sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
i am sick of people being like 'oh its fine if the exarch dies bcuz we have g'raha' because u know.
Nancy Crawfish
oh yeah, I guess we do have two of the catboy...but like you say, a very different one, since he hasn't gone through all those experiences
Nancy Crawfish
incidentally wow this is some gorgeous art
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sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
it IS and i love it.
Nancy Crawfish
G'raha is a different person who has not yet made us sandwiches
𝑅𝒶𝒾𝓃𝒾𝒹𝑒𝑒𝓇 🦌
yeah... parallel timelines but that Raha is from a future you prevented. Raha still in the tower won't have any idea what's happened unless our Raha and bad end Raha merge.
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
So if we lose Exarch, we do lose somebody. It's like if somebody was like 'why are u sad about Minfilia we have Ryne'
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
(didn't use that example bcuz i have a close friend who's just up to ShB and doesn't know about ryne so being careful)
Nancy Crawfish
incidental admission: from the mysterious outfit and staff and dramatic name, I expected the Exarch to be all solemn and noble and cold, and then it turns out he's this sweetheart who makes you dinner and who nobody in the Crystarium has pressed on his past because look he's a nice guy and that would be rude
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
he is a soft catte, some bad ideas sometimes but he is a good boy who i do love
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
i just get sick of people comparing g'raha to exarch because like. the exarch is a sweetie but he has a lot of trauma.
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
he isn't the gremlin who'd just go along with nero 100% if he had the chance--
Nancy Crawfish
He's old and has been through a worldending plague, hasn't he?
Nancy Crawfish
(I've already forgotten a lot of ShB details and it's kinda complicated, in my defense, lol)
Nancy Crawfish
I don't know the fandom at all, really. Are people mad at him for being secretive? I know people are mad at Urianger. Which is weird to me, since the whole theme of ShB is about how even the good guys have to keep secrets. It ends with the WoL going shhh, even!
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
yup! woke up in the bad future, then went 100 years into the past of the first. and yeeeeah people want him to die and idek why. i think it's like 'he'll send y'all home asap and DEATH FLAAAAGS'
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
tho some people i swear its like 'emet died' (which i think was the best conclusion for his arc, freeing him from his burden finally) 'so kill the catte'
Nancy Crawfish
The writer seems to be very into that theme - didn't she also do the Bahamut raids where Louisoix has to keep becoming Phoenix secret so people don't worship him and summon him as a primal?
Nancy Crawfish
ahh, I can definitely see that it's possible they'll kill the Exarch, though I hope not. And they're not super gung-ho on killing people off.
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
yeah, they just were a bit trigger happy during 3.0. little bit.
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
but yes, wrote the coils and also wrote original CT. and, like... wasn't it part of CT that it was better to keep the tech sealed and secret until a time the world was worthy?
Nancy Crawfish
Yeah, much as I love Emet, he needed to go, not just because of being the expansion boss, but because having to let go and entrust the future and the memory of his people to these "lesser" people is a very good bittersweet end
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
ahhhhahaha their reply. that is NOT what they said.
Nancy Crawfish
oh shit it was! forgot about that
Nancy Crawfish
huh, interesting how attached people get to making a personality for their WoL. especially because this isn't a game where you get a whole lot of choice about what you do
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
exactly. that's what i'm saying.
Nancy Crawfish
You can't play a WoL who, say, doesn't give a shit about anybody or want to fight for them
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
the wol is an MMO protag.
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
and i have felt disconnected from some choices in-game.
Nancy Crawfish
yeah, it's quite often that the game doesn't let me say anything like what I actually want to, lol
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
yeeeeah.
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
that would have been good, yes.
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
but i am just TIRED of people acting like square could add all these choices without hella long patch cycles. i love how they've added more choices recently.
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
i dont wanna force people to cry over any character.
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
(plus you know. they still act like g'raha == exarch which again. huff huff.)
Nancy Crawfish
yeah, I wish we could have a ton of choices but that would just be a prohibitive amount of work
Nancy Crawfish
what do you mean, third choice option?
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
(and yeah haha i know the cw stuff >>;; )
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
(but yeah. bolormaa barely follows the storyline, but its not like im saying the devs are bad for how they're writing. most of the time. fuckin... i miss papalymo.)
Nancy Crawfish
ahhh, gotcha
Nancy Crawfish
yeah, I wanted to talk to both of them! Let me have a chatparty!
Nancy Crawfish
that'd work
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
I would have chosen a talk option, honestly.
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
i mean we all know that 3.0 had cut content, and i bet there's juicy cut content in 5.0. and 4.0 as well.
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
not everything is perfect BUT the main point is that i love g'raha tia and i don't like the exarch as much
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
A lot of filling in the gaps.
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
(and don't get me started with exarch stans who act like their uwu baby is the canon one or this will become another salt plurk--)
MNK Zoomies
I like Exarch and G'raha one and the same (Though I think Exarch has an unfair advantage of having more screentime/development), but I am also fine with Exarch pulling off the big sacrifice or whatever because that is what he was going and wanted to do in the first place
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
im glad that fight ended in acceptance. i have had much more grumpy twitter fights.
MNK Zoomies
and since the future had changed by now he is sort of this weird walking paradox now too
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
i do want more info on how time travel works, how tycoon did it
MNK Zoomies
...I'm still very confuse what tycoon exactly is tbh
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
alexander caused a time loop
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
and tycoon is ironworks trying to make their own alexander with knowledge from omega as well
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
and also a sick ff5 reference in the name
MNK Zoomies
yeah I wasn't 100% sure if it was purely manmade or there was a little bit of actual primal shenanigans in there
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
hm. that's a good question, actually. for what is a primal if not something everybody believed in?
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
(i-i dont think tycoon is a primal)
MNK Zoomies
I would sort of guess Lyna would take over maybe
MNK Zoomies
but yeah idk
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
yeah, lyna would be in control... but if hes right and the tower vanishes if he does, that would be a disaster
MNK Zoomies
(also where was the cut content info for 3.0? o: )
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
and since, like, this is the end of the shadowbringers story, we wouldnt have time for that.
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
ah! well! its not shown, BUT in character data stored, theres copies of the heavens ward, and the ascian duo, which is never called and in places with dialogue dummied out.
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
so we can theorise where cut scenes were.
MNK Zoomies
oho~
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
dialogue has special files if its voiced, and some of them are just. empty.
sʜsʟ ɪᴠᴀʟɪᴄᴇ
thats where we get lahas face from, anyhow
Nancy Crawfish
All I know about the time travel thing is the short story says Cid and Nero worked together to make it and drank a toast when they did, and I love that so much
Lampy
I did not know about dummied dialogue possibly being a thing, oooh
Lampy
that said, yeah, I think the writers have kind of put themselves in this funny corner where they've put sufficient effort into making the WoL feel 'yours', that the moment they stumble and don't give exactly the option that one might personally want to give in a dialogue prompt, we're all ?!?!?!?
Lampy
I've felt it too!
Lampy
(when I realized this, it impacted how I played/saw my own WoL, in that yeah I get a lot of say-so in who they are, but there's a base foundation there. Which has made it more interesting to me in a way?)
Lampy
at any rate, I'm now at the meta level of being concerned for the crystal cat. Are they gonna follow through on their theme of "don't fucking hurry to sacrifice yourself" or are they going to tie up the loose ends in the name of emotional impact?
Lampy
I'm at the edge of my seat, here
Many Birds
I… from a practical viewpoint, can you put all that in there. which is a weird tension from how I think… some of the original messaging was meant to be but
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