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character hook spinoff plurk to stop clogging up Eric's plurk with it
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probably not gonna make a Verse with this just some neurons firing
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Some sort of anime fightpowers type setting. Using ninjas as an example but it could work with any kind of powers
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You have two characters, who I'll call A-ko and B-ko
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A-ko is a born genius, overflowing with talent
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she can learn any technique, sometimes just after seeing it used once
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nothing comes hard for her
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she knows 100 techniques
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every one she learned in a day or less, just from observation and instinct
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B-ko is a born loser with no talent for any of this shit
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she sucks at ninja techniques, just has no head for them
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physically not very strong either
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every technique she learns, she learns by practicing for weeks or more, burning every movement into her shitty brain at great length
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she knows... let's say 20 techniques
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a fifth as many, for five times the effort
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they are rivals. Or at least, B-ko considers A-ko her rival. A-ko considers B-ko beneath her concern, probably
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until they fight
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and even though A-ko knows every move B-ko knows
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B-ko knows them better
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because she spent so much time with each one
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she knows every edge case, every strange detail, every quirk of movement and how they react in different situations
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from her months and months of brutal training
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A-ko just knows how to do them right
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so, against all odds
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they end up as exactly evenly matched
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A-ko spent her time either brooding or living the good life depending on her personality
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probably a bit of both
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getting embroiled in ninja politics as the fucking chosen one or whatever
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while nobody is paying attention to B-ko
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as she just
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tries
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constantly
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Give A-ko a rabbit theme and B-ko a tortoise theme
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hahaha
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that's good
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Okay so
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Here's a question
sailor bii
This is because A-ko's parents are Superman and Wonder Woman, isn't it?
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Plot arc 1: A-ko the super prodigy, is super surprised when she can't beat B-ko the loser because B-ko has put a million hours of effort in
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Why isn't Plot arc 2 "A-ko puts a bit of effort in and curbstomps B-ko"
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that's always the problem with that kind of setup, isn't it
sailor bii
sorry i'm showing my age and actually picturing A-ko and B-ko from Project A-ko in these roles
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I think it's pride and mentality
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I'm picturing the shadow girls from Utena
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A-ko first off doesn't have the mindset and patience to put in that kind of time
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and also it doesn't even occur to her that the solution IS just working really hard for a long time
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instead she goes and seeks out more unfair techniques and advantages
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Plot arc 2 is A-ko just raging a lot because SHE MUST HAVE CHEATED
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and then going to unseal forbidden demon arts
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surely she can handle them
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i dig that, a-ko just
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C-kun like "Okay you proved your point B-ko, maybe you can take a break now!"
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B-ko: "AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-no"
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"the fuck's a break"
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
'okay so maybe THIS move will be the ultra super sure-kill beat b-ko technique'
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and comes back later with like fifty more new moves
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B-ko doesn't have any more moves
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she just got even better at the 20 she has
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while b-ko has, like, two new ones and more practice in the old ones
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So A-ko is in a self-destructive tragedy
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maybe a bit catra-esque
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yeah
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she can't win because she thinks she can't lose
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As she squanders every advantage she has out of petty pride and lashes out at all her allies
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
steeples fingers.
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
so.
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
when do a-ko and b-ko kiss
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and then they kiss-- yeah
Princess Emily
I mean, presumably once B-ko and A-ko are evenly matched, A-ko practicing isn't going to make her magically better than B-ko anyway. She'd still need just as much practice to learn everything B-ko knows that comes only from practice, which B-ko is ahead of her on, AND she'd have to try and do it with 5 times as many techniques
RobotApocalypse
i'd say A-ko just doesn't know how to put in the effort to study something diligently because she's never had to do it before
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a bit of both of those
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working hard is a skill
RobotApocalypse
the same way kids who are just really smart coast through high school and then get to college and drown because they have no idea how to study
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
i immediately have ideas for a-ko as a character
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exactly what I was IN THE MIDDLE OF TYPING
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we're all on the same wavelength
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because yeah she's just
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it's amazing
Princess Emily
either way the Plot Arc 2 described above wouldn't come about that way
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
a-ko is currently halfway through gifted child burnout
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in the 'how can i possibly not be the best' phase
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Shit I suddenly care about A-ko
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she only has one tool in her toolset and it's "effortlessly pick up new abilities"
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but suddenly she's in a world
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where that's not enough
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
lemme just
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slide on in here with my a-ko concepts
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A-ko is deffos my type of character but I basically already made her as an OC twice so
Princess Emily
hannah can have this one
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I guess that leaves me with B-ko
RobotApocalypse
"you mean you just do a thing over and over and over again after you already know how to do it right? why?"
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as was suggested earlier, her parents are basically superman and wonder woman. she is constantly under intense pressure to not only live up to them but surpass them, as is the way of ninjas. and she was managing it! she was doing super well and was effortlessly the best at everything!
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I think my designated role in this kind of situation is C-kun
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and then suddenly she can't beat a loser and now she's under constant scrutiny and people are suspecting maybe she's faking it, maybe she's a cheater, maybe she's not really as good as she says.
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We have our Naruto and our Sasuke Rock Lee
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so she's not only got Gifted Burnout but also she's lost almost all of her status and friends and everything she had going for her in one swoop.
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We need a Sakura
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I think I mangled that analogy a bit but you get my point
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more talented than B-ko but less than A-ko, more hardworking than A-ko but less than B-ko
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friend to both
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More of a support-y role?
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-?
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for B-ko I think like
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- Hot-blooded shouty idiot
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- But Also Low-Key Depression
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- Stronger than A-ko in pure muscle mass just because she works out more
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Are we actually going with Ninjas?
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I don't know
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I vote not but I'm not sure what to replace Ninjas with
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Ninjas was my first thought because I was complaining about boruto's dad earlier
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what if it's like
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K6BD-style Magical Kung Fu
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but less over the top
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instead of trying to learn a Forbidden Jutsu you try to learn Ki Rata
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Perfect
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I know next to nothing about K6BD to contribute
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the difference between Magic Ninjas and Magic Karatemans is slight
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but you know there's one more character you're missing to round out the cast,
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Kakashi?
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yes
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We've kinda mashed Naruto and Sasuke together
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right, you've got narusuke, rock lee, and saku-c-kun, so it's not quite the same, but you still
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need the teacher
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though how to make a twist on that is, hmm
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What if
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i feel like the twist is a-ko and b-ko don't actually have the same teacher at first
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The teacher got lucky once and beat a supposedly unbeatable foe
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And as a result is viewed as like a mega badass genius
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Worthy of teaching the rising star A-ko
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And they're just like mentally screaming because they are an exhausted millenial who is making everything up as they go along?
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ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ : i'm offering to make an oc here, but if somebody else wants to play a SECOND teacher,,,,
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I kind of like the idea of like
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>A-ko has the cool teacher
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>B-ko has some generic teacher
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>Arc 1 happens
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>B-ko beats A-ko in a high profile test match
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>A-ko has a hate spiral meltdown
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>B-ko is assigned to cool teacher along with A-ko
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As a metaphorical Get Along Shirt
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I like that :|a
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where does a possible c-kun fit in,,,,,,,
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I gotta figure out C-kun's deal to figure out how he fits in
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i like it, and also
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a-ko is absolutely terrified that she's going to get dropped down to generic teacher
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like 'b-ko is TAKING MY PLACE'
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cool teacher: "Generi-kun is highly respected, honestly...."
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cool teacher: "Sorry 'bout this Generi-kun..."
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Generisensei is a fine teacher
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he's just not a war hero descended from kings or whatever
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
so i don't k6bd, but to my understanding, there is actually minimal difference between martial artists in that and ninjas in naruto, just
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through martial prowess you can do Literal Magic
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Naw magic is a specific thing in K6BD but like we're not beholden to that because this is OUR thing
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yeah martial arts and magic are super the same here
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it's anime, every class is a fightermage
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I'm imagining
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More or less the aesthetic of Naruto
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But without everyone shouting NINJAS all the time
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We're just generic magical fightmen
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honestly not far off
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and less kunai
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yeah
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so ok I failed to not make a new verse so
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what's the context for these people fighting
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what are we training for
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Needs a badguy
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
needs more than just A Badguy, singular, if we have like a whole village of fightmages
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monsters would be the easiest solution
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nothing intelligent, just strong and sometimes big
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Maybe we're on the edge of the site of an ancient battle
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And there's like
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fucked up magic out there that causes monsters to come sometimes
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and we're like the border fortress
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if that's the case then the one fortress town would be the only place needing fightmans
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Unless the world is scarred with a bunch of cursed battlefields
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consider
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I dunno I'm just thinking out loud
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only one cursed battlefield, but the ancient war that caused the shit still has like
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
priceless, obscenely powerful magical artifacts out there
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it's possible there only IS the one fightman temple city
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ok so wait hold on I got... idea,
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so sometimes, other countries will send out their own people to try to either conquer Fightman City or just sneak in and rob the battlefield
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one that can work with hannah's too
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which would either way rile up monsters
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what if this big cursed battlefield isn't just ONE battlefield, but an entire huge area where there was a big magic war
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so all the countries around it have their own bases to guard against monsters coming from it
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and because it's so big, they still slip by sometimes, so you also gotta head out and save a village sometimes
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then on top of that, you got competition between countries to go out and get magic artifacts
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or contest salvaging rights
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the idea that it's the site of an ancient magic war creates another opportunity:
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the monsters are manifested shades of those who fought in the war, distorted by time and magic
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meaning that they
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ALSO know magic kung fu
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
yes.
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shit ye
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
and the older and more powerful they are, the less human their appearance.
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which means.
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not only are they doing magic kung-fu, but they're doing it as six-armed bears with giant horns and shit.
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If we're going by genre convention
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then the most powerful of them look MORE human
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I was gonna say
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Grand Fisher vs Aizen
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the strongest ones are absolutely people-shaped
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people-shaped doesn't necessarily mean fully people-looking though
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sure sure
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yeah
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but there should also absolutely be really powerful huge giant ones, like the tailed beasts? but the better your magic kung-fu the more people-y you are
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there's a curve
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weak: people-shaped mindless shades
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strong: towering death monsters with who knows how many limbs
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strongest: people-shaped evil kung fu masters
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that's the good shit
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The strongest might have, like
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weird eyes, or scales, or tails, or some shit
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but they're overall human shaped
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Wait shit shit shit
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I have an OLD ass setting that I am going to steal something for for this
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Let me lay some lore on you all and then tell me what you think:
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Once upon a time there was a continent spanning empire that had incredible magitech bullshit and lived in a golden age
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but the magic they used was cursed by the emperor's twin brother who died fighting for the throne
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And the curse drove everyone who used this ancient super magic mad
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To the point the the emperor cast a spell that turned everyone within like a hundred miles of the capital into cursed undead spirits who now guard the ruins of the necropolis
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And the survivors are all the barons and dukes and shit who are now their own kingdoms
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Who have to defend themselves against the cursed land with anime fightmen but also seek to find the incredible magic relics left behind from the golden age
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What do you think?
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I DO like the idea of a big necropolis as the center
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I'm unclear on what it means for barons and dukes to be their own kingdom
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I mean they used to be part of the big empire
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just that their territories became kingdoms after the fall of the empire's capital
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but with the central authority turned into evil cursed land
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They were just like "well there's no emperor so I'm in charge now."
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ah
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This adds a bonus mechanic of like
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We still know how to use ancient supermagic
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but if you use it you start to go insane because it's cursed
Princess Emily
those would be forbidden techniques
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they are ACTUALLY forbidden for a reason
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UNLIKE NARUTO /stares in Kishimoto's direction
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forbidden because people used to use those techniques
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in some of those places life still exists
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I think in the canon I pulled all this shit from it was specifically cursed in that if you used it you were plagued by jealous delusions and started to turn against everyone around you so like
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If we go with that then it'd be SUPER thematic for A-ko
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Ultimately A-ko is a good guy though, right?
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Is she?
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it definitely sounded like
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She just has to actually learn some lessons and be held accountable for her actions
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
she's a good person underneath like
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ten thousand layers of superiority-then-inferiority complex, constant pressure from all sides, impostor syndrome out the ass, crushing expectations, etc
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i'll make a plurk about teacher-chan once FFAV wraps up for tonight
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I gotta figure out C-kun's deal
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