Luke Skywanker
Ok, I'll say it.

I think it's great that people are excited about a new Pike show. But there's a part of me that can't help but weigh this against the TORRENT of hate I see every day towards Discovery and Michael and shake my head at humans.

*yes you can be excited about the new show without being a racist I'm just talking about the big picture
Luke Skywanker
I will watch it and I think it'll be great
Luke Skywanker
just.... annoyed that there's this part of me that feels Pike was a bone thrown to the people who thought there weren't enough white people
Luke Skywanker
and I will admit part of that perception is based on the number of posts on various Trek communities that bash everything about disco EXCEPT Pike
Luke Skywanker
ugh and I hesitate to even bring it up so maybe I'm reading too much into it only... IDK
Luke Skywanker
I will say it again, I think it's great! it'll be fun! this isn't me being anti-Pike show!
skipthedemon
I....enjoyed Pike more than anything else last season. And I really thought the first season was pretty strong? I like what Sonequa Martin-Green is doing with what she's been given fine, I just did not like swaths of last season. :-/
Luke Skywanker
it just FEELS like a concession given what we're still seeing re: Michael and the rest IDK
skipthedemon
That said I'm not sure we really need a Pike show.
Luke Skywanker
I actually haven't enjoyed anything about Disco except the casting BUT that's another matter
skipthedemon
Fair enough!
Luke Skywanker
When the chief complaint you hear about the show is DIVERSITY this seems like a calculated move
Luke Skywanker
maybe it's a coincidence that the three leafs are all white
Luke Skywanker
*leads
skipthedemon
Oh. I hadn't actually looked at anything about the Pike show yet. Urk.
Luke Skywanker
And I'm deffo not saying "if Pike's your guy you're a bigot" I'm saying this is a systemic thing. Pike's probably your guy because they brought a hot white dude in to be the voice of everything we've gone to love from Star Trek.
Luke Skywanker
IDK if that's a coincidence, either
Luke Skywanker
so the problem isn't that people like Pike. The problem for me is that the PTB are giving in to pressure to whiten the franchise,I guess.
Luke Skywanker
curagas: I have such mixed feelings about that. I hate that it's section 31 and I hate that it's the mirror version
Luke Skywanker
I'm just saying it was suspicious to me that Pike walked in saying all the right stuff about the federation I've personally been missing
space witch
I fucking looooove Discovery. I know people are down on it for being too dark but I haven't seen Michael hate. 😭
space witch
I'm also so very here for Mirror Georgiou, she's amazing.
Luke Skywanker
y u p
Luke Skywanker
oh yeah for sure
Luke Skywanker
Yuuup I can say it as nuanced as I am able and I still get "give it a chance, you don't know it's not diverse!"
Luke Skywanker
Dude I am not saying it's not diverse or that I'm not going to enjoy it.
Luke Skywanker
I'm saying that this is messaging we should be aware of
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