠去......好寂寞 我快死了(幹)
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自信卻自卑,強大但脆弱,寂寞又笨拙的金獨子...... 我真ㄉ快死了好難過 不把一切當成故事他沒辦法坦然過下去吧 真正的金獨子大概......唉......我不想一直嘆氣可是除了嘆氣我沒什麼能做的了
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-349
[Handsome Kim Dokja!]
[9158 FOREVER]
I hoped that the party members wouldn’t look at them but Jung Heewon spoke to me.
“Dokja-ssi, are you an idol?”
好好笑wwwwww
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-Shin Yoosung ☆ Lee Gilyoung are the best!
I felt a strong force from Shin Yoosung holding my hand.
“Ahjussi, I feel terrible.”
“Why am I and Shin Yoosung…”
我wwww我要死wwwwww怎麼赤裸ㄉ在本人面前喊CPwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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-350
Once this screen came out, Uriel and the archangels of Eden screamed. The two people on the screen were me and Yoo Jonghyuk. It was the moment we threw a spear together at Ares.
The dokkaebi continued, [The third candidates are constellation ‘Demon King of Salvation’ and incarnation ‘Yoo Jonghyuk’!]
我快要笑死了wwwwwwww靠北啊wwwwwwwww烏列爾的尖叫聲隔著螢幕傳出來wwwwwwwwwwww
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“Eh, uh. I mean… thanks… for the award…”
The extremely nervous Shin Yoosung stared at me. Suddenly, Lee Gilyoung took the microphone. “I love Dokja hyung!”
“I love Ahjussi!”
“Kim Dokja’s Company is the best!”
The archangels clapped like the children were adorable. The children received the prize money and plaque and returned to their seats.
救命這是什麼混亂告白現場
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-362
[The story ‘Person Who is Loved by All’ has been acquired!]
沒錯啦 所有人都喜歡金獨子 (放棄思考
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很有趣耶,雖然原本就有預設可能會探討到關聯性與趣味性怎麼構成一個讓人信服的故事,不過沒想到真ㄉ會講(是怎樣)
難道獨......他是......正所謂他深愛著故事,所以故事也愛著他嗎
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果然臉會被扭曲就是第四面牆在阻止角色正確認知金獨子的存在嗎wwwww好好笑wwwwwwwwwwww該不會現在大家看獨子ㄉ臉會發現這人怎麼臉不歪了吧(ㄍ
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“Phenomena and truth aren’t the same. Using a story properly means understanding its language.”
“Solid ground is needed to leap into abstraction. That is the details of the stories you have built up.”
簡單來說就是要理解文意脈絡,然後藉由對細節的理解讓自己更深刻的體會故事吧......
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“Then don’t think of anything for five minutes.”
I nodded as if it was easy. Don’t think, don’t think…
Damn, I was thinking ‘don’t think’. I tried hard to escape my thoughts but it wasn’t easy.
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In five minutes, many things passed through my head. For example, the probability of Yoo Jonghyuk becoming a girl and killing the demon kings or Han Sooyoung suffering from an unknown delirium declaring, “I’m sorry for plagiarizing Kim Dokja at the time”…
I raised both hands and surrendered. “…I can’t do it.”
“You’re a fool.”
太會妄想怪東西了吧wwwww我也想知道獨想像ㄉ性轉眾是怎樣(好啦
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獨一直以來都只是機械式的在創造故事而已吧,充其量只是一種表演,得到了故事的外殼卻沒有獲得本質,當然用不出力量啦......趁這次來去鄉下住一晚總算可以好好沉澱自己順便整理一下被第四面牆擋下而一直以來都沒有好好處理ㄉ自己ㄉ事ㄌ (ㄏ
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第四面牆保他性命,某種程度上也隔絕了獨很多的情感,使他變得不像是人......所以說第四面牆到底是三小我怎麼又感覺第四面牆好像是多種東西的綜合體,是金獨子本人,是作者賦予的外掛技能,也是建立這個世界的基石......?我不知道啦什麼時候才能有答案!!!!
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‘Come with me.’
「 …To where? 」
I slowly opened my mouth and spoke. I wanted all my stories to reach ■■.
The story asked,「 What is at the end of the whole story? 」
‘I don’t know. Still, at least we won’t be alone.’
我......我好寂寞......(好了啦
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金獨子的獨是獨立的獨......是孤獨的獨......是讀者的讀......
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現在是怎樣,遇事不決就發布新ㄉ啟示ㄇwwwwwww怎麼又變成外掛小說了!!!!!!發布啟示一時爽一直發布一直爽!!!!!!!!!!!!!這樣概率/可能性沒問題嗎!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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-370/371
喔......太好看ㄌ......這才是我們想要的......(幹擅自代言所有ORV的獨者
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The wall that didn’t want to break no matter how many times he hit it suddenly developed a small hole on the side, and a hand popped out from this mysterious hole. That hand proceeded to lightly grasp Yu Joong-Hyeok’s head and then, slammed it right against the wall.
喔......我好喜歡尚雅 看到劉眾赫撞牆好爽(媽ㄉ
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⸢A lone existence is a being that doesn’t exist. Kim Dok-Ja was always alone. And that was why he was the only child (dokja/獨子), and the ‘Kim Dok-Ja’ didn’t exist.⸥
金獨子的獨是孤獨的獨......(重複發文
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實在太喜歡尚雅了,有主見善良溫柔又聰明......獨子在虛擬成真的世界可以有她作伴真的是太好了......劉尚雅是金獨子連結牆外與牆內、過去與未來、虛擬與真實的最佳夥伴......
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-372
As my vision grew wetter and blurrier, I could see Han Su-Yeong giggling away.
“Should I make one up for you, then? Mm…. What will sound nice on you, I wonder. How about ‘I Pass Out Too Often-Man’? Or, ‘Miraculous Piehole’…. Eh? H-hey, you are… crying?”
My face was reflected in her irises, her eyes widening in surprise.
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Actually, I wanted to ask her, an author.
As she was a writer, maybe she’d be able to tell me straight.
Tell me that I did good until now – whether I made the wrong choices or not, whether I would get to see the desired conclusion when I reach the end of this story or not.
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幹...天啊......我終於看到金獨子哭了......天啊......我以為我會很爽但我好難過......眼淚......是珍珠......獨子的眼淚......是鑽石...... (振作ㄛ
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努力啦 你哪次不努力 哪次做得不好!!!!天底下只有無腦鄉民還有劉眾赫會生你的氣啦!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(劉眾赫:==
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幹 2/15號是你的生日?????????????我怎麼感覺作者故意讓獨子在這天有了全新的體悟,面對了一直以來沒有解開的癥結,成為了一個新的人......birthday and rebirthday...... (跌倒
韓秀英趕緊翻出糖果給獨子吃也好可愛我快死掉ㄌ......秀英馬麻......(韓秀英:==
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密...................密謀.............................
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幹 我這樣是要怎麼睡ㄚ豈不是只能看下去了嗎!!!!!!!!!!!!!!世界的真相我來ㄌ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(說好調整作息......
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結果翻頁後又是無關緊要的劇情了(金獨子:==)
所以該不會那些神秘又超然的存在都是在故事中登場過ㄉ人......所以古夢可能是未來的劉眾赫(先猜1864????)然後tls123可能是韓秀英...............?????幹 時間迴圈?????????
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但本來這一切就都是一部小說啊所以故事會自圓其說(?)也是很正常的對吧 (怎麼亂用成語)
應該說就跟天能的概念一樣,會發生的注定會發生,未來是過去的延伸,過去也被逆向的未來干擾,一切早已安排好......是個完美的圓......命中注定......
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蛤......真的開始解密反而讓我不太想繼續......我只剩下180多章就能看完了......解密完這個故事就會結束了......我還想看更多他們的旅行和相處...... (大概最近20話的相處和描寫才比較讓人滿意 是否是因為獨終於意識到自己的問題並且去面對才比較好看
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-376
I finished preparing myself and opened my lips. “Older brother.”
Yu Joong-Hyeok’s expression crumpled into something unsightly.
– Hey, don’t make a face like that. This is the restriction of our current scenario. Do you think I’m enjoying this, either?
為何光天化日之下調情
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“Correction. She was supposed to be one. The throne was usurped on the first day of the wedding, however.”
Oh, I see. So, it’s that sort of development? I felt just a bit relieved now.
Han Su-Yeong and Yu Joong-Hyeok as a couple? <Kim Dok-Ja’s Company> hadn’t allowed any dating at the workplace yet, so hell no.
快要笑死
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-377
Someone here was still unhappy about my reading speed, however.
“You’re reading it way too quickly.”
“It’s you who’s slow, ‘older brother’.”
“What does it say?”
I didn’t reply right away.
你 你也只有這種時候可以囂張wwwwww(rofl)
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一想到金獨子雙眼閃亮的讀文本時劉眾赫也在旁邊就很好奇劉眾赫是否覺得這麼幼女的獨子很難得很惹人憐愛(10話以前ㄉ眾:我要殺了金獨子
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-380
⸢It‘d been better if I sacrificed myself instead.⸥
I turned my head to discover Yu Joong-Hyeok glaring at me as if I was a pathetic fool. His lips bobbed up and down several times, but then, squeezed his eyes shut as if to suppress his anger and leaned his back against the couch’s cushions.
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“What?”
Right in that next instant, fiery pain shot up from the back of my head.
“Hey, Kim Dok-Ja!”
I looked back to find a familiar grinning face waiting for me.
“Everything’s screwed up because of you!”
Han Su-Yeong brushed her hair lazily and sat upright, before smacking me in the head once more.
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唉......就很好......你怎ㄇ還不知道你對他們來說就是值得......(雖然要是知道了他也不是金獨子ㄌ
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Han Su-Yeong glanced at the corner of the room and spoke up. “Well, there is a monster in the world who had lived far longer than I have and chose not to forget a single thing, after all.”
She didn’t have to say who it was for me to know who she was referring to here.
嘴屁wwwwwwwwwww雖然眾真ㄉ是蠻怪的(幹怎這樣說人家
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作者和讀者討論怪劇情討論得太嗨結果被主角勒令閉嘴也太可愛(rofl)我快死掉了(rofl)
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-381
My mischievous streak reared its head and I raised my voice. “Oiii. You two kind of resemble a black bear and a newborn chick…..”
Almost at the same time, gigantic murderous intent flew in my direction.
“I’ll kill you.”
“One more word, and I’ll tear your mouth wide open.”
(酸臭西批廚大喜(幹
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秀英好可愛喔 雖然真的組CP很怪但又超想看為什ㄇ我們三個人不能一起(ry(腦中淨是些沒影養ㄉ東西
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She stared at me with disbelieving eyes. “But, it might be over three thousand chapters?”
“That’s probably right up my alley, then.”
“It might be boring, too.”
“It’s you writing it, so that’s not possible, you know.”
...... !!!!!!!!!!!!
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讀者和作者......TT真的是秀英寫的嗎......how......這個封閉迴圈......how......這時候真的覺得主角不愧主角ㄝ多活了幾百年果然比我聰明千萬倍怎麼想得到密謀是未來的讀(幹)
@hsuan579 - [全知讀者/獨+秀][381捏] 畫了很喜歡的一段劇情應該有在TOP10裡 改了...
哇咧大大怎麼畫了,好險有留字數趕快偷偷搬運來這樓(夭壽)
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-386
劉眾赫唯一拌嘴的對象是韓秀英......他們就很可愛...... 劉眾赫就算和金獨子講話也常常是神經病(幹)但跟韓秀英講話就變回國中生......韓秀英一直都是國中男生(靠北啊
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It was Yu Jung-Hyeok’s turn to ask this time. “Do you know something about the ‘Secretive Plotter’?”
“A really powerful Outer God, right?”
He formed a disappointed face for a bit before speaking in a convinced tone of voice. “…..I see that even if thousands of morons gather, they can’t become a single genius.”
“Wanna die?? Fine, you know who that is, then?”
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低能對話 好可愛 最後明明條件限縮ㄉ那麼小還可以說出完全不同的答案也是很反映個性wwwww突然覺得按照翻車魚就是翻車魚所以99.9%應該是猜不中ㄉ定論(幹)可以排除密謀是獨了吧......所以實際上密謀是眾然後古夢才是獨對吧 (破爛推理
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劉眾赫猜不準原理 (要消費人家到什麼時候 他才第三輪
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-387
The first person to raise her voice was Han Su-Yeong. “What the hell? How can you even think that? Does one’s intelligence get worse the more you regress?”
“Taken words right out of my mouth. To think that a so-called writer would cook up something so unpleasant.”
She and Yu Jung-Hyeok growled and glared at each other.
定睛一看這個應該是國小生吵架水平
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-388
怎麼大家都這麼喜歡八卦獨子的戀愛wwwwwww快兩百時來了一次檢測器現在是直接動用冥府徵信社wwwwwwwww(rofl)而且還硬要體貼他說不管你性向為何都可以大聲說出來喔~~~~~......作者到底期望寫出怎樣的東西 (褒
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-397
⸢….Even I start things without a plan sometimes. It’s not like I’ve calculated everything beforehand, you know.⸥
She summoned forth her courage like Kim Dok-Ja, and….
⸢You shouldn’t be wielding it like that.⸥
….And, swung her sword exactly like Yu Jung-Hyeok.
好喜歡熙媛...... 受到了很多挫折心中有很多憎恨與情緒但總是能夠將那些變成好的力量而不是破壞性質的發洩......
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賢成熙媛也真的好萌我不能呼吸 反正我猜最後賢成九成九沒有死(對) ㄅ過總體來說當坦/當裝的人(幹)真的頗吃虧,雖然劍盾已經互相綁死ㄌ但每次表現讓人印象深刻的都是負責輸出的劍wwwwww上一次覺得賢成好好已經是他耐住火焰給熙媛一個擁抱ㄉ時候ㄌ......變成劍甚至只讓我喔ㄌ一下(靠
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現在看到416ㄌ先整理一下中途的感想
雖然探討了善惡和龍都是惡役之類的問題頗有趣不過戰鬥一如往常好累,冥府夫妻&大聖的部分挺好看ㄉ不過......ㄣ......(好怕得罪粉絲)
後面看到謀也只覺得ㄛ我果然猜對ㄌ畢竟劉眾赫只要有什麼猜測基本上都會歪掉他就是隻翻車魚(幹
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第一時間腦內浮現ㄌ劉眾赫主題樂園(幹)所以是所有的眾組合成謀然後由1864作為主導個體這樣嗎XDDD 不過實際上在我腦中ㄉ畫面是↓
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(靠邀
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-424
暫停好久才繼續看......只是想說999變成包子也太靠北ㄌ,那個包子皮是什麼萃取了劉眾赫美顏成分的精華液嗎?????==
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ORV下一個周邊就是翻車魚面膜,萃取翻車魚最精華ㄉ表層膠原蛋白製作而成的保濕凝膠,上面印劉眾赫ㄉ臉,一定大賣(少靠邀)
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一直被手遊打斷讀書以及看小說的節奏(靠)還順便看了一下更新的漫畫
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知道真身以後謀有反應的地方都超好笑,硬要發送狀態讓獨知道你現在很爽wwwww靠北直接聽到獨稱讚自己果然很開心對吧 (rofl)
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漫畫的獨表情實在很多……不知道該說原作很精明ㄉ利用獨的第一人稱來隱藏他本身的問題,還是該說利用第一人稱省略了許多描述的功夫、還把不會塑造的部分全部怪給金獨子不是作者所以本來敘述功力也好不到哪只關注重點的態度(我真的會被粉絲殺死)
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請謀不要再隔岸觀火爽歪歪ㄌ(幹)
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唉……我當初小說看到這裡一直覺得金獨子只是看過原作才「理解」賢成的煩惱,不過現在回頭看這個理解也不算錯吧,他就是一直用讀者的視角在看待才有辦法那麼冷靜,他後期對於自己的某些行動也有產生動搖正是和他這時假掰的(ㄍ)漂亮話產生衝突……ㄣ……其實沒什麼想嘴的,這時這樣安慰是非常合理的,但對於金獨子當下說出這句話的心態我感覺有點微妙,卻也只能不置可否 (thinking)
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– Scenario Master: BTW, what’s up with the dumpling?
….Dumpling?
[You’re currently accompanied by your pet ‘Murim dumpling’.]
Dammit, I forgot that this guy was here with me.
包子的存在感超強!!!!!!!怎麼被系統判定成寵物!!!!!!!!!!!!!(rofl)
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這個劇本到底是誰,韓秀英寫的吧wwwwwww我要死wwwwwwwwwww(rofl)
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包子...大王...劉眾赫.....????????????(宇宙貓咪)
不愧是秀英 世界上只有秀英寫得出這種劇情ㄌ......
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999就是型男大主廚ㄚ(勿靠北)
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Eyebrows seemingly drawn by a single, uninterrupted stroke of a famed artist’s brush; a nose and a chin shaped in perfect angles that defied attempts to measure them through mere devices of men; a pair of deep eyes seemingly carved out of a beautiful jewel containing all the misfortunes found in this world.
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If someone saw those features and not get immediately drawn in by them, then there must be something wrong with that person.
哇靠真的太誇張了怎麼會用這種方式來寫劉眾赫有多帥wwwwwwwwwwwww(rofl)而且這不是韓秀英給ㄉ旁白而是金獨子自己說的wwwwwwwwww誇張wwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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-432
“Do the ones that can’t remember anything….” I stared straight at Yu Jung-Hyeok and replied. “….also forget about their sorrow, too?”
His eyes staring back at me trembled powerfully. I remained still as he continued to shiver. Was it because we had already reached the 94th scenario? His face was covered with quite a few scars now.
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天ㄚ 怎麼有辦法在這麼智障的西遊記改編中突如其來塞這種刀wwwwwww作為記得一切的劉眾赫聽這種話真的會死wwwww但老實說我完全感受不到金獨子有在隱藏自己的身分啊,你說了超多金獨子會說的話!!!!!!(rofl)
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-445
– I’d probably never get to understand certain things. I’d never even get close, and maybe, everything I did might be in vain. However, even if we know it’s impossible, we still have to read the Fable. That is what it means to exist as ‘Constellations’, as the stars of the heavens.
唉......即使無法真的完全理解,也不能停止去閱讀這件事,不會放棄......唉......
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天野月子 MV『聲』
幫ORV點播一首(music) (幹)
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目前是這樣ㄅ......如果古夢真的是獨的話最後應該會發生把圓圈繞回起點的地方,也會解釋tls123和韓秀英的部分......吧......???
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突然很擔心要是鬼怪那邊的人就是古夢然後整個系統都是古夢搞出來的怎麼辦wwwwww讀機翻已經很痛苦了還越來越複雜我快死wwwwwwwwwwwww
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讀者的責任......故事是作者與讀者一起完成的......
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會不會原本的金獨子在閱讀的過程中,本身的存在就是古夢......???所以當故事完結後,1863成為了謀,在世界上卻怎麼樣也找不到古夢,因為古夢不是故事內的外神,而是真正的「牆外之神」???????
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每個世界在回歸後也會繼續,剩下的殘渣會成為外神......ㄣ......是因為不會再被寫到所以就被拋棄了???那成為外神甚至有能力干涉主線劇情的條件到底是什麼啊????999烏列爾太強ㄌ害我不是很懂那個判定標準????所以是被排除了然後還得見證結局才能變成外神......ㄣ......????
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喔 ㄜ......好......????(不太確定自己畫了啥
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-454
大家的反應和我一模一樣lol 不過秀英真的很聰明耶直接要大家放棄思考當成小說理解,反正作者這種高維度的東西就是要這樣設定ㄚ身為低維度的人也不能怎麼辦......
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I was almost lured by the temptation to read the ‘final revised’ version of the ‘Ways of Survival’ several times, but in the end, I didn’t. I wasn’t sure why not, but then again I did have this hunch.
This gut feeling that, the moment I read the novel, I’d not be able to escape from its shackles.
我懂我懂,就跟先跑去算命以後反而會一直很在意算命預言的未來那樣......(嗯???
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靠夭啊wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww死亡後面那個括號問號也太機掰wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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本來還在笑翻車魚烤肉餵妹妹很好笑,結果後面看ㄌ金獨子的無能簡直要氣到哭(幹) 你這個心靈空虛沒有辦法正常融入社交ㄉ人......金獨子的獨是孤獨的獨......
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繼劉眾赫主題樂園之後接著推出ㄌ李賢成主題樂園(物理) 情侶套票和家庭套票很靠腰wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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